At 6/12/12 01:52 PM, Snuff wrote:
And anyway, it's modern punk I guess, aren't many bands that do old school punk anymore, it seems to have evolved, or devolved, however you want to look at it.
No, most of the punk bands from the 80's are still around now, although they're starting to age. Hell, even the UK Subs are still regularly touring and their singer is approaching his 70th birthday now. The man is a legend. You just don't hear about them because when punk went out of fashion all the posers moved on and started talking about other music. Real punk still exists, you just have to know the right people or know where to look. We still have a massive punk festival in Blackpool every summer called Rebellion Festival. Even some of the bigger American bands have started playing at it. I think Rancid are coming over this year.
At 6/12/12 04:31 PM, Spilda-Bongwata wrote:
i don't think dean appreciates green day being labelled punk, that doesn't make him a hipster at all.
Pretty much this. I was brought up by someone who lived through the 80's as a punk. A real punk. Not a punk who gave up and moved on when the next new thing came along. To him, punk was a way for kids that were being given no hope of a decent future a chance to air their opinion and have fun doing so. It was never about the money for the real bands. Very few could actually live off of their music. They were just kids who'd play down the pub on a Friday/Saturday night.
Now you get bands like Green Day. Lets face it, they're making music to make money. They live off of their music. It's a job. People consider bands like those part of the "punk revival" but punk was never dead to begin with and this is the reason I don't like these bands. They took a scene that was still going strong and doing it's own thing. They restyled it and turned it into what I consider a pretty pathetic scene where well off kids moan about losing girls.
It's just messed up in my opinion. I guess I just wish people were more appreciative of where this "new punk" came from. I just don't get how they can consider themselves punk when they couldn't even name the bands that helped make punk what it is.
I don't mind what people listen to. I'm not going genuinely to mock someone for listening to Green Day. I just wish they were a little less ignorant when it comes to slapping a punk label on something that is everything punk stands against. I don't care if they don't even like the bands, but I think they should at least be aware of who they are and what they achieved.
Anyway, I didn't mean to start some kind of big debate. Although if anyone is super keen to listen to some real punk, I can PM you a selection of it. Done this for a few users in the past who wanted to know more about British punk.
PS - Leo, I'm no hipster :P