Republican Prayer? What is it?

[JonH2O]

Kyle said:

"I fucking hate most of the Kitsap County Republican Party. Seriously. I was explaining to an older woman (60s or 70s) about how the war is financed (China provides the funding and puts us into debt by the trillions) and explained that an economic takeover by China will happen and is far more dangerous than any Middle Eastern terrorist group. She replied, "Well, it's gonna happen anyway." She later went onto say that she supported the troops. What the fuck? Seriously. What. The. Fuck.

One member of the board tried to say that the Constitution is open to interpretation like the Bible and I informed him that the intention of the Constitution is CLEARLY explained in The Federalist Papers. The board member had no idea what the Federalist Papers were. I kindly recommended that he read that and the Anti-Federalist Papers.

One person on the board tried to pass a motion that would make Christianity the "official" religion of the county party. I was expecting them to be divided half and half, but after nearly 30 minutes of debating most of them voted against it. Some people in the audience supported it (especially one old fellow in front of me*), but an overwhelming majority thought that the idea was fucking crazy. A mormon lady gave a good speech about the topic.

To sum up my feelings about most of the Kitsap County Republicans: these are the people that will destroy the country (along with most Democrats). They have no grasp of the real world and have no idea what integrity is. I mean, it's pretty sad that a 20 year old knows more about government and politics than most of the people there."

-Kyle

The same lady then tried to pass that we research and put into effect the ORIGINAL prayer for Republican meetings. Does anyone know what it is?

*He claimed that the Christian god wasn't the same god as the Muslim and Jewish god. ANYONE who has taken a basic study of religion knows that Judaism, Christianity, and Islam all worship the same god. Hell, they are all practically the same religion.

[Proteas]

Republican prayer? News to me.

But as to the "same God" comment, I stopped believing that line of crap a long time ago. My God does not tell me to smite any those who disagree with my theology, he tells me that they are Anathema Maranatha and that they will be subject to his wrath on Judgment Day.

My God does not tell me that any portrayal of his likeness should be met with riots in the street or threats of murder against the artist and newpaper publishers who put out the cartoon, he tells me to turn the other cheek and give unto them my cloak as well.

My God does not tell me that that women should be covered in a black burkha from head to toe and beaten within an inch of their life if they should speak in public or go unaccompanied by a male family member, on the contrary... he tells me that her hair alone is enough of a covering for her head in the House of the Lord, and that she should be valued above Rubies for the work she does and the blessings she brings unto her household.

And lastly, my God doesn't promise me 72 virgins and an everlasting hard-on should I die in the process of killing aforementioned non-prescribers to my selected faith, merely being in the presence of God in Heaven and reunited with long departed loved ones is gift enough, no sexual fulfillment required.

Same God... *chuckle*

[jcorishas]

At 11/8/07 11:44 PM, Proteas wrote:
Same God... *chuckle*

Yes, they are the same god. Christians, Jews and Muslims follow the god of Abraham just a little differently. Just because you can find verses in the Qur'an that justifies the slaughter of "non-believers" or infidels does not mean they follow a different god, on the contrary, you can find similar verses in the Old and New Testament as well as verses preaching kindness and forgiveness in all three books. Also that 72 virgin crap is not in the Qur'an, just like the Rapture is not in the New Testament. It's just another fabrication built upon previous fabrications to justify the killing of innocents.

[W31RD0]

At 11/8/07 11:44 PM, Proteas wrote: My God does not tell me that any portrayal of his likeness should be met with riots in the street or threats of murder against the artist and newpaper publishers who put out the cartoon, he tells me to turn the other cheek and give unto them my cloak as well.

Just make sure that cloak is not polyester, or your a fucking abomination.

My God does not tell me that that women should be covered in a black burkha from head to toe and beaten within an inch of their life if they should speak in public or go unaccompanied by a male family member, on the contrary... he tells me that her hair alone is enough of a covering for her head in the House of the Lord, and that she should be valued above Rubies for the work she does and the blessings she brings unto her household.

Yeah, perhaps you should read the rest of what your God says...

And lastly, my God doesn't promise me 72 virgins and an everlasting hard-on should I die in the process of killing aforementioned non-prescribers to my selected faith, merely being in the presence of God in Heaven and reunited with long departed loved ones is gift enough, no sexual fulfillment required.

I believe there was a study done comparing the Qur'an to the Bible. The results were that the Bible included more violent passages than in the Qur'an.

[Proteas]

At 11/9/07 11:04 PM, jcorishas wrote: Yes, they are the same god. Christians, Jews and Muslims follow the god of Abraham just a little differently.

There are 360 different names in the Bible for God, and while Allah is one of them, that's where the similarities END.

Just because you can find verses in the Qur'an that justifies the slaughter of "non-believers" or infidels does not mean they follow a different god, on the contrary, you can find similar verses in the Old and New Testament as well as verses preaching kindness and forgiveness in all three books.

Unless you noticed, God tended to mellow out with the whole vengefull smiting thing in the New Testament, and so did the Church and it's believers after a while, while Islam has not.

Also that 72 virgin crap is not in the Qur'an, just like the Rapture is not in the New Testament. It's just another fabrication built upon previous fabrications to justify the killing of innocents.

Scriptural Basis for 72 Virgins.

Scriptural Basis for the Rapture

At 11/10/07 06:19 PM, W31RD0 wrote: Just make sure that cloak is not polyester, or your a fucking abomination.

Yeah, perhaps you should read the rest of what your God says...

Do you actually have something to contribute to this conversation, or are you just here to spam?

I believe there was a study done comparing the Qur'an to the Bible. The results were that the Bible included more violent passages than in the Qur'an.

Oh really? Would you mind citing it for me, or am I going to have to do your legwork for you? Because I've looked, and all I can find is blogospheres and message boards about it.

[davisev5225]

While the word "Allah" translates (roughly) into "God", they are not the same conceptual being.

I won't bother doing the legwork on this, since the OP obviously doesn't know theology, and is therefore a moron for trying to start a serious topic in Politics about something they know very little about.

[WolvenBear]

At 11/8/07 11:28 PM, JonH2O wrote: *He claimed that the Christian god wasn't the same god as the Muslim and Jewish god. ANYONE who has taken a basic study of religion knows that Judaism, Christianity, and Islam all worship the same god. Hell, they are all practically the same religion.

Not to piss in your cheerios here, but the Jewish religion doesn't believe in the divinity of Jesus, who we (Christians) believe is part of the trinity of God. So we at least differ on 2 of the 3 parts of God. And the Quran claims that those who associate partners with God are truly unholy. So we don't really agree there either. If a mistake, it's clearly and understanable one.

At 11/9/07 11:04 PM, jcorishas wrote: Just because you can find verses in the Qur'an that justifies the slaughter of "non-believers" or infidels does not mean they follow a different god, on the contrary, you can find similar verses in the Old and New Testament as well as verses preaching kindness and forgiveness in all three books.

There are three differences here:
1. The Quran is an open command to all Muslims. And as such, it demands violence. As even lapis has said, the Quran condones open violence, as long as certain conditions are met. Nothing of similar stature exists in either the New or Old Testiment. Whereas the Bible is written in historical storied context, the Quran is just revelations for the Muslim.
2. Even if number 1 didn't exist...if all commands were open, the Bible would still be less violent. Jericho has fallen. We can't attack it anymore. The Ninevites are buried. We cannot attack them anymore. The unbeliever however...will always remain.
3. Much of the "violent passages" in the Bible, are happening to the people of the book. The crucifiction is a story of Christ's suffering, not the Romans. No one can use Herod's killing of the infants as a justification for anything. Or Shadrach Meshack and Abendego to justify immolation. Etc.

[JonH2O]

I think you guys took that quote a bit too seriously..
All I wanted to know was if there's any such references to a first religious prayer in the republican party.