Making a better society
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I'm personally against spanking your children, but you know, I don't condemn it with other people if they choose to do it, as long as it doesn't move from discipline to child abuse. While I would never do it to my (future) children, I can see a lot of kids on the street apparently doped up on ritalin that parents just don't want to deal with, and a lot of what they're on those pills for could have been solved by a few well-aimed hands to the ass.
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I think I'll draw the arbitrary line between discipline and abuse. If the physical damage lasts longer than 24 hours, its abuse.
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Because 2,000 years of "For God so loved the world" doesn't trump 1.2 million years of "Survival of the Fittest."
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At 8/7/03 07:03 PM, simply_forgotten wrote: Here's a good start:
(1) Set up good schools.
(2) Stop immigration.
(3) Kill today's crimminals.
(4) Kill the homeless.
(5) Kill the mentally ill.
I agree with (1), (2) and (3).
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At 8/10/03 12:36 AM, FUNKbrs wrote: I've always been a big fan of essay tests. That way there's no possible instance of getting anything right by chance. Either you knew it, and put it in your essay, or you didn't.
Pfft, you've obviously never aced Bullshitting 101 :P I could ace any essay question back in high school without knowing shit about the subject :P Generally however, I did know about the subject, more than the class taught, and I generally got them wrong because I would put shit in there that contradicted what we were taught :P
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At 8/10/03 01:12 AM, AmericanBADASS wrote: People will believe less in their religions and as more and more fucked up things get accepted into society the worse it will get.
Well I hope you're a prophet, because if people believe less and less in religion, the world will get better and better. :P
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At 8/10/03 03:49 PM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote: and a lot of what they're on those pills for could have been solved by a few well-aimed hands to the ass.
They are generally on those pills for ADHD, ADD, and other forms of hyperactivity. I don't think beating them is going to fix that. And I don't see them as disorders, I'm ADHD, and I avoided the drugs and learned how to utilize my "disability" to my advantage. Now I can multitask like a motherfucker, and as long as I keep myself incredibly busy, I work faster than my peers. And spanking your children only teaches them that violence is what you do to someone when you want to shape their behavior.
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At 8/10/03 06:16 PM, 70TA wrote: I agree with (1), (2) and (3).
So you've never broken the speed limit in your fast car that mommy and daddy bought you? Or would you have them kill you too?
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I think that George Carlin said it best when he said that we coddle kids too much, and there's too much protection for stupid kids nowadays.
You know, not to sound like a Nazi or anything, but all this protection for everybody and equality is driving us backwards as a society. You ever notice that the smart people who breed have two kids, when they want to, work hard, and put them through college to make them more or less productive citizens. The stupid people seem to breed in ridiculously large families, live on welfare (not that that's always a bad thing, been there, done it, and sometimes, it is unavoidable)and set an example for thier kids to do the same thing. If this continues, aren't we going to be overpopulated (even more so) with stupid people, all because they have all this protection?
Not that I want to line them up and shoot them. Just thinking out loud, making observations.
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At 8/11/03 12:43 AM, RoyBatty wrote:
Ooh, ass clown decided to talk again.
So you've never broken the speed limit in your fast car that mommy and daddy bought you? Or would you have them kill you too?
That is none of your business. And BTW, toolbox, I bought my TA, so go fuck yourself. Why would I kill my parents? Judging by the looks of you, that would be something you would do.
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At 8/11/03 01:22 AM, 70TA wrote: That is none of your business. And BTW, toolbox, I bought my TA, so go fuck yourself. Why would I kill my parents? Judging by the looks of you, that would be something you would do.
Ooh he's secretive about getting a speeding ticket, you must be hardcore. *rolls eyes* I don't know how you came up with "kill your parents" out of that post, but perhaps if you'd like to show them proper respect for handing you such shitty genes, go right ahead. Judging people by their looks is a really stupid manner of interpretation. But it fits you.
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At 8/7/03 07:03 PM, simply_forgotten wrote: Here's a good start:
(1) Set up good schools.
(2) Stop immigration.
(3) Kill today's crimminals.
(4) Kill the homeless.
(5) Kill the mentally ill.
1 is good. 2 is good. 3 is good, but not for all criminals. 4 is stupid. 5... I dunno... If they're SERIOUSLY ill, then maybe... Only if they become dangerous though.
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At 8/7/03 06:52 PM, FUNKbrs wrote: How do we raise children to be productive members of society and not engage in criminal behaviours?
My plan basically involves strong role models, personalized teaching methods, and results based ideology.
I really gotta disagree with you on that one point, my plan would try to teach kids to always view things from multiple perspectives, and try to teach them about complete world history, as to prevent any ignorance and side taking.
But i really think they should be tought actions based ideology, it just seems logical to me that the means are always more important than the ends.
At 8/7/03 07:03 PM, Oni- wrote: Here's a good start:
(1) Set up good schools.
So far so good.
(2) Stop immigration.
But then who will do the jobs no one else wants to? I mean, we all know how negative immigration was for building America </obvious sarcasm>
(3) Kill today's crimminals.
That would make sense if those criminals didn't have friends and family who would miss them dearly and make sure that their death will be avenged. Also, you can kill criminals all you want but they'll keep coming. You have to fight the disease, not the symptoms.
(4) Kill the homeless.
(5) Kill the mentally ill.
Look everyone, Hitler was reincarnated. I'm not kidding, Hitler had those same policies.
The basis of change? Intellect, not re-elect - Propagandhi
We can build a perfect society but what happens if our perfect society is invaded by a... what do you call them these days... evil!, yeah that's the cool word nowadays. What happens if your perfect society is incaded by an evil one?
We need to build a perfect world.
1. Erase Racism.
Anthropology should be a mandatory course as early as grade school because it's hard to teach an old dog new tricks. There should be religion classes in school but WORLD religions, all I ever learned in school was christianity. I finally had a world religion course in my 2nd year of college and it wasn't mandatory.
2. Political Awareness.
When America went to war with Iraq, putting the whole world in a state of terror *cough*terrorists*cough*, we discussed it a bit in every class, mostly world religions. However, there was ONE class that we never talked about Iraq, Economics. Economics was a mandatory course for the program I was in. I couldn't believe that we were in school learning how to calculate a country's GDP while people were getting killed by the hundreds. This is why I think a Socio-Political Issues class should be mandatory.
3. Showing history the way it really happened.
Open a history textbook, what do you see? Only the good stuff, nevermind that the first women to this land were actually orphaned prostitutes and that most, if not, all of North America was built by Blacks and Asians. Oh and let's ignore the 6 million Native Americans that were killed, completely eliminating dozens of races. Let's ignore all the massacres and slavery and torture. Let's paint a pretty picture.
I say: fuck that.
History books should portray history the way it really happened, not select a few events that glamorize your country.
Oh and let's stop saying that Native Americans came over here by walking on the Bering strait, shall we?
4. Forcing children to slaughter their own animals.
Ronald McDonald said during the 80s that "Hamburgers grow in hamburger patches and love to be eaten." If children were to see that chicken wings come from dismembered chickens and that ribs come from a disembowled pork or cow, they wouldn't be so fast fodd-crazed and would preserve the world's rainforest while having respect for all living things.
That's all I can think of right now.
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I know this may sound callous, but I've always wanted to slaughter my own meat. I mean, I eat it, I should take responsibility for it. I've butchered a whole chicken from the store on many occasions, and I figure slaughtering, plucking, and bleeding can't be that much worse.
Oh, and I think sterilization should be a sentence for serious criminals (ie rapists, murderers, etc). It's more humane than execution in cases where the death penalty is debatable.
Judge: 20 years in prison, and castration
*bangs gavel*
defendent's lawyer:Look at the bright side, you could have gotten the death penalty
defendent: You call this a compromise?!
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At 8/13/03 06:51 PM, FUNKbrs wrote: I know this may sound callous, but I've always wanted to slaughter my own meat.
Hear, hear! We should all have a NG Politics Forum hog slaughter. Come to the Indiana State Fair and we'll do just that.
I mean, I eat it, I should take responsibility for it. I've butchered a whole chicken from the store on many occasions, and I figure slaughtering, plucking, and bleeding can't be that much worse.
I'll join you, since I've always wanted to do the Ted Nugent thing, too. Fresh meat always tastes better than the stuff packed in the stores.
Oh, and I think sterilization should be a sentence for serious criminals (ie rapists, murderers, etc). It's more humane than execution in cases where the death penalty is debatable.
Forced sterilization...doesn't that qualify as a violation of human rights? I might be wrong, but didn't the a U.S. State just abandon the whole idea of sterilizing its rapist criminals?
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oops, did I forget to mention that I'm fascist, and think some people are not worthy of human rights (rapists, child molesters, etc)?
Anyways, I'm all for cruel and unusual punishments if they replace cruel and unusually long jail sentences.
"If you give a man life in prison, that's not a good reason to give him great medical care, is it?" <---FUNK
I wanna kill a pig and make sausage out of it SO bad....
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I've always wondered why they give medical checkups to prisoners on Death Row. Spending taxpayer money on it.
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At 8/15/03 04:20 PM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote: I've always wondered why they give medical checkups to prisoners on Death Row. Spending taxpayer money on it.
Humanism just doesn't make sense once you realize that, no, seriously, it would be better for all of us if some people just got 1 appeal, a year to make it pass, and then put a tight necktie on them and stand them on a REALLY unsafe podium.
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At 8/16/03 07:59 PM, FUNKbrs wrote:At 8/15/03 04:20 PM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote: I've always wondered why they give medical checkups to prisoners on Death Row. Spending taxpayer money on it.Humanism just doesn't make sense once you realize that, no, seriously, it would be better for all of us if some people just got 1 appeal, a year to make it pass, and then put a tight necktie on them and stand them on a REALLY unsafe podium.
I'm going to appoint you my Secretary of Death when the Judgist Party is elected in the 2004 Presidential Elections.
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Well, I guess that settles it....
JMHX FOR PRESIDENT!!!!
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ok, I'll be President of Secretaries (and other babes B-)
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as much as i dont see how this could possibly be the answer as it wont work, but i think segrigation between classes would help. but i guess private schools are doing that somewhat, but people like me who live in rural areas dont have a private school availible to them. so the whole ghetto gose to my school everyday, "to the windows, to th walls, to the sweat drop down my balls. what is it bitch im grow(from a young man 5'2) " its enough to make a perfectly reasonable human being turn to a life of crime.
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At 10/27/03 12:55 AM, Judge_Dredd wrote: ok, I'll be President of Secretaries (and other babes B-)
Thanks for pulling up a thread with some of JMHX's campaign promises to me. Remember this stuff when you come into power, JMHX. I'm really looking forward to that Ministry of Death job, you know.
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At 8/14/03 05:16 AM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote: Forced sterilization...doesn't that qualify as a violation of human rights? I might be wrong, but didn't the a U.S. State just abandon the whole idea of sterilizing its rapist criminals?
I myself think that most criminals should be giving up there rights if they commit the act. Why would you allow someone who is guilty of a crime to continue to be a citizen? I definately think the casteration would be a great thing for serious criminals(Child molestors, rapists, etc.) It's like, "So you raped and killed little Suzy Q back there huh? Well, guess what! -Chop!-"
Oh, and JudgeMeHarshX, I'd certainly vote for you. If you lead anywhere near how you talk/argue/debate, then I'd follow. XD
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*inhales deeply of the Force*
"hmm, Judgement is strong in this thread!" </jedi voice>
..to make a better society we have to have small pockets of localized justice. Kinda how Guantanamo Bay is a land and law unto itself. Kinda how America has constitutional law for every state, but on a much wider scale; commune states, cult states, lawless states, anarchy states, christian states, the whole works.. (then just have very lax migration law and see what happens!)
For every new "unconditional ban" (on smoking for example) ..then you should have to set up a new state, merge the states that share common laws, and divide the states where laws differ, and let suvival of the fittest be the litmus test for each and every combination of political belief system.
That's how i would do it (..yeah, it's the opposite of forcing "free democracy" on every nation ;)



