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At 11/16/07 06:33 PM, JerkClock wrote: Personally, I think instead they should grind their fishermen to death(Show them what it feels like) and leave our citizens who protest cruelty to dolphins alone.

i thinkyou sould go suck a fucking dick for wanting to kill humans because of what they did to animals WHILE THEY WERE ALREADY FUCKING DEAD.

seriously, i think we sould grind you and beat you mercauslessly and piss on your dead corspes you fucking idiot.

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also, those fishermen you suggerst grinding up probebly have fucking familys that love and care about them, and the fucking fish only have memeroy spans of 5 minutes.

everytime you make a post jerkclock i'll remember this one.

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Hehehe, good old Japan.

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At 11/17/07 07:58 AM, homor wrote: you're the reason the animal rights movment is failing, because people like you lie thru your teeth, (like the people saying milk causes pimpels to get people to stop drinking milk) and defend people doing stupid and crazy things just so you can say you helped some stupid ugly fish.

I don't see how not wanting the poor dolphins to get shredded to death, and attempting to free them is stupid or crazy.

but when it comes to other humans you insult them and treat them like scum of the earth.

You presupposition here is unsubstantiated and erroneous. Perhaps you wish to describe the reasoning(if there's any) behind this statement.

plus those fishermen were killing tons of other fish,

And shredding them to death as well is also wrong.

i would say go to hell, but you've already made life into its own personal hell by being a dumbass.

THis unsubstantiated presupposition is erroneous.

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You guys are all idiots.

Just reading your idiotic thoughts make me want to vomit.

Especially the ones defending a certain side, what are you guys even trying to do ...
Can't you be neutral?

It's not like you'd have to choose between USA or Japan, morons.
So don't come up with faggy arguments like "Go tsunami" or anything stupid like that.

Fuckfaces.

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gookz

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At 11/16/07 05:50 PM, KingPaulP wrote: Quite obviously another idiotic noob, preaching left agendas such as whale saving in one hand then fire and brimstone in the other.

More like an obvious troll...

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At 11/17/07 08:03 AM, homor wrote:
i thinkyou sould go suck a fucking dick for wanting to kill humans because of what they did to animals WHILE THEY WERE ALREADY FUCKING DEAD.

What you think is irrelevant. Besides, it's not like they aren't still doing this shit. Asian countries are the worst offenders when it comes to torturing animals for food. They way the kill animals that they eat is inexcusable.

seriously, i think we sould grind you and beat you mercauslessly and piss on your dead corspes you fucking idiot.

This unsubstantiated presupposition is erroneous.

also, those fishermen you suggerst grinding up probebly have fucking familys that love and care about them,

That's irrelevant to whether or not what they do to the fish is wrong.

and the fucking fish only have memeroy spans of 5 minutes.

That's not true, it's an urban legend. Marine biologists would tell you otherwise.

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At 11/17/07 10:41 AM, JerkClock wrote:

At 11/17/07 07:58 AM, homor wrote: you're the reason the animal rights movment is failing, because people like you lie thru your teeth, (like the people saying milk causes pimpels to get people to stop drinking milk) and defend people doing stupid and crazy things just so you can say you helped some stupid ugly fish.

I don't see how not wanting the poor dolphins to get shredded to death, and attempting to free them is stupid or crazy.

you're puting words in my mouth, and they don't get shredded you retard, they're long dead when that hapens.

plus they were only trying to save the cute dolphins, not the other fish, whitch is stupid.

but when it comes to other humans you insult them and treat them like scum of the earth.

You presupposition here is unsubstantiated and erroneous. Perhaps you wish to describe the reasoning(if there's any) behind this statement.

he insulted an entire fucking country you fucking idiot.

plus those fishermen were killing tons of other fish,

And shredding them to death as well is also wrong.

no one was protesting to save them.

and for the second fucking time in a row they aren't shreded to death you fucking idiot,.

i would say go to hell, but you've already made life into its own personal hell by being a dumbass.

THis unsubstantiated presupposition is erroneous.

let me explain:

you're a fucking idiot, making life harder for you, because you do stupid things.

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At 11/16/07 05:47 PM, AshfordPride wrote:

At 11/16/07 05:46 PM, DeadSun wrote: Japan is our bitch. they owe it to us.

Well, you're an idiot. Not arguing with ya. It'd be a moot struggle.

Indeed. By that logic, we'd be Osama's bitch.

And I don't wanna have to groom that greasy beard of his.

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At 11/17/07 10:51 AM, JerkClock wrote:

At 11/17/07 08:03 AM, homor wrote:
i thinkyou sould go suck a fucking dick for wanting to kill humans because of what they did to animals WHILE THEY WERE ALREADY FUCKING DEAD.

What you think is irrelevant.

no it isn't, you're just pulling that out of your asshole to make yourself look better.

Besides, it's not like they aren't still doing this shit. Asian countries are the worst offenders when it comes to torturing animals for food. They way the kill animals that they eat is inexcusable.

and now you start insulting asain leaders and goverments and cultures.

nice.

seriously, i think we sould grind you and beat you mercauslessly and piss on your dead corspes you fucking idiot.

This unsubstantiated presupposition is erroneous.

you're like a broken record, when you have nothing better to say and have no way to win an arguement you pull that stupid "This unsubstantiated presupposition is erroneous."

im willing to bet you don't even know what you're saying, but you act like you do to look cool.

also, those fishermen you suggerst grinding up probebly have fucking familys that love and care about them,

That's irrelevant to whether or not what they do to the fish is wrong.

but it is relevent to te fact that you said we should shred them to death for killing a few fish AND THEN shreding them.

and the fucking fish only have memeroy spans of 5 minutes.

That's not true, it's an urban legend. Marine biologists would tell you otherwise.

well, you got me there at the very least.

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At 11/16/07 05:46 PM, DeadSun wrote: we sent two atomic bombs over there

You weren't there. You did nothing. Stop taking credit/responsibility for the actions of others.

and we can send a modern nuclear bomb over there again.

That won't happen.

Japan is our bitch. they owe it to us.

Most of your technology comes from Japan. They owe you nothing.

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At 11/17/07 10:52 AM, homor wrote:

you're puting words in my mouth,

This is an unsubstantiated claim, and it is erroneous. Not unexpected, considering that you lack a logical argument.

and they don't get shredded you retard, they're long dead when that hapens.

Perhaps you would like to submit proof of this being the case? It's rather common knowledge that they do not kill the dolphins before grinding them up. Substantiate you claims for a change, if you are capable.

plus they were only trying to save the cute dolphins, not the other fish, whitch is stupid.

That's irrelevant to whether or not the actions of the fisherman were wrong.

but when it comes to other humans you insult them and treat them like scum of the earth.

See here's your problem. Torturing a heartless bastard who mercilessly grinds up innocent animals is not the same as torturing innocent animals. That fact that you lack the intelligence to understand that is not unexpected, considering that you lack a logical argument.

he insulted an entire fucking country

That does not mean that he treats human beings like shit as you claimed. You still fail.

you fucking idiot.

This unsubstantiated presupposition is erroneous.

no one was protesting to save them.

That is irrelevant to whether or not the action was wrong.

and for the second fucking time in a row they aren't shreded to death you fucking idiot,.

Substantiate your claim then. Argumentum Ad Nauseum does not make your argument valid.

you're a fucking idiot,

This unsubstantiated presupposition is erroneous.

making life harder for you, because you do stupid things.

This unsubstantiated presupposition is erroneous.

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At 11/16/07 05:41 PM, DeadSun wrote: well....this makes it offical for me....japan sucks.

Because they uphold the law. You're hardcore now kid!

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At 11/17/07 10:59 AM, homor wrote:

no it isn't, you're just pulling that out of your asshole to make yourself look better.

So you're telling me that your thoughts, effect the factual nature of this world? Somehow I doubt anyone buys that, but this is not unexpected, considering that you lack a logical argument.

and now you start insulting asain leaders and goverments and cultures.

The fact that Asian countries grind and cook animals to death as if it is nothing is a fact. Whether or not stating so insults them is irrelevant.

nice.

Thank you for agreeing that I had a nice argument.

you're like a broken record, when you have nothing better to say and have no way to win an arguement you pull that stupid "This unsubstantiated presupposition is erroneous."

You are erroneously presupposing that your untrue personal attacks amounted to winning, which they did not. In fact, they were not only irrelevant, but also proved nothing other than that you can not handle a debate without throwing a shit fit. None of this is surprising, considering that you lack a logical argument.

im willing to bet you don't even know what you're saying, but you act like you do to look cool.

This unsubstantiated presupposition is erroneous.

but it is relevent to te fact that you said we should shred them to death

No it isn't. Whether they deserve a gruesome death is unnaffected by whether they have families.

for killing a few fish AND THEN shreding them.

Again you have not substantiated this erroneous claim of yours that they kill the fish before shredding them. This is pretty expected by now, considering that you lack a logical argument.

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At 11/17/07 11:02 AM, JerkClock wrote:

At 11/17/07 10:52 AM, homor wrote:

you're puting words in my mouth,

This is an unsubstantiated claim, and it is erroneous. Not unexpected, considering that you lack a logical argument.

i like how you say i don't have logic, but you don't even try to back it up.

and they don't get shredded you retard, they're long dead when that hapens.

Perhaps you would like to submit proof of this being the case?

its common fucking sence that a fishermen would kill a fish first before grinding it up.

It's rather common knowledge that they do not kill the dolphins before grinding them up. Substantiate

now think about this for a minute:

you're fishing, you catch a fish, would you keep and sherder near by?
would you try and throw the fish in the sherder fast?
would you put up with the fish struggleing?
at the very least, would you feel no guilt?
fucking shit man, just think about it for afew seconds

you claims for a change, if you are capable.

i'd like to see you post a link to where you got your whole "they grind fish alive!!!!!" from.

oh, and they site cannot be owned by a member of peta or someone with the animal rights movment, it has to be completely unbiased and it has to be relieble, and no, it can't be wikipedia.

plus they were only trying to save the cute dolphins, not the other fish, whitch is stupid.

That's irrelevant to whether or not the actions of the fisherman were wrong.

is you best debate strategie repeating youself?

but when it comes to other humans you insult them and treat them like scum of the earth.

heartless bastard who

stop it right there.

so you think that killing someone in an awful way is ok if they did it to a fish?

besides, i still don't belive that they grind up fish alive, but even if they did there is absolutely they should be killed, besides, the grinded up fish carcass is used to feed hungry children and people.

he insulted an entire fucking country

That does not mean that he treats human beings like shit as you claimed. You still fail.

hes insult an entire race because of what a few fishermen may or may not of done to a fish.

thats treating humans bad.

you fucking idiot.

This unsubstantiated presupposition is erroneous.

is that all you can fucking say? do you think saying that makes you look smart? repeating youself does not make you look smart, espacily when its something as meaningless and pointless as that.

no one was protesting to save them.

That is irrelevant to whether or not the action was wrong.

ugh.

its like talking to a 4 year old.

and for the second fucking time in a row they aren't shreded to death you fucking idiot,.

Substantiate your claim then. Argumentum Ad Nauseum does not make your argument valid.

use common sense.

Substantiated.

This unsubstantiated presupposition is erroneous.
This unsubstantiated presupposition is erroneous.

you know what? im not taking that shit anymore, im deleteing anything from you along the lines of

"This unsubstantiated presupposition is erroneous."
"thats irrelevent"
"thats illogical"

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At 11/17/07 11:24 AM, JerkClock wrote:

At 11/17/07 10:59 AM, homor wrote:

no it isn't, you're just pulling that out of your asshole to make yourself look better.

So you're telling me that your thoughts, effect the factual nature of this world?

what the fuck are you talking about? i 've never said that.

stop fucking shoveing words down my thorat.

and now you start insulting asain leaders and goverments and cultures.

The fact that Asian countries grind and cook animals to death as if it is nothing is a fact. Whether or not stating so insults them is irrelevant.

*sigh* how many times will i have to go over this with you?

THEY DON'T GRIND THEM ALIVE.

you're like a broken record, when you have nothing better to say and have no way to win an arguement you pull that stupid "This unsubstantiated presupposition is erroneous."

You are erroneously presupposing that your untrue personal attacks amounted to winning, which they did not. In fact, they were not only irrelevant, but also proved nothing other than that you can not handle a debate without throwing a shit fit. None of this is surprising, considering that you lack a logical argument.

m, i was wrong to say that then, still, its not only annoying but uneeded.

if it will get you stop saying that moronic slack jawed saying over andover i won't uise personal attacks.

but it is relevent to te fact that you said we should shred them to death

No it isn't. Whether they deserve a gruesome death is unnaffected by whether they have families.

a fishs family won't miss them.

a human family will miss them forever.

for killing a few fish AND THEN shreding them.

Again you have not substantiated this erroneous claim of yours that they kill the fish before shredding them.

COMMON SENSE IS COOL!

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At 11/17/07 11:24 AM, homor wrote:

i like how you say i don't have logic, but you don't even try to back it up.

You have demonstrated it yourself with you multiple fallacies, and your claim that what you think is not irrelevant to the facts. In fact, no person's thoughts have any bearing on the facts at all, they fact that you tried to claim that yours did is proof that you lack logic.
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its common fucking sence that a fishermen would kill a fish first before grinding it up.

That's your problem, you are assuming that they kill them first, when in fact, they do not:

http://www.glumbert.com/media/dolphin

It's rather common knowledge that they do not kill the dolphins before grinding them up. Substantiate

now think about this for a minute:

I did, and I think that you are erroneously presupposing things withoutdoing any research, which just goes to show how illogical your argument is.

oh, and they site cannot be owned by a member of peta or someone with the animal rights movment, it has to be completely unbiased and it has to be relieble, and no, it can't be wikipedia.

American animal rights groups do not care about this shit. I'm convinced all they care about is dicking around with the political system.

is you best debate strategie repeating youself?

No, that is yours.

stop it right there.

so you think that killing someone in an awful way is ok if they did it to a fish?

YES, a fish is a living creature too. Kill it for food? Sure, but don't do it so cruelly.

hes insult an entire race because of what a few fishermen may or may not of done to a fish.

Strange that you erroneously presuppose this. He was only talking about the cruel fishermen in Japan, not Japanese americans, or Japanese people who dislike that part of their culture, or Asian people in general for that matter. Sorry, you fail again.

is that all you can fucking say?

There is no need to address your childish, angry little personal attacks with more than a dismissal. Especially since they hold no truth.

ugh.

its like talking to a 4 year old.

This unsubstantiated presupposition is erroneous. Note: homor had no counter point to make.

use common sense.

Substantiated.

Sorry butyou erroneously presuming that your argument was you using common sense is not a substantiation of your claim.

you know what? im not taking that shit anymore, im deleteing anything from you along the lines of

"This unsubstantiated presupposition is erroneous."
"thats irrelevent"
"thats illogical"

Considering the terribly stupid nature of your arguments in the first place, suffice it to say that this is a cop-out on your part to avoid sustantiating your claims(since you can't), proving relevance where there is none(since you can't), or putting together a logical argument(since you can't).

what the fuck are you talking about? i 've never said that.

Wow, that's pathetic. You can't even remember what you said on this very page, which is ironic, considering that you are calling other people stupid. Yes, you did in fact say that, here:

At 11/17/07 10:59 AM, homor wrote:

At 11/17/07 10:51 AM, JerkClock wrote:

At 11/17/07 08:03 AM, homor wrote:

i thinkyou sould go suck a fucking dick for wanting to kill humans because of what they did to animals WHILE THEY WERE ALRADY FUCKING DEAD.

What you think is irrelevant.

NO IT ISN'T, you're just pulling that out of your asshole to make yourself look better.

So yes, you did say that, congratulations, you have proven yourself to be lacking in IQ points.

THEY DON'T GRIND THEM ALIVE.

Ad Nauseum, how ironic, considering you don't like when others repeat themselves. Not unexpected either, considering that you lack a logical argument.

moronic slack jawed saying

This unsubstantiated presupposition is erroneous.

a fishs family won't miss them.

a human family will miss them forever.

That is irrelevant to whether or not grinding it up is right. It still suffers.

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At 11/17/07 11:57 AM, JerkClock wrote: American animal rights groups do not care about this shit. I'm convinced all they care about is dicking around with the political system.

oh, you aren't with peta.

for give me for picking a fight with you.

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At 11/16/07 05:44 PM, Corky-D wrote: Intolerant idiot.

i agree rules are there for a reason

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At 11/17/07 12:55 PM, homor wrote: for give me for picking a fight with you.

*sigh* you deserve a better apolige then that.

im sorry for all the personal attack and slander, i let my haterd of PETA could my judgement.

again, im very sorry for what i said.

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Those protesting bastards! How dare they impede on tasty dolphin from ending up in my tinned Tuna!

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At 11/17/07 12:59 PM, homor wrote:
*sigh* you deserve a better apolige then that.

im sorry for all the personal attack and slander, i let my haterd of PETA could my judgement.

again, im very sorry for what i said.

Heh, well I completely understand, I hate PETA too. Yeah if I was from PETA there would plenty of substantiation right there calling me stupid.

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At 11/16/07 05:41 PM, DeadSun wrote:

but as for japan.....*pushes red button* im sending you a nuclear present. ha ha ha ha. fuck you, you japs! we beat you in world war 2 and we will beat you again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please don't do that. One thing I can't stand is arrogant comments such as that. Especially from America, for some reason. :/

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This thread gives me headaches.

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At 11/17/07 05:01 PM, Panzer-Wolf wrote: This thread gives me headaches.

I need a bottle of Advil...

Or a bullet...