Is Liberia next

[MunkyLibido]

Is Liberia the next country that Goerge Bush will want to take over? I did not support the war in Iraq. yes, I think that we should have attacked Iraq eventually, but this was the wrong time to do it. But I would fully support a decision to take over Liberia. I have seen tapes where it shows the government beating women to death for being raped. I ask you, what is your opinion?

[EvilGovernmentAgents]

At 8/3/03 05:30 PM, dragonbaneisme wrote: Is Liberia the next country that Goerge Bush will want to take over? I did not support the war in Iraq. yes, I think that we should have attacked Iraq eventually, but this was the wrong time to do it. But I would fully support a decision to take over Liberia. I have seen tapes where it shows the government beating women to death for being raped. I ask you, what is your opinion?

I sincerely hope you don't mention the rather ignorant statement that the States invaded Iraq and not North Korea because it had no oil. Please, can you claim to know everything about the two situations? You do have a right to your opinion, which isn't inherently wrong or right. Just stop trying to state it as fact.
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By the way where was I? Oh yeah. What bullshit, you attack a country, and all of a sudden, you turn into a Warmonger. People jump to conclusions too quickly nowadays.

[MunkyLibido]

At 8/3/03 05:42 PM, UNpossible wrote:

At 8/3/03 05:30 PM, dragonbaneisme wrote: Is Liberia the next country that Goerge Bush will want to take over? I did not support the war in Iraq. yes, I think that we should have attacked Iraq eventually, but this was the wrong time to do it. But I would fully support a decision to take over Liberia. I have seen tapes where it shows the government beating women to death for being raped. I ask you, what is your opinion?

I sincerely hope you don't mention the rather ignorant statement that the States invaded Iraq and not North Korea because it had no oil. Please, can you claim to know everything about the two situations? You do have a right to your opinion, which isn't inherently wrong or right. Just stop trying to state it as fact.
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By the way where was I? Oh yeah. What bullshit, you attack a country, and all of a sudden, you turn into a Warmonger. People jump to conclusions too quickly nowadays.

i am not going to include that statement, we did not attack north korea because they had nuclear weapons and it is generally not a good idea to attack someone with nukes. and Where did i claim to know everything about the situations? but i do know enough to state a valid opinion. and i did not state my opinion as a fact in any way, shape, or form. i do agree that you should be able to attack a country without being acused of being a warmonger, but only if you attack the right country at the right time.

[MunkyLibido]

i think the war in Iraq was wrong because it was only for the oil and because it was a way to take the heat off of george for never being able to catch Osama. little known fact: George bush's family made all of their money on oil. so where r the weapons of mass destruction, george? where's sadam? more importantly, where's Osama? Finish what you start george.

[hureya]

Damn this topic has gone sideways rather quickly!

To get back on track we oughtta just roll up our sleeves and take the plunge into Liberia. What's the point of waiting, really? Do we want more people to die?
Anyone read the article in Rolling Stone about it recently?

[phantasm93]

Liberia seems to be a sticky situation; on the one hand, we were specifically asked to come in and offer aid to the people there, but it could be seen as extending "American imperialism" again.

Maybe we should get it in writing that we were asked for?

[karasz]

what is the matter with everyone?

the US is doing something nice for a change, we are sending in troops to end a violent and very bloody civil war in a country the US founded... its a 10 year civil war...

this is the kind of stuff that the US has to do to make us seem like nice people again...

besides every side wants the US in Liberia... so away way we go go

[AbstractVagabond]

So, Liberia is next to be "liberated"?

Sorry. Stuck in my Iraq mode.

Yeah, I'm under the impression we were asked to be involved rather than forcing our way into it. It's an unsettled situation so to say it'll be another war wouldn't be farfetched.

I consider Bush a warmongerer, yes. Anyone who goes to war without proof and without solid reason deserves that label. However, at this moment, unless I get info stating otherwise, I'm with Bush's decision here. And it's for assistance, to my understanding (correct me if I'm wrong). War there will only exist if things get that far out of hand. I feel it won't get that far.

[phantasm93]

At 8/4/03 02:28 AM, BaKsHi wrote: I have to agree 100% with karasz

At 8/3/03 11:12 PM, karasz wrote: what is the matter with everyone?

the US is doing something nice for a change, we are sending in troops to end a violent and very bloody civil war in a country the US founded... its a 10 year civil war...

I'll admit, it would be extremely nice if everything worked out for the best. But since I don't trust my elected officials and since I don't trust that if things don't work out peachy-keen we'll be held up as having tried, I just feel a bit squeamish about it.

Is it a bad situation? I wholeheartedly agree. Should something be done? Again, complete agreement. Will America come out as a defender of freedom and human rights across the globe? I'm not too sure about that.

Basically, it's one of those situations where time will tell. I do think we must do something, but I also think it's important in the wider political scale to be very, very aware of the ramifications of our actions.

[TheTio]

At 8/3/03 05:42 PM, UNpossible wrote:
I sincerely hope you don't mention the rather ignorant statement that the States invaded Iraq and not North Korea because it had no oil. Please, can you claim to know everything about the two situations? You do have a right to your opinion, which isn't inherently wrong or right. Just stop trying to state it as fact.
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By the way where was I? Oh yeah. What bullshit, you attack a country, and all of a sudden, you turn into a Warmonger. People jump to conclusions too quickly nowadays.

What the hell??? was this just a big bout of sarcasm or do you really believe all of this, its hard to discern peoples true meanings on this damn forum, theres not a big difference

Ok anyway, from Dictionary.com there is this
warmonger

n : a person who advocates war or warlike policies

sound like bush?

[Sivak]

http://www.americanactionmarket.org/

A site where you can make bets on what you think the government will do next. Its like the other one, that predicted terrorist actions, but much more useful.

[D2Kvirus]

Avoiding lines such as "the only oil Liberia has is cooking oil, and they don't have much of that", if Bush does flex his small penis to show US might (it's my theory on the guy, OK?), it'd just be having a couple of aircraft carriers stationed offshore, doing jack shit.

Why not? After all, last time the US got involved with Liberia's affairs, that's all they did, after making like they'd sort everything out and be home in time for The Simpsons.

Still, it's funny the French and the UN seem to be doing this strange thing that's called "Getting off their collective ass for something that doesn't have any material gain for them." Strange, I know...

[BootlegJones]

I don't think so. That would be to exsessive.

[Fulpie]

I hate Liberia. The government is corrupt (as in most African countries) and the people are uncivilized and ruthless. However, a substantial part of America's industry lies with Liberia. They make rubber for us, and the cruise line industry usually has their ships registered in Liberia because of the few laws and taxes on the marinas.

[D2Kvirus]

The UK have just offered 500 refugees a place to stay in these green isles of ours, at the exact same time everyone is gnashing their teeth at the dirty foreign refugee scum giving us all TB and stealing our wallets, since the Football Season is on summer break, and they need something new to irrationally bitch about, making no sense whatsoever, and bypassing facts.

Still, it takes the heat off Blair somewhat...at least, it would if he were in the same frickin' hemesphere as us. Ditto 95% of his
Front Bench, actually...

[JMHX]

At 8/4/03 07:36 PM, Sivak wrote: http://www.americanactionmarket.org/

A site where you can make bets on what you think the government will do next. Its like the other one, that predicted terrorist actions, but much more useful.

Replacing one horrible idea with an even more horrible idea. When will people learn that this isn't the thing to do?

[D2Kvirus]

The Malaysian PM today went on the record stating that the US should just be sending regular, non military aid to other nations (specifically the poor ones), rather than something that can be used in conjunction with the word "kilotons" at any specific point, which would mean less warring nations and, therefore, less chance of terrorist groups springing up for various causes.

Meanwhile, US aircraft carriers are casting shadows on the coastline of Liberia, although Liberians themselves strongly believe that they are just for show, and will not get involved themselves, but it saves face when you consider that France and the Un were getting involved back in June, while the US were rattling sabres with Syria, Iran and North Korea. Probably.

There's no point to this, really, but which tactic do you think works better; not supplying arms to poor nations - therefore reducing the liklihood of having them bite you in the ass later in life, or storming in with guns blazing - which'll really cheer them up?

[bumcheekcity]

At 8/9/03 10:15 AM, D2KVirus wrote: The Malaysian PM today went on the record stating that the US should just be sending regular, non military aid to other nations (specifically the poor ones), rather than something that can be used in conjunction with the word "kilotons" at any specific point.

Too true. The US is last in providing non-military aid amongst the western nations, and first in providing military aid.

Kinda Ironic.

[D2Kvirus]

So Taylor goes and...the Rebels are still, you know, doing their rebel thing. OOPS!!! We forgot about the liklihood that we'd create a pwoer vacuum in the country when he left...

[JMHX]

At 8/13/03 10:00 AM, D2KVirus wrote: So Taylor goes and...the Rebels are still, you know, doing their rebel thing. OOPS!!! We forgot about the liklihood that we'd create a pwoer vacuum in the country when he left...

Whoops! *Crowd laughs* George, you forgot about the vacuum! No, not that vacuum, the one in Liberia!

[D2Kvirus]

And, as soon as I say that, the Rebels allow aid to get through, and vacate a sotrage facility where food was being kept in some port or other. Damn!

Still, not up there with my best ever foot/mouth - interface comment: "What an eyesore; It's half full, wasting money to keep it running, so why not just demolish one of them?" Monday, Sept. 27th, 2001. In the plaze at the WTC.

[Ogre13]

I don't really mind Dubya deciding to help Liberia. We're not after anything, or anyone. Achieving peace should be a good goal, but you have to take out the bad elements first. America has been pretty trigger-happy since 9/11. I am not saying that is a bad thing. I think it is great that people are fighting for something they believe in. But, we should choose our fights carefully.

[BootlegJones]

No, cause then Bush would really be screwed, wouldn't he? With all the protesters, and even the ones who aren't (everyone) would think that unneccisary, even I think it wound be, but I'm just rambling about an old topic.

[mikemiller1234]

We didn't attack North Korea, because of the weather conditions. The country get extremely cold. When you fight in strange terrain a lot of death will happpen (Vietname)

[ChaosAllen]

Maybe it's just me, but I thing we sohould just let every other country alone and concentrate on more important things. Instead of having Peacekeepers in Iraq, Germany, Kuwait, Liberia, North Korea, etc., we should just pull them all back and concentrate on more important issues. This country would saves BILLIONS in no time. This money could fund terminal illness research, education, welfare, whatever truly needs it.

I am actually not against fighting to protect our country. But I am against us trying to protect half the damn world. If Liberia has a civil war, it can have fun. We had one of those once ourselves. It's their business, not ours. If other countries have weapons, instead of sending troops we could improve missile defense and training. Something else can assuredly be done besides send American soldiers to Timbucktoo over other people's business.