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At 11/10/07 09:59 AM, daniel123297 wrote: for all the people saying it looks nothin like a human, it's freakin anime fgs!

Stop making excuses for your shitty art.
Even anime has resemblance to humans. And if you cant take the criticism that you asked for go the hell away.

so the the head shape was the bad part right? Because i took some parts of it from Moosh's design, so ill stick to his head pattern too

Wow, you must either be very good at drawing circles, or you used a compass. Below is an image of a normal human being's face. I even marked out the shape of the head in red. Please try and learn from your mistakes, and don't be discouraged by people's criticisms of your drawings. The guidelines apply both for manga and real life drawing. Also, hair is generally flat.

Oh, by the way, here's what a pencil dude really looks like.

the reson he has spiky hair is...welll... i think its cool :)

At 11/10/07 07:53 AM, daniel123297 wrote: ok he's finished, and he's named... Doodle dude!

try making fingers. looks like hes just making a fist in front of a floating pencil... if you can say it looks like a fist. look at how things really look and try to copy them. youll improve with time

At 11/10/07 12:50 PM, daniel123297 wrote: the reson he has spiky hair is...welll... i think its cool :)

It may look cool, but only if it's done right. Hair is not supposed to be the main focus of the drawing, nor is it supposed to be bigger than the head.

Just give up on trying to help him...this guy's pathetic, he doesn't even use our suggestions. He just keeps going on and on with his crappy "art". Maybe his friends find it cool, I dunno. But seriously what the fuck!? Is it really THAT hard to draw a head smaller than the whole body? Yes yes, there are styles. But anime still has some anatomy in it.

I mean seriously, if your drawings would become alive. They'd fall, because their head would have the 50% of the whole weight. And then their lifes would be miserable.

So please, do us favor until we've lost the faith of humanity and stop it...If you wanna get help just practise, you can't become da vinci in one day.

To Daniel123459,
I'm sorry... We tried to help you. But you just don't listen to what we say, and we're just wasting our time trying to help you. If you want to continue drawing like a 5 year old, fine. As Lorkas said, Da Vinci didn't become an artist in one day. At some point in our lives, we drew like you. Unlike you, we actually took advice, practiced, studied, got carpal tunnel, and became the artists we are today. By the way, you might want to focus more on the drawing and less on the coloring. Clean line work always looks better than messy colored pictures. You have two options: either you learn to draw better, or continue drawing like a 5 year old. If you're not going to listen to us, then at least stop making threads about it.

ok, i've finished drawing a few more pics and... these are the stuff thats been improved

>The head shape and size

>The hair

>Im gonna do em in black and white (maybe)

>The anatomy

And.... everyone who says i suck (Lorkas) you should give criticism(which most people have been), not a load of "OMFG u suck, stop drawing like a 5 year old... He lol i insulted him... now im cool :D"

hey daniel, how old are you? I'm just curious

but anyway, don't get angry or quit or anything because people are flaming you, everyone great artist has to start somewhere, i'm willing to bet 90% of all artists (including myself) have looked at one of their sketchbooks or something they drew a year ago and go "Holy Crap what was i thinking!?"
Becoming a good artist takes time and practice, you like to draw anime? Take some drawing classes, learn to do figure drawing and practice proportion and anatomy, pick up a how to book from a store, and just keep drawing over and over until you start to get better. You also might want to look at what you draw in comparison to proffessionally done anime, see how they differ and look at what they do and try to mimic that style, once you get good at it then throw in your own style. I'm going to assume your a younger patron of the art forum and tell you that you have plenty of time to get better, i'm 17 and i personally think after many years of drawing i've only started to get good within the past 2 years, so it takes time but i have faith you can become one of the better artistts here :)

At 11/11/07 12:09 PM, daniel123297 wrote: And.... everyone who says i suck (Lorkas) you should give criticism

learn how to draw, try showing improvement, in the last collection of pictures you only showed the same horrible anatomy of anime-characters, doodles aren't coloured in or are one drawing per sheet of paper.

so far, natural selection looks down on you, in order to draw good you need to get your balls dropped, darwins theory.

well i've just started drwaing SERIOUS anime, cos i think chibi looks lame now, and actually ive gottena littttlllle better.

At 11/11/07 12:39 PM, daniel123297 wrote: well i've just started drwaing SERIOUS anime, cos i think chibi looks lame now,

orly, you started drwaing SERIOUS anime? let's have a look at that.

and actually ive gottena littttlllle better.

don't give yourself to much credit.

mmk, man, this is coming from someone who used to draw like you, give up the manga/anime style
If you try it later maybe you will be better. Work out your proportions. long body-short stocky legs=no

but manga/anime is one of the only ways i can draw.

well seeing as i've been told not to draw anime, what should i draw?

Try making up your own style, if drawing humans and stuff isn't your thing, draw objects and shapes ^__^

At 11/11/07 02:00 PM, daniel123297 wrote: well seeing as i've been told not to draw anime, what should i draw?

dont take requests. draw whatever you want, BUT, dont post it here. if you want to get better at drawing just carry some paper around and sketch from time to time. take some art classes if needed, just draw and get better at it before showing something that people will ultimately call shit.

heres a new anime pic i drew and its serious anime, not chibi and i plan to colour it later

At 11/11/07 02:29 PM, daniel123297 wrote: heres a new anime pic i drew and its serious anime, not chibi and i plan to colour it later

1. it's chibi, it's head is the same size as it's body.
2. same hairstyle again.
3. it's still shit.

ok darksytez i'll work on ur first ur first 2 reasons, but reason 3, WHY is it shit?

How in the hell is that any better!? And no I wasn't just flaming you to look cool. I wanted to make you feel like "Oh yeah Lorkas!? How about I'll start studying art, throw my cheapass pics away and start trying! Then you won't flame me!!" So yeah. I did a good thing.

Also, I have a good sense of self-critisizm. I always see the flaws in my pics and try to fix them. You know, learn from your mistakes.

Ok, this won't help...people tried being nice to you. But you just don't listen to them. I guess I'll have to use my maths-teacher's-method (A.K.A - scream the fuck out of a person, and he'll start improving then).

HEY FAGGOT YOUR ART SUX AND YOUR NOT EVEN TRYING TO IMPROVE IT! YOUR PATHETIC, YOUR NOTHING BUT A PIECE OF MISERABLE SHIT WHO DOESNT KNOW HOW TO DRAW. BUT THATS NOT THE PROBLEM YOU DUMB FUCK!!! THE FUCKING PROBLEM IS THAT YOU DONT HAVE ANY SELF CRITISIZM, AND CANT TAKE ADVICES. YOUR A FUCKING FAILURE. YOU CAN GO AND MASTURBATE TO YOUR 3 MINUTE DRAWINGS WITCH LOOK LIKE MINE WHEN I WAS 3. I HOPE YOU GET YOUR FINGERS CUT OFF AND YOUR EYES STABBED OUT AND YOUR EARS SOWED ON, SO THAT YOU COULDNT CREATE, SEE OR HEAR ANYTHING RELATED TO ART.

Well that didn't work. So back to the do-gooder. Just practise some other styles, and when you see that it's working out, stick to it. Then advance to a more complex style (like realistic anatomy). Also, never give up. Even though I mentioned for you to stab your eyes in my Maths-teacher-method...but that's just nothing.

Good luck, please draw something else (like cartoonish pics). Maybe you're bound to draw JunkyCow's art, I dunno. It's for you to find that out!

At 11/12/07 11:36 AM, Lorkas wrote: How in the hell is that any better!? et cetera...

Hey asshat, how about you just stop talking? Your gibberish and constant swearing don't help anyone but yourself. Try actually being nice to the kid for a change.
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Anyhoo, try going out, sitting on a park bench, and doing 30 second sketches of the people you see. This technique forces you concentrate on the whole figure - the proportions, the angles - instead of the little details.

Details are fun to draw, but don't really help you much in the long run.

At 11/12/07 12:16 PM, InsertFunnyUserName wrote:

At 11/12/07 11:36 AM, Lorkas wrote: How in the hell is that any better!? et cetera...

Hey asshat, how about you just stop talking? Your gibberish and constant swearing don't help anyone but yourself. Try actually being nice to the kid for a change.

Well boo-fuckin-hoo!

At 11/12/07 12:19 PM, Lorkas wrote:

At 11/12/07 12:16 PM, InsertFunnyUserName wrote:

At 11/12/07 11:36 AM, Lorkas wrote: How in the hell is that any better!? et cetera...

Hey asshat, how about you just stop talking? Your gibberish and constant swearing don't help anyone but yourself. Try actually being nice to the kid for a change.

Well boo-fuckin-hoo!

You really need better things to do with your time. Really.

Trying to piss people off in some kid's art thread is pretty sad.

At 11/12/07 12:22 PM, InsertFunnyUserName wrote:

You really need better things to do with your time. Really.

Trying to piss people off in some kid's art thread is pretty sad.

Taking jokes serious is pretty sad too.

what is chibi? i'm guessing some type of anime but what are its differences from ordinary anime?

At 11/12/07 12:28 PM, Lorkas wrote:

At 11/12/07 12:22 PM, InsertFunnyUserName wrote:

You really need better things to do with your time. Really.

Trying to piss people off in some kid's art thread is pretty sad.

Taking jokes serious is pretty sad too.

I don't care what you think.

And it doesn't matter if it was a joke or not. The kid actually thinks you think he's a terrible artist. And seeing as he's probably a beginner, his art isn't that bad.

At 11/12/07 12:31 PM, InsertFunnyUserName wrote:

At 11/12/07 12:28 PM, Lorkas wrote:

At 11/12/07 12:22 PM, InsertFunnyUserName wrote:

You really need better things to do with your time. Really.

Trying to piss people off in some kid's art thread is pretty sad.

Taking jokes serious is pretty sad too.

I don't care what you think.

And it doesn't matter if it was a joke or not. The kid actually thinks you think he's a terrible artist. And seeing as he's probably a beginner, his art isn't that bad.

I didn't expect that there are people who care about what internet Anonymous'es think about them...I guess I was wrong. Anyway, no harm done. So what, people get angry all the time! It's nothing special about this time. NOTHING! N - O - T - H - I - N -G!