At 6/12/12 06:02 PM, BananaBreadMuffin wrote:
Complete contradiction if you ask me. A genre dying is it going out of fashion. There are still people who enjoy 20s swing, but I'd consider the genre as close to dead as it's going to get in that it's not in "popular" (to some degree of popular) fashion.
I disagree :P
Just because something is out of fashion doesn't make it dead. I'd say 20's swing is dead because it's no longer the 20's. I wouldn't say the swing scene is dead, it's just not thriving like it once did. I completely disagree that something has to be considered popular by the masses to be "alive". There's still enough people out their listening to and creating what I consider "real" punk music. It's just no longer one of the main scenes that you're going to hear people talking about. You can consider these scenes to be underground if you want, but I'd definitely disagree that they're dead.
Should I need to know a history of first wave and 2tone to appreciate Reel Big Fish? No, of course not!
Okay, you make a good point there. I don't know who Reel Big Fish are but surely you're at least familiar with some of the bands they take influence from? Do they at least have similarities with older bands from their genre, because this is kinda what I'm getting at. If I were to let your typical Green Day fan listen to a band like say... The Cockney Rejects (a big, well known punk band) and not tell them what genre it was, I'm willing to bet they wouldn't even have a clue that it's considered punk. This is sort of what my problem is. I can't really explain why it bothers me a little, but it does.
It's a shame, sure, that someone doesn't like your underappreciated genre of choice.
Maybe I'm taking this out of context, but this is definitely not what I was getting at. I never meant to come across as being all "you should only be able to like Green Day if you like proper punk". I'm not going to tell people what music to like. That would be pretty hypocritical of someone who has no interest in most of the music the radio tells me the listen to. I never meant to sound like I'm upset that my music isn't mainstream. I don't have a problem with that at all.
Like, it's a shame that punk now means two things
I guess this is one of my problems. You've met me Leo. Did I come across as some middle class kid who likes to moan about losing girlfriends and being bored? Because when I tell people I like punk, this is what some of them associate that genre with. I don't like that. I don't like being associated with that.
I'll do my best to educate them,
This is all I'm trying to do. I don't mean to come across as though I'm telling people what to listen to. It's just my goal to make people who listen to modern "punk" aware of what punk actually is. Nothing more, nothing less.
What I'm trying to get at is that some people just don't listen to music like we do.
Change of topic, but this is something I'm all too familiar with. It's saddening in a way, living in rural Scotland and being one of the only few younger folk to listen to punk. I have nobody my age to talk about music with here. I loved going into Edinburgh to see punk bands play in the past. People my age who actually appreciate this music. It's nice to just talk about it.