Is America ready for a...

[jAk88]

Gay, black, female Muslim communist president?

Your thoughts.

[cellardoor6]

At 10/23/07 10:31 PM, jAk88 wrote: Gay

Probably not.

black

Yes.

female

Yes.

Muslim

Yes.

communist president?

Not communist. Communism would go against the grain of our constitution. Electing a President with that political outlook would be self-defeating of the very method that was used to make them president, i.e. using democracy to elect an autocracy.

It would be like voting to have a King or something.

[Camarohusky]

Yes America is ready for a different president. In fact America is ripe for a different president.

Judging by the past 8 years (in no partisan sense whatsoever) nothing has been done, and i hasn't been done because the same type of guy is doing the same type of thing for a country that isn't the same country it used to be.

I whole-heartedly endorse someone different. It would be rgeat for America's morale. The only problem is that the different person would be held to an extremely high standard because they aren't of the type that has been able to keep the country afloat for so long.

On a side note, to all of those who think Islam is inherently violent I have one word for you: Ramadan.

[JoS]

Jesus was lucky to have been born in a time of relative peace, Mohammad was born in a time of war and kill or be killed. Mohammad himself was not a violent man, he was a man in a violent time. Islam is no more violent than Christanity.

[Guardian]

Sure, what the hey.

[Fierce-Deity]

Gay- No. And I hope there will never be a gay president. The last thing we need is for gays to basically become our overlords... because with all the gay rights laws that would be passing, that is pretty close to what would happen.

black- Meh, as long as he isn't all about opening the floodgates of Africa and Mexico, I would be fine with a black president. He just has to have a point of view that isn't all about...... the rights of black people.

female- Once again... we don't need a bunch of feminist bills clouding up my ability to be a male without being crucified. As long as they aren't all about; women need way, way, way, more rights then men, I don't see why not though. PMSing could be a problem though, we would go to war with a country for 3 days or so every month of the year =P

Muslim- The people probably wouldn't accept them, but I see no problem with it.

communist- No, no, and no. A person has to be born in America to be the president, remember?

[Sajberhippien]

At 10/24/07 12:11 AM, chocolate-penguin wrote:

Muslim

No, no, no, no, and absolutely not. Muslims should not be allowed to hold any office. Islam is the worlds most violent religion and is the main cause of violence and tension in the world. People usually don't really look that far into Islam when they hear the famous saying that it is a "religion" of peace, but basically Mohammad was a pedophiliac warlord and vicious hateful murderer who created Islam as a way to unify tribes and kill anyone who did not follow him on his path to conquest the western portion of the middle east.

Oh my... You really know a lot about Islam, do you? And christianity?
I live in Sweden the country in Europe who has the most islamic immigrants in relation to total population. I also have a HUGE interest in religions, especially the abrahamic religions. I have read both the bible and the Koran.
And I would like to ask you: What is it with Islam that is so violent that you can't find in the Bible? Yes, Islam promotes violence in self-defence. Yes, it promotes fighting against the other religions. However, fighting mustn't be violent fighting; when I say "I help fighting cancer", I don't mean that I shoot a tumour. And if you look at the bible, you have genocide several times. Both books state that homosexuals should be killed, as well as witches (and no, saying that Jesus changed it doesn't change anything; a omnibenevolent, omniscient, omnipotent god don't change his opinion). So clearly both the Koran and the Bible has equal nasty bits.

If you look how the religion is practiced, you can of course say that Islam is more violent than christianity. But much of that can be logically explained with the places where many conflicts are have quite fundamentalistic types of governemts. But in northern ireland, catholics are the violent. In africa, many other christians wage war. And Bush himself has several times used God as a motivator for using violence.
You could say that most terrorism is by muslims, but at least in Europe, that would be a total lie. Europol's latest rapport showed that in 2006, 1 of 498 terrorist attacks where had an islamistic cause.

Also, anyone who is going to challenge this, save your breath if you're just going to call me a "racist" or the hilarious term "Islamophobe."

Why is that hilarious? While I don't like the suffix "phobe" to something that isn't purely about fear (such as in hydrophobia), but rather fear-induced disliking that is over the rational, it's still a usable word for the unlogical disliking.

Muslims are already taking control in Europe and Canada and there really is nothing you can do to stop it because whenever people try to stop them from making laws like giving European doctors the right to not treat female patients without veils, or making it so that Muslim bagboys (oh no, I said boys! I'm also now a sexist!") do not have to handle alchoholic beverages in stores, the Muslims funded by the Saudi Arabian government, the Iranian government, and Muslim "charities" sue and bring up a firestorm of shit to whoever opposes the law and hide behind "ethnic profiling".

I'd like a source on that statement with doctors. What country was that in? Still, that a religion spreads isn't more bad than when another religion does the same thing. And since most religions tries to spread it's word and convert I can't see why this is something negative with just the muslims.

What I really don't get is that people continue non-stop to call people like me racists, yet being a Muslim does not have much to do with race anymore other than the fact that it is mostly rooted in the Middle East and Africa. And oh wait--Europe too, shitheads.

Racism is the wrong term, sure. Narrow-minded, unrational, and hateful would be more appropriate.

Have you ever been to a country with lots of muslims that is OUTSIDE the world's hotspots? I've been. Went to Malaysia a year ago. I can tell you that there wasn't many fundamentalists there. They don't even excecute homos! And the muslims celebrated christmas with their christian friends. And this wasn't just what the goverment said; we where on several places, on both the mainland and Borneo, and we spoke to the people there.

So, essentially, everything you have said has been either wrong or irrelevant.

[Britkid]

Lol @ chocolate-penguin's generalising hate speech.

I'd agree with cellardoor mostly, apart from I am not sure that quite a few Americans, such as chocolate-penguin would welcome a Muslim leader. They'd have to be really anti-Islam in their policies.

[Tomsan]

At 10/24/07 05:37 AM, Sajberhippien wrote:

stuff

I am glad someone told him right

I live in Sweden the country in Europe who has the most islamic immigrants in relation to total population.

that was the only flaw in your post. If you click his link you'll see the percentage.

[bcdemon]

At 10/24/07 12:11 AM, chocolate-penguin wrote: Muslims are already taking control in Europe and Canada...

How in the hell do you figure Muslims are taking over in Canada?

[emmytee]

At 10/24/07 12:11 AM, chocolate-penguin wrote:

No, no, no, no, and absolutely not. Muslims should not be allowed to hold any office. Islam is the worlds most violent religion and is the main cause of violence and tension in the world. People usually don't really look that far into Islam when they hear the famous saying that it is a "religion" of peace, but basically Mohammad was a pedophiliac warlord and vicious hateful murderer who created Islam as a way to unify tribes and kill anyone who did not follow him on his path to conquest the western portion of the middle east.

Ever heard of the first testament? Its basically about one desert tribe killing and raping all the others in the name of god. Islam, Judaism and Christianity are all violent faiths by nature and the sooner you stupid fucks can get your head round the fact that your religion is just as bad the sooner you can stop killing innocent people and making yourself seem all superior.

Christianity = violent faith therefore Malcolm X = violent person? No?

[Brick-top]

Nobody knows until it happens. Which is might or might not.

[tony4moroney]

At 10/23/07 10:31 PM, jAk88 wrote:

Gay,

no way

black,

yes, if obama is anything to go by

female

hillary is the democratic front-runner and in polls has a slight edge over ghouliani so yes.

Muslim

definitely no way, nor would america be for any foreseeable time. faux news even tried to make a big parade out of obama's POSSIBLE muslim connections in his childhood.

communist president?

umm.. what?

Your thoughts.

penis

[poxpower]

At 10/24/07 01:04 AM, JoS wrote: he was a man in a violent time.

He just happened to kill hundreds of people. Like Ghandi, another peaceful man in a violent time.

[jAk88]

I didn't ask if each of those groups could become president, I asked if all of those groups bundled up into one black female could become president.

So could a black female who is a homosexual, and also practices Islam and haas communism written all over her become president?

[Brick-top]

Or is America ready for a black lesbian who worships allah? lol

[Cheekyvincent]

At 10/23/07 10:31 PM, jAk88 wrote: Gay, black, female Muslim communist president?

Your thoughts.

Firstly, the statement is an oxymoron- it contradicts itself- its mutually exclusive. Gay muslims arent allowed- punishment- stoning to death. So, she would be killed/assassinated so it wouldnt really be possible. HOWEVER,

gay- it might be- there is a percentage... though homosexuals in america are mainly democrats

black- some people still are racist... though condelizza rice is a good example of a black person in a high position. It could just happen

Female- Yes

Muslim- I don't think so... america still is quite racist

communist- no

[animehater]

At 10/24/07 02:18 PM, Cheekyvincent wrote: Muslim- I don't think so... america still is quite racist

Yay for ignorance.

But on to the main part of my message. IT'S ABOUT HOW GOOD OF A JOB THEY WOULD DO NOT IF THEY ARE A MINORITY OR NOT as many have said.

[ImaSmartass2]

At 10/24/07 05:47 PM, chocolate-penguin wrote:

At 10/24/07 01:04 AM, JoS wrote: Jesus was lucky to have been born in a time of relative peace, Mohammad was born in a time of war and kill or be killed. Mohammad himself was not a violent man, he was a man in a violent time. Islam is no more violent than Christanity.

Islam is no more violent than Christianity? O RLY?

Tell me how many wars in the world are being fought in the name of Christianity, and with Christians being the instigators of violence.

Tell me how many Christian terror groups there are. Probably 1 or 2, the only one some people can even name is the IRA and that is not a threat anymore, nor are they sanctioned by any major Christian church. Muslims are responsible for fighting in many places in the world. Just look at basically every war Israel has ever been in, nearly every hellhole country in Africa, terror groups in the Phillipines. Terror groups in Europe, terror groups in Russia. There are Islamic terror groups that have large influence in almost every continent other than Australia, North America, and surprisingly (wait until you hear this) Antarctica. What you won't hear about places like Darfur is that the "rebels" are fanatical Muslims. What you won't hear about the Black Hawk Down incident in 1991 was that the fighters were Islamic extremists. You hardly ever hear about most of the shit Islamic fanatics cause. Instead, you just get labeled as an Islamophobe and have a 2567447912% higher chance of being beheaded.

Hmmm... How about all 5 Crusades? The Klu Klux Klan, the Aryan Botherhood, Slavery,Wars in Isreal, almost all the Byzantium wars, dumm diddy dum diddy, is that enough for yo if not I will continue Jehovas Wittness, The Watch Tower.That's all I can think of right now, but people will right, you are very narrow-minded Muhammad was a peaceful person contrary to your prejudice believes, I have actually READ the Quran yes it's spelled Q-U-R-A-N not K-O-R-A-N, doesn't matter to me, I am an athiest anyways. Ever since the last 2 decades Amercia has become "Islamphobes" so to speak, your ignorance proves this. Com back with some real information if you want to speak at my level.

"Whoever Speaks Arabic is an Arab" Muhammad

I think this picture proves your prejudicism.

[dodo-man-1]

At 10/24/07 03:46 AM, Fierce-Deity wrote: Gay- No. And I hope there will never be a gay president. The last thing we need is for gays to basically become our overlords... because with all the gay rights laws that would be passing, that is pretty close to what would happen.

Yeah, man. I'm all for the execution of all gays in the universe... just like you, apparently. Because we can't live our lives without knowing that a dude who likes another dude is out there somewhere. And we all know that we can't give gays any rights at all or they'd take over the planet and make us "convert" to gayness.

female- Once again... we don't need a bunch of feminist bills clouding up my ability to be a male without being crucified. As long as they aren't all about; women need way, way, way, more rights then men, I don't see why not though. PMSing could be a problem though, we would go to war with a country for 3 days or so every month of the year =P

Yeah, because women are all about the eradication of all men on the planet. Their species would go extinct, but what do they care? Men are evil and should be killed. Right on the money there, man. And of course, all men would be genetically engineered to have periods when women conquered the Earth.

/sarcasm. I dislike you.

[Oblivia]

We can handle all of those things except the communist part.

[EKublai]

At 10/23/07 10:31 PM, jAk88 wrote: Gay

Unfortunately no.

black

Yes.

female

Yes.

Muslim

Not now.

communist

Only a unanimous sense of undiluted fear would ever make America ready for a communist president, as a result of this election. America would turn into a Communist nation by the will of the people.

president

yes we are.

[2r0x0rs4you]

female, maybe. But if they were gay, IT WOULD BE CALLED THE CHARTRUSE OFFICE. and there would be

CRACK
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LIGHTING
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EVERY
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WHERE!

Meet me in the oral office!

Bibliography=Mind of Mencia.

[Fierce-Deity]

At 10/24/07 08:05 PM, dodo-man-1 wrote:

Yeah, man. I'm all for the execution of all gays in the universe... just like you, apparently. Because we can't live our lives without knowing that a dude who likes another dude is out there somewhere. And we all know that we can't give gays any rights at all or they'd take over the planet and make us "convert" to gayness.

That isn't what I mean... what I mean is that if there is a gay president, a strait couple won't be able to kiss in the streets without the hammer of the government comming down on them with all the "gay rights" laws that would be introduced. Even now, if a gay person sees a strait couple kissing in a workplace and one of them works there, they are going to be fired and sued by the gay guy. The opposite isn't true though. A strait person can't sue a gay couple for offending them. It have never been done, I have checked. A big thanks to our judgmental society for you gifts upon those who aren't gay.

Yeah, because women are all about the eradication of all men on the planet. Their species would go extinct, but what do they care? Men are evil and should be killed. Right on the money there, man. And of course, all men would be genetically engineered to have periods when women conquered the Earth.

Same thing as the gay issue. If a women becomes president, so many womens rights activists groups would finally get their dream of getting even more job preference, even more extra protection under law, etc.

/sarcasm. I dislike you.:

Go ahead and dislike me. My opinion is correct from my point of view, so feel free to dislike it all you want. If you change you agree with me, great. If you don't, you are fully entitled to your opinion.

[Combatd]

At 10/23/07 10:31 PM, jAk88 wrote: Gay, black, female Muslim communist president?

Your thoughts.

Gay- No

Black- maybe

Female-maybe

Muslim- no.

Communist- Definite no.

[jAk88]

Well almost a year later and it looks like we have a gay black Muslim MAN running for President who is probably a communist. Looks like I can tell the future afterall, I just got the gender wrong.

[TimeLordX]

Gay-not quite
Black-Yes
Female-yes
Muslim-no
Communist-Hell no!

[Wegra]

:Gay,
NO!

:black
Maybe

:Female
Yes

:Muslim
Not really

Communist

Probably not

[ThePretenders]

At 10/23/07 10:31 PM, jAk88 wrote: Gay, black, female Muslim communist president?

Your thoughts.

Gay - No. Too many homophobes.
Black - Yes. Obama is in the lead.
Female - Yes. Clinton was a strong contender for the Democratic nomination.
Muslim - No. Too many evangelical Christians.
Communist - No. Goes against American values.

But a gay, black, female Muslim communist president? That would be awesome because she would have broken every barrier but the hypothetical person could secure the presidency.

[Saruman200]

At 10/23/07 10:31 PM, jAk88 wrote: Gay, black, female Muslim communist president?

Your thoughts.

Gay: I wish, but probably not
Black: Yes, Obama is winning
Female: Yah, Palin/Hillary, women can be succesful in politcs
Muslim: Probably not, but I don't see why they're any worse than Christians
Communist: Uh...no, no failed ideology here