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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc 2012-12-01 06:54:11 Reply

West Ham 0 - 0 Chelsea
Arsenal 2 - 1 Swansea
Fulham 2 - 1 Spurs
Liverpool 3 - 2 Southampton
Man City 2 - 2 Everton
QPR 0 - 0 Villa
West Brom 1 - 0 Stoke
Reading 0 - 2 Man Utd
Norwich 1 - 1 Sunderland
Newcastle 3 - 1 Wigan

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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc 2012-12-01 09:51:29 Reply

Just retire, Torres! You are finished.


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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc 2012-12-01 12:56:25 Reply

GOAL - Reading 3-2 Man Utd - Sean Morrison

Why do we even bother


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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc 2012-12-01 13:05:56 Reply

At 12/1/12 12:56 PM, Ejit wrote:
GOAL - Reading 3-2 Man Utd - Sean Morrison
Why do we even bother

Why are you still fucking banned from ng chat. I need to talk about what the fuck is happening in this madness of a game.


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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc 2012-12-03 08:02:24 Reply

Oh look, Norwich win again.

huzzah, not relegation bound.

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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc 2012-12-04 12:05:44 Reply

At 12/3/12 08:02 AM, Markface wrote: Oh look, Norwich win again.

huzzah, not relegation bound.

Sums up how poor the bottom of the PL is.


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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc 2012-12-04 17:41:36 Reply

Week 15 Results (03/12/12)

Rank // Correct Results // Perfect Scores // Weekly Points // Overall Points // Best Weekly Score // Name // Rank Change

01. // 4 // 0 // 04 // 102 // 13 // Sentio 0
02. // 4 // 1 // 06 // 101 // 13 // Dream-of-Duke 0
03. // 5 // 0 // 05 // 098 // 12 // DannyIsOnFire 0
04. // 5 // 0 // 05 // 083 // 10 // HeartbreakHoldout 0
05. // 3 // 0 // 03 // 068 // 10 // Gagsy 0
06. // 4 // 0 // 04 // 044 // 13 // Ejit 0
07. // 0 // 0 // 00 // 007 // 04 // Jonny 0
08. // 0 // 0 // 00 // 005 // 05 // LostFaceInTrain 0

Weekly Highest Score: 6 (Dream-of-Duke)
Highest Score all time: 13 (Sentio - Week 8, Dream-Of-Duke & Ejit - Week 14)
Weekly average score: 4.50
Weekly average highest all time: 8.80 (Week 14)

Maybe he's not just a fluke! DoD gets the highest score again, although in a much less spectacular week than the last. There's not much between everyone's scores, but Sentio's lead is cut to a single point. We may be seeing a new leader by next week!

Outside of the top 3, I have arrested my slump to some extent, and Ejit keeps cutting the gap between himself and the pack.

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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc 2012-12-06 09:11:31 Reply

Lmao Chelsea, Roman must be thinking that Torres is the best striker again after she scored a doubt against a Danish team that I had never heard of before this season's CL.


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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc 2012-12-06 10:12:45 Reply

Well, now Chelsea is officially the very first team to win the CL... and drop out of Group Stage the very next season. So, what's next. Another manager sacked? It's not like Roman is out of money...

I also doubt that Chelsea will do well in the EL. English teams seem to hate that competition.


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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc 2012-12-07 11:53:32 Reply

At 12/6/12 10:12 AM, Haggard wrote: Well, now Chelsea is officially the very first team to win the CL... and drop out of Group Stage the very next season. So, what's next. Another manager sacked? It's not like Roman is out of money...

I also doubt that Chelsea will do well in the EL. English teams seem to hate that competition.

It's true, most see it as more of a punishment than an opportunity. They play reserve sides for as long as they can, and then if they get lucky enough to make it to the latter stages will throw in the first team. It's a shame because there are some good sides in the competition and winning it does have some value. Fighting for top 4 in the league remains the priority though, and right now Chelsea are far from secure in that regard.


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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc 2012-12-07 17:57:27 Reply

It's prediction time!

Arsenal 1 - 1 West Brom
Villa 1 - 0 Stoke
Soton 3 - 2 Reading
Sunderland 1 - 2 Chelsea
Swansea 2 - 2 Norwich
Wigan 2 - 0 QPR
Citeh 1 - 3 United
Everton 2 - 1 Spurs
West Ham 2 - 1 Liverpool
Fulham 1 - 1 Newcastle

+ Super special bonus match!
Sunderland 0 - 1 Reading

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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc 2012-12-08 01:15:27 Reply

At 12/7/12 05:57 PM, HeartbreakHoldout wrote: It's prediction time!
Arsenal 1 - 1 West Brom

Arsenal 2-1 WBA

Villa 1 - 0 Stoke

Villa 1-0 Stoke

Soton 3 - 2 Reading

So'ton 3-2 Reading

Sunderland 1 - 2 Chelsea

Sunderland 1-3 Chelsea

Swansea 2 - 2 Norwich

Swansea 2-0 Norwich

Wigan 2 - 0 QPR

Wigan 1-1 QPR

Citeh 1 - 3 United

Man City 1-0 Man U

Everton 2 - 1 Spurs

Everton 1-1 Spurs

West Ham 2 - 1 Liverpool

West Ham 1-0 Liverpool

Fulham 1 - 1 Newcastle

Fulham 0-0 Newcastle

+ Super special bonus match!
Sunderland 0 - 1 Reading

Sunderland 2-1 Reading


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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc 2012-12-08 02:16:42 Reply

At 12/7/12 05:57 PM, HeartbreakHoldout wrote: It's prediction time!

Is it just me or is this the toughest week yet? Not a single easy pick, and a real dilemma for my weekly banker.

Arsenal 2 - 1 West Brom
Villa 1 - 1 Stoke
Soton 3 - 1 Reading
Sunderland 0 - 1 Chelsea
Swansea 2 - 0 Norwich (currently my banker, but this may change. Can't believe I am also considering Wigan and Southampton...)
Wigan 3 - 1 QPR (in the hope that good Wigan show up today)
Citeh 3 - 2 United
Everton 2 - 2 Spurs
West Ham 1 - 0 Liverpool (brave to predict a Liverpool goal with Suarez suspended....)
Fulham 2 - 0 Newcastle

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Sunderland 1 - 1 Reading


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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc 2012-12-08 07:19:26 Reply

Hmmm...

Arsenal 2 - 1 West Brom
Villa 1 - 1 Stoke
Soton 2 - 2 Reading
Sunderland 1 - 2 Chelsea
Swansea 2 - 0 Norwich
Wigan 1 - 1 QPR
Man City 1 - 2 United
Everton 2 - 1 Spurs
West Ham 1 - 1 Liverpool
Fulham 2 - 1 Newcastle

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Sunderland 0 - 0 Reading


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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc 2012-12-08 09:43:35 Reply

At 12/8/12 02:16 AM, Sentio wrote: (brave to predict a Liverpool goal with Suarez suspended....)

I think without a recognised striker in the team, it will give Stewart Downing a chance to prove his skills as a centre forward...

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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc 2012-12-08 09:49:06 Reply

Arsenal 2 - 1 West Brom
Villa 1 - 1 Stoke
Soton 2 - 2 Reading
Sunderland 0 - 1 Chelsea
Swansea 1 - 1 Norwich
Wigan 0 - 0 QPR
Citeh 1 - 1 United
Everton 0 - 2 Spurs
West Ham 0 - 1 Liverpool
Fulham 2 - 1 Newcastle
+ ""Super"" special bonus match!
Sunderland 1 - 2 Reading


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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc 2012-12-09 10:04:05 Reply

Mancini is a joke.


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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc 2012-12-09 13:22:41 Reply

At 12/9/12 10:04 AM, Dream-of-Duke wrote: Mancini is a joke.

Why are you so constantly negative? Every thread you post in is bitching and whining over and over again about one individual or one team... yet never giving credit when they do something right. In case you forgot, City won the title last year for the first time in an eternity, despite you constantly deriding the manager. If anyone is a joke it is you.

I watched today's game. For long periods City were the better team, and United relied heavily on the counter attack. City were ahead in all stats except the one that really counted. I would have liked to see them play with more width, but City aren't blessed with wingers, and playing through the centre has seen them unbeaten at home for over two years until today. The game could easily have gone the other way. Mancini did little wrong with his changes- Kompany getting injured was a major blow, but that isn't his fault. Tevez coming on changed the game. Certainly his conduct was better than that of Ferguson for me- his comments about City getting penalties at home this week were pathetic and a clear attempt to bias the referee.

In short.... shut the fuck up already, or actually try and use some brain cells when you post rather than just ranting.


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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc 2012-12-10 10:07:08 Reply

Mancini hasn't had a good season so far though, really. Apart from the champion's league failure and being behind in the title race, though in contention, City's transfers in the Summer are looking pretty appalling. De Jong was sold for 3 million, and Garcia bought for 18. Nastasic seems to have been a decent signing, but was hardly a bargain, which seems to defeat the object of putting faith in such a young player in a position that is generally perceived to require experience. Why buy Sinclair and Rodwell? I know money isn't much of an object, but neither of these are outstanding players. You'd expect to be able to find players of a similar quality for much less if you were to encourage some semblance of a scouting policy. Man Utd and Chelsea spent an awful lot too, but actually managed to improve their first team in the process.

Selections have been a bit odd too. I don't buy into the idea that Barry is a football player, and Lescott seemed to do quite well last season, at least well enough to play ahead of Kolo Toure.

Anyway, I remain convinced that Dembele and Bale playing in the same team, in front of a defence that includes the faces of Kaboul and Assou-Ekotto, will tear the title race wide open next year. Just replace Lennon in January, is all. Willian would certainly do.

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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc 2012-12-10 12:57:46 Reply

At 12/10/12 10:07 AM, Ejit wrote: Mancini hasn't had a good season so far though, really. Apart from the champion's league failure and being behind in the title race, though in contention, City's transfers in the Summer are looking pretty appalling. De Jong was sold for 3 million, and Garcia bought for 18. Nastasic seems to have been a decent signing, but was hardly a bargain, which seems to defeat the object of putting faith in such a young player in a position that is generally perceived to require experience. Why buy Sinclair and Rodwell? I know money isn't much of an object, but neither of these are outstanding players. You'd expect to be able to find players of a similar quality for much less if you were to encourage some semblance of a scouting policy. Man Utd and Chelsea spent an awful lot too, but actually managed to improve their first team in the process.

Selections have been a bit odd too. I don't buy into the idea that Barry is a football player, and Lescott seemed to do quite well last season, at least well enough to play ahead of Kolo Toure.

I agree with a lot of that. My objection is one line rants every single week saying the same meaningless tripe. It isn't contributing to conversation in any way, and is frankly just spam. And this is in virtually every sports thread in C&C...

The main issue for City for me is a lack of width. They play like Barcelona, constantly trying to play through the centre, when in Dzeko they have one of the very best 'big' forwards in the league. Teams are starting to stop Barce with a packed defence (ala Celtic), and City are suffering in the same way. Young and Valencia in contrast tore CIty to shreds at the other end with pace and good balls into the box. Why City persist in so many 'defensive' midfielders is utterly beyond me, and only the class of their strikers and Silva are breaking teams down.

Mancini is a class manager though, his league record doesn't lie. Just too 'Italian' (defensive) for the Premier League.

Interestingly while I don't see Spurs maintaining a title challenge any time in the future, their tactics with two wingers are exactly what I think City should employ.


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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc 2012-12-11 17:28:22 Reply

Week 16 Results (11/12/12)

Rank // Correct Results // Perfect Scores // Weekly Points // Overall Points // Best Weekly Score // 5 Week Average // Name // Rank Change

01. // 7 // 2 // 11 // 109 // 12 // 5.4 // DannyIsOnFire +2
02. // 5 // 1 // 07 // 108 // 13 // 6.8 // Dream-of-Duke 0
03. // 5 // 0 // 05 // 107 // 13 // 4.6 // Sentio -2
04. // 4 // 1 // 06 // 089 // 10 // 4.8 // HeartbreakHoldout 0
05. // 0 // 0 // 00 // 068 // 10 // 2.2 // Gagsy 0
06. // 6 // 1 // 08 // 052 // 13 // 6.6 // Ejit 0
07. // 0 // 0 // 00 // 007 // 04 // 0.0 // Jonny 0
08. // 0 // 0 // 00 // 005 // 05 // 0.0 // LostFaceInTrain 0

Weekly Highest Score: 11 (DannyIsOnFire)
Highest Score all time: 13 (Sentio - Week 8, Dream-Of-Duke & Ejit - Week 14)
Weekly average score: 7.40
Weekly average highest all time: 8.80 (Week 14)

Right, just so you know, I've added a 5 week average to the prediction table as sort of form indicator. Currently it shows why DoD is challenging at the top, and why Ejit is only 4 points from overtaking Gagsy.

I had predicted that Sentio might not be at the top of the table come this week but, while DoD does overtake him, he does not take 1st place. Danny ends his recent slump with a solid score of 11 and takes the top spot as a result.

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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc 2012-12-12 13:02:09 Reply

At 12/11/12 05:28 PM, HeartbreakHoldout wrote:
Right, just so you know, I've added a 5 week average to the prediction table as sort of form indicator. Currently it shows why DoD is challenging at the top, and why Ejit is only 4 points from overtaking Gagsy.

I had predicted that Sentio might not be at the top of the table come this week but, while DoD does overtake him, he does not take 1st place. Danny ends his recent slump with a solid score of 11 and takes the top spot as a result.

I've been utter garbage lately- I can't get a perfect score to save my life! I did this last season though- a fast start, a terrible middle, then a fast finish, so hopefully I'm pulling the same trick again. It's hurting me even more in my Talksport predictor though- 5 consecutive weeks with no points gain at all!


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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc 2012-12-12 16:37:56 Reply

At 12/11/12 05:28 PM, HeartbreakHoldout wrote: 05. // 0 // 0 // 00 // 068 // 10 // 2.2 // Gagsy 0
06. // 6 // 1 // 08 // 052 // 13 // 6.6 // Ejit 0
Right, just so you know, I've added a 5 week average to the prediction table as sort of form indicator. Currently it shows why DoD is challenging at the top, and why Ejit is only 4 points from overtaking Gagsy.

Hey, bozo! You know, for someone good at maths you really suck at maths.

The average thing is a good idea though :~)

I had predicted that Sentio might not be at the top of the table come this week but, while DoD does overtake him, he does not take 1st place. Danny ends his recent slump with a solid score of 11 and takes the top spot as a result.

Well, it's certainly more exciting than the Best League in the World.


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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc 2012-12-12 18:13:05 Reply

At 12/12/12 04:37 PM, Ejit wrote: Hey, bozo! You know, for someone good at maths you really suck at maths.

I meant 4 squared, obviously. Also, shut up >:(

The average thing is a good idea though :~)

Goodness knows if it's accurate...

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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc 2012-12-14 04:55:25 Reply

Gots to do this now because I'll be horribly hungover and forget tomorrow. Also the Toon Army need some help, fast.

Newcastle United 1 v 3 Manchester City
Manchester United 3 v 0 Sunderland
Stoke City 1 v 1 Everton
Norwich City 1 v 0 Wigan Athletic
Queens Park Rangers 0 v 2 Fulham

Liverpool 2 v 0 Aston Villa
Tottenham Hotspur 2 v 1 Swansea City
West Bromwich Albion 2 v 2 West Ham United

Reading 0 v 2 Arsenal


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At 12/14/12 04:55 AM, DannyIsOnFire wrote: Gots to do this now because I'll be horribly hungover and forget tomorrow. Also the Toon Army need some help, fast.

Newcastle United 0 v 2 Manchester City
Manchester United 4 v 0 Sunderland
Stoke City 0 v 0 Everton
Norwich City 2 v 0 Wigan Athletic
Queens Park Rangers 1 v 2 Fulham

Liverpool 2 v 0 Aston Villa
Tottenham Hotspur 3 v 1 Swansea City
West Bromwich Albion 2 v 1 West Ham United

Reading 0 v 3 Arsenal

Some much better looking games to predict this week, with some big fish up against minnows. Not to mention some teams needing a response to embarassing results *cough* Arsenal *cough*.

At least one perfect score amongst them and I'll be happy. Please?


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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc 2012-12-14 11:32:14 Reply

So you want a long explanation why I think that Mancini is a joke and should be sacked? I will give you one.
When you have a team like Man City, you DO NOT finish winless in the CL group stage, it does not matter how difficult the group is. Hell, I think that they should win at least a couple there even if they did not have a manager. Oh, by the way, Mancini never does well in the CL as a manager and always find a way to lose to lesser teams. In other words, he is just not a big stage manager.
In addition, his selection is often awful. Take the Manchester Derby for example, can anyone give me a reasonable explanation why he picked Balotelli over Tevez? Surely Balotelli did well against Man U last season, but it was LAST season. Let's be all honest, Balotelli has been awful this season whereas Tevez has been City's best striker. So anyone with a brain cell should see what the right decision is. Obviously, Mancini realized the mistake and took his love child Balotelli out early in the second half for Tevez, but City were already down 0-2 at that point.
Taking about love child, Mancini is also terrible at controlling the dressing room. Kolo Toure, Dzeko, Milner, Tevez and Kolalov all have/had problems with him, surely City's superstars have a lot of ego, but Mancini's actions and words only make matters worse.
Man City would run away with the league title every season with JoMo or Pep in charge. Hell, any decent manager would have done much better than Roberto "the weak link" Mancini. Mancini is a joke and deserves to be sacked, end of the discussion.


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At 12/14/12 11:32 AM, Dream-of-Duke wrote: So you want a long explanation why I think that Mancini is a joke and should be sacked? I will give you one.
When you have a team like Man City, you DO NOT finish winless in the CL group stage, it does not matter how difficult the group is. Hell, I think that they should win at least a couple there even if they did not have a manager. Oh, by the way, Mancini never does well in the CL as a manager and always find a way to lose to lesser teams. In other words, he is just not a big stage manager.
In addition, his selection is often awful. Take the Manchester Derby for example, can anyone give me a reasonable explanation why he picked Balotelli over Tevez? Surely Balotelli did well against Man U last season, but it was LAST season. Let's be all honest, Balotelli has been awful this season whereas Tevez has been City's best striker. So anyone with a brain cell should see what the right decision is. Obviously, Mancini realized the mistake and took his love child Balotelli out early in the second half for Tevez, but City were already down 0-2 at that point.
Taking about love child, Mancini is also terrible at controlling the dressing room. Kolo Toure, Dzeko, Milner, Tevez and Kolalov all have/had problems with him, surely City's superstars have a lot of ego, but Mancini's actions and words only make matters worse.
Man City would run away with the league title every season with JoMo or Pep in charge. Hell, any decent manager would have done much better than Roberto "the weak link" Mancini. Mancini is a joke and deserves to be sacked, end of the discussion.

There we go, was that so hard? That is actually a constructive post from which we can actually have a discussion rather than pointless spam.

And as I said, I actually agree with a lot of that. I don't think all of the blame can be on Mancini in Europe- the player's have to take some responsibility, and he certainly was picking strong lineups throughout the competition. His record is poor though, no denying that.

Balotelli is a more difficult issue for me. Clearly Mancini wanted to expose the United weakness from set pieces and needed a tall striker as a threat. Balotelli played that role brilliantly last season and throughout the European Championships. There is also a debate that Aguero and Tevez are similar players and thus shouldn't play together. So starting him wasn't a completely stupid decision, and at least he did the right thing in hauling him off when he realised it wasn't working.

I still maintain that Mancini is a good manager who has had a lot of domestic success in his career. Not everything he does is terrible, and he has certainly done enough right to end City's trophy drought over the last two seasons.

This isn't just an issue I have with your opinions, but with many football fans opinions- too much blame is placed on managers and not enough on players. I could name half a dozen City players who simply aren't trying hard enough or playing well enough currently. Not all of this is Mancini's fault, and these players should be punished appropriately (dock their wages or drop them/sell them...). I teach students just like this, and I can say with confidence that their failure is NOT my fault. I'd be seriously pissed if I was fired because they were lazy shits. So blaming the manager every time a team plays badly isn't right in my opinion.

And thus we have a grown up discussion...


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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc 2012-12-15 01:53:45 Reply

Newcastle 1-2 Man City
Chelsea 3-0 Southampton
Liverpool 2-0 Villa
Man U 3-0 Sunderland
Norwich 2-1 Wigan
QPR 1-0 Fulham
Stoke 1-1 Everton
Tottenham 3-2 Swansea
WBA 1-1 West Ham
Reading 1-3 Arsenal


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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc 2012-12-15 04:19:19 Reply

At 12/15/12 01:53 AM, Dream-of-Duke wrote:
Chelsea 3-0 Southampton

I will declare you the prediction champion right here and now if that one comes through....


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