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At 1/20/08 07:37 PM, DaVeB0T wrote:

At 1/20/08 01:40 PM, OkamiZaku wrote: Great, now there's the Jew Jihad!?

great job digging up a 3 year old flash and whining about an obviously dead CC ripoff, but I like the catchy name anyway.

Actually, though faded and almost nonexistent, members have made submissions in 08. Or a member, singular, I should say, since it seems like it was just two in a CC wannabe crew.

At 1/20/08 02:12 PM, Jackisback wrote: naa i dont think thats true we dont try to view you in stereotypical ways and we also dont have any

The KK sucks, and that's that...about 99.9% of it, anyway.

At 1/19/08 11:02 PM, OkamiZaku wrote:

At 1/19/08 10:25 PM, Portal-Spammer wrote: RUPEE CLOCK YIFFZ TEH STRAW BERY!!111111111111111111111 WOW WAT A GR8 ANI M8ON!11111111 I MAD IT AL MY SELF AN MY MOMMY SED I CEN POST IT ON NEW GROUND!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111

Innapropriate forum material much???

Portal-Spammer speaks the truth.

At 1/19/08 11:13 PM, SoulMaster71 wrote: He's another one of those Zeebmork alts made to be the new Kberkags.

No shit, Sherlock.

Or since he was from before LordZeebmork created his main, I should say "stolen to be the new Kberkags".

Well, if somebody uses an easily guessable disposable e0mail address, they're fucking asking for it.

And while Zeebmork sometimes makes a post that shows the intelligence of a 12-year-old, he only does it on his main. Never on an alt, and surely never as Kberkag.

Hahaha...

I thought Fatkid hated all spam not done by StrawberyClock

At 1/20/08 11:39 AM, DaVeB0T wrote: IP banning wont work if we use proxies, and IP banning is the most extreme measure possible. You would have to do something as extreme as post child porn *cough7starcough* or something highly malicous (making several alts to spam and taking no steps to cover your tracks) to get ip banned.

K0RKZ supposedly got IP banned once. He's still around.

At 1/20/08 10:22 PM, LordZeebmork wrote:

At 1/20/08 11:39 AM, DaVeB0T wrote: IP banning wont work if we use proxies, and IP banning is the most extreme measure possible. You would have to do something as extreme as post child porn *cough7starcough* or something highly malicous (making several alts to spam and taking no steps to cover your tracks) to get ip banned.

K0RKZ supposedly got IP banned once. He's still around.

And there is still someone claiming to be SevenStar, and if anything would get a man IP banned it would be posting CP.

At 1/17/08 08:16 PM, yoshi77777 wrote:
But SBC's account is currently locked and has been since 2004. It was hacked by our friend Bedn.

Yeah you know what? I'm sick of seeing people bitch about Bedn too. He's grown up and stopped acting childishly, too bad the same can't be said for you
Ferrous Cranuses attacking the kitty krew Ad Nauseum. You've all still failed to explain how posting Flash that you aren't forced to watch effects you in a bad way, but that's probably because you can't.

At 1/21/08 05:09 AM, JerkClock wrote: Ferrous Cranuses

How true that is.

You've all still failed to explain how posting Flash that you aren't forced to watch effects you in a bad way, but that's probably because you can't.

Because they want every portal submission to be on par with, say, Brackenwood or Tankmen. Not entertaining at all, but the same rehashed plotline and jokes every time.

And besides, how completely fucking horrifying is it to get free protect and review-whistle points? I love how most of the people who bitch about spam are total statwhores.

At 1/20/08 10:31 PM, SoulMaster71 wrote:

At 1/20/08 10:22 PM, LordZeebmork wrote:

At 1/20/08 11:39 AM, DaVeB0T wrote:

And there is still someone claiming to be SevenStar, and if anything would get a man IP banned it would be posting CP.

Wo, SevenStar!? He got deleted because he was sharing child pornography, right!? D:

Wow this post has gone popular. I thought it was dead.

At 1/21/08 09:20 AM, LordZeebmork wrote:

Because they want every portal submission to be on par with, say, Brackenwood or Tankmen. Not entertaining at all, but the same rehashed plotline and jokes every time.

I dunno I like brackenwood myself, to say all entries have to be good is just silly. Even among the "good" ones you can't like all of them. And some of the "crap" for that matter is actually funny, albiet not always in a good way.

And besides, how completely fucking horrifying is it to get free protect and review-whistle points? I love how most of the people who bitch about spam are total statwhores.

Lol I know right? Take the adolf hitler pokemon Flash, I think those are spam and I don't like them, but I also think they're an excellent source of protection points.

At 1/21/08 02:00 PM, JerkClock wrote:

At 1/21/08 09:20 AM, LordZeebmork wrote:

Because they want every portal submission to be on par with, say, Brackenwood or Tankmen. Not entertaining at all, but the same rehashed plotline and jokes every time.

I dunno I like brackenwood myself, to say all entries have to be good is just silly. Even among the "good" ones you can't like all of them. And some of the "crap" for that matter is actually funny, albiet not always in a good way.

For once I find myself agreeing with you, at least that some of the crappy submissions can, under certain circumstances, be humorous, after a fashion. It only gets to annoy us when there's too much of it, and it claims to be something it's not. That's one of the reasons people like me begin to dislike the Kitty Krew, and other spam groups.

And besides, how completely fucking horrifying is it to get free protect and review-whistle points? I love how most of the people who bitch about spam are total statwhores.

Lol I know right? Take the adolf hitler pokemon Flash, I think those are spam and I don't like them, but I also think they're an excellent source of protection points.

I don't really care for them, but AfroUnderscoreStud at least always puts them to good music, and really doesn't claim that they're anything that they're not. So they may be a kind of spam, but not the kind that those of us here are pissed off about.

The only real problem (at least, the one we see, which you obviously do not) is that so much crap passes that many people who love Newgrounds and good Flash wouldn't give a 2 to if their NG membership depended on it. An occasional bad flash here and there isn't terrible, but when
shitty flash after shitty flash gets submitted by the same damn person under so many alts (all those 2008 submissions were in the last 3 days for example), and gets passed, people like me, OkamiZaku, Gustavos, and most of the rest here who are or were anti-KK or anti-spam, people who care deeply about the quality of Flash in the Portal, we get mad, and we make anti-KK news posts, and anti-KK threads like this.

At 1/21/08 02:24 PM, SoulMaster71 wrote:
For once I find myself agreeing with you, at least that some of the crappy submissions can, under certain circumstances, be humorous, after a fashion. It only gets to annoy us when there's too much of it, and it claims to be something it's not. That's one of the reasons people like me begin to dislike the Kitty Krew, and other spam groups.

But your argument still begits the problem that you have to watch them to be annoyed by them. They won't be a problem if you just watch what's on the front page or in the collections. And if it annoys you because you watch UJ Flash, well that's just tough shit. Filtering UJ is there for a reason, but it's not for the faint of heart, there's going to be problems. And sometimes stuff will make it through that you don't feel should, it happens. Besides which, some of it is funny because it annoys people. Like those seizure animations.

I don't really care for them, but AfroUnderscoreStud at least always puts them to good music, and really doesn't claim that they're anything that they're not. So they may be a kind of spam, but not the kind that those of us here are pissed off about.

They should be, they're the same fucking animation over and over again, slightly rehashed.

The only real problem (at least, the one we see, which you obviously do not) is that so much crap passes that many people who love Newgrounds and good Flash wouldn't give a 2 to if their NG membership depended on it. An occasional bad flash here and there isn't terrible, but when
shitty flash after shitty flash gets submitted by the same damn person under so many alts (all those 2008 submissions were in the last 3 days for example), and gets passed, people like me, OkamiZaku, Gustavos, and most of the rest here who are or were anti-KK or anti-spam, people who care deeply about the quality of Flash in the Portal, we get mad, and we make anti-KK news posts, and anti-KK threads like this.

That still doesn't answer my point about how it hurts you.

At 1/21/08 02:34 PM, JerkClock wrote:

I don't really care for them, but AfroUnderscoreStud at least always puts them to good music, and really doesn't claim that they're anything that they're not. So they may be a kind of spam, but not the kind that those of us here are pissed off about.

They should be, they're the same fucking animation over and over again, slightly rehashed.

Precisely. The only reason you're saying you're not pissed off about Afro_Stud's Adolf Hitler series is because he's a popular NG user.

That still doesn't answer my point about how it hurts you.

Because they're idiots.

Bottom line, kids, Newgrounds is a website. It's not perfect, and it never will be, because it relies on user contributions, which are an uncontrollable factor. UJ works to a degree, but there are ways around it that cannot be solved. If you can't learn to deal with the fact that this isn't real life, you'll have a really hard time dealing with the stuff outside of the computer.

So just get over it.

At 1/21/08 03:25 PM, NEVR wrote:

At 1/21/08 02:34 PM, JerkClock wrote:

I don't really care for them, but AfroUnderscoreStud at least always puts them to good music, and really doesn't claim that they're anything that they're not. So they may be a kind of spam, but not the kind that those of us here are pissed off about.

They should be, they're the same fucking animation over and over again, slightly rehashed.

Precisely. The only reason you're saying you're not pissed off about Afro_Stud's Adolf Hitler series is because he's a popular NG user.

Well, I don't even know who that Afro guy is. That Adolf Hitler series is actually cool because it was an original idea at the start, and he's going to go all the way to the 496th Pokemon. And more when the next set of 150 or so screwed up creatures come around. The first one I saw was when he caught Weedle. Now, he's already at Feraligator I think.

That still doesn't answer my point about how it hurts you.

Because they're idiots.

I don't know about the others, but I'm a respectable idiota where I'm from.

Bottom line, kids, Newgrounds is a website. It's not perfect, and it never will be, because it relies on user contributions, which are an uncontrollable factor. UJ works to a degree, but there are ways around it that cannot be solved. If you can't learn to deal with the fact that this isn't real life, you'll have a really hard time dealing with the stuff outside of the computer.

So just get over it.

Hang on, what does UJ mean?

I know you think that were just kids with low levels who don't understand the first thing about anything. Which to a regular person, makes no sense. But nobody can show you any kind of logic in the fact that we're all different humans with different brains, thoughts, and instincts. Just because we don't agree with you, does NOT mean we're retarded. What we call "making a point", you call playing crusade. What we call showing our love for the best site ever, you call being an immature kid with no friends.

Also, weren't Jerkclock and NEVR the ones who were going to sit back and laugh at our failure? Well, they certainly can show they stick to their word. Nice job hypocrites.

I'm starting to realize some things about this spamming situation. At first I thought the KK were the bad guys, but now I realise that there are individual people who just want to ruin people's time on Newgrounds.

It only seems that's what the KK want, but they just want to be known by people and are willing to fight to be a great crew on Newgrounds. Better than the Clock Crew even. Or at least that's what some KK members want.

As for individual people who just want to ruin Newgrounds, a great example would be lordZeebMork and his new army of KberKags. He stole accounts and doesn't spam the same way as the KK. He shouldn't be aloud to have an account. Of course he won't leave and there's absolutely nothing anybody can do until he realizes what he's doing is pointless. Which will never happen.

That's what I think...

At 1/21/08 05:13 PM, CuteAndFuzzy wrote: But look at the type of people you're dealing with. They go as far as researching flash crews on this site and making online petitions (which never work btw).

True. I can't say I don't find their efforts amusing though.

We've already accepted spam as part of newgrounds' culture, and consequently we have to accept overambitious anti-spam revolutionists as a part of it, too.

Oh, I agree. These types of people are always going to be here, same as spammers. The difference is that spammers aren't annoyingly self-righteous. Still, both obviously have the 'Mommy didn't pay attention to me so I'll make sure that someone else does' syndrome.

At 1/20/08 09:48 PM, LordZeebmork wrote:

At 1/19/08 11:02 PM, OkamiZaku wrote:

Portal-Spammer speaks the truth.

Um, no, you don't.

Annoying!? How about Retr0smash!?

At 1/21/08 05:22 PM, Gustavos wrote:
Well, I don't even know who that Afro guy is. That Adolf Hitler series is actually cool because it was an original idea at the start, and he's going to go all the way to the 496th Pokemon. And more when the next set of 150 or so screwed up creatures come around. The first one I saw was when he caught Weedle. Now, he's already at Feraligator I think.

Original idea? Bullshit, it's based on sevenstar's around the world hitler Flash. So no, it's not even original. It's retarded is what it is.

I don't know about the others, but I'm a respectable idiota where I'm from.

It's dumb to call yourself respectable when you're sitting here bitching about shit you have no reason to bitch about.

Hang on, what does UJ mean?

Under Judgment.

I know you think that were just kids with low levels who don't understand the first thing about anything. Which to a regular person, makes no sense. But nobody can show you any kind of logic in the fact that we're all different humans with different brains, thoughts, and instincts. Just because we don't agree with you, does NOT mean we're retarded.

Newsflash, it's not your level. The fact that you are using Argumentum Ad Nauseum and dodging our points makes you retarded.

What we call "making a point", you call playing crusade. What we call showing our love for the best site ever, you call being an immature kid with no friends.

Your "points" are just you saying, "but, spam exists", which does not, at all, explain how it inconveniences you.

Also, weren't Jerkclock and NEVR the ones who were going to sit back and laugh at our failure? Well, they certainly can show they stick to their word. Nice job hypocrites.

Show us saying we were sitting back and laughing at you and stop maming that asinine and erroneous accusation.

I'm starting to realize some things about this spamming situation. At first I thought the KK were the bad guys, but now I realise that there are individual people who just want to ruin people's time on Newgrounds.

Irrelevant, you still haven't shown how spam inconveniences you.

It only seems that's what the KK want, but they just want to be known by people and are willing to fight to be a great crew on Newgrounds. Better than the Clock Crew even. Or at least that's what some KK members want.

Irrelevant, you still haven't shown how spam inconveniences you.

At 1/21/08 02:24 PM, SoulMaster71 wrote: I don't really care for them, but AfroUnderscoreStud at least always puts them to good music, and really doesn't claim that they're anything that they're not. So they may be a kind of spam, but not the kind that those of us here are pissed off about.

The music sucks, the flashes suck, and I vote zero on them. Fuck protection points; I get enough of them off my own shit anyway.

The only real problem (at least, the one we see, which you obviously do not) is that so much crap passes that many people who love Newgrounds and good Flash wouldn't give a 2 to if their NG membership depended on it. An occasional bad flash here and there isn't terrible, but when
shitty flash after shitty flash gets submitted by the same damn person under so many alts (all those 2008 submissions were in the last 3 days for example), and gets passed, people like me, OkamiZaku, Gustavos, and most of the rest here who are or were anti-KK or anti-spam, people who care deeply about the quality of Flash in the Portal, we get mad, and we make anti-KK news posts, and anti-KK threads like this.

The portal would suck even more without spam groups. Besides, they occasionally make something worth watching. (Advenntuers Of Mareo Man, anyone?)

At 1/21/08 05:13 PM, CuteAndFuzzy wrote: We've already accepted spam as part of newgrounds' culture

Now if only Wade would...

At 1/21/08 05:22 PM, Gustavos wrote: As for individual people who just want to ruin Newgrounds, a great example would be lordZeebMork and his new army of KberKags. He stole accounts and doesn't spam the same way as the KK. He shouldn't be aloud to have an account.

Actually, I'm in the Kitty Krew.

THere are MANY spam subbmissions that are funny out there, but most of them are from the CLock Ckrew. Try typing in clock and things like that in search.

Meh.. I never did understand why people would join the kitty krew or the star syndicate for that matter..

If you are able to animate, why wouldn't you put your skills to better use by creating something funny.. I think I would just be embarassed after a while (for the bad submissions that is)

It really saddens me that with certain artistic talent, you can animate something really amazing. But because you lack actionscripting knowledge, you can't make an awesome game! It is like this with the Krews, most of them have TONS of artistic talent, but do crappy stuff with it that involves spam, and crap.

At 1/21/08 06:50 PM, CuteAndFuzzy wrote:

And you do?

In comparison to him, yes, as a matter a fact I DO, you empty-headed dope. >:(

At 1/22/08 02:41 PM, FatKidWitAJetPak wrote: It really saddens me that with certain artistic talent, you can animate something really amazing. But because you lack actionscripting knowledge, you can't make an awesome game! It is like this with the Krews, most of them have TONS of artistic talent, but do crappy stuff with it that involves spam, and crap.

Actually BFK, Tomylee, and DeadDuck (all admins of the KK) are pretty knowledgable of AS.

At 1/22/08 09:00 AM, jakobhummelen wrote: Meh.. I never did understand why people would join the kitty krew or the star syndicate for that matter..

If you are able to animate, why wouldn't you put your skills to better use by creating something funny.. I think I would just be embarassed after a while (for the bad submissions that is)

Spam is funny, you just have to learn to relax your sphincter

no offense

Examples:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/39 2620
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/42 1359
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/9 5540
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/8 2722
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/40 5987
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/39 5516

Actually BFK, Tomylee, and DeadDuck (all admins of the KK) are pretty knowledgable of AS.

What is AS?

At 1/22/08 05:06 PM, FatKidWitAJetPak wrote:

Actually BFK, Tomylee, and DeadDuck (all admins of the KK) are pretty knowledgable of AS.

What is AS?

Actionscript. Its the scripting you use for flash games.

Oh! Actionscripting, Ok, I didnt; know what the abriviation stood for.

Yeah, I am good with actionscripting.

you all just take the computer too seriously... its an entertainment system not a fucking complaint box