At 12/14/12 11:32 AM, Dream-of-Duke wrote:
So you want a long explanation why I think that Mancini is a joke and should be sacked? I will give you one.
When you have a team like Man City, you DO NOT finish winless in the CL group stage, it does not matter how difficult the group is. Hell, I think that they should win at least a couple there even if they did not have a manager. Oh, by the way, Mancini never does well in the CL as a manager and always find a way to lose to lesser teams. In other words, he is just not a big stage manager.
In addition, his selection is often awful. Take the Manchester Derby for example, can anyone give me a reasonable explanation why he picked Balotelli over Tevez? Surely Balotelli did well against Man U last season, but it was LAST season. Let's be all honest, Balotelli has been awful this season whereas Tevez has been City's best striker. So anyone with a brain cell should see what the right decision is. Obviously, Mancini realized the mistake and took his love child Balotelli out early in the second half for Tevez, but City were already down 0-2 at that point.
Taking about love child, Mancini is also terrible at controlling the dressing room. Kolo Toure, Dzeko, Milner, Tevez and Kolalov all have/had problems with him, surely City's superstars have a lot of ego, but Mancini's actions and words only make matters worse.
Man City would run away with the league title every season with JoMo or Pep in charge. Hell, any decent manager would have done much better than Roberto "the weak link" Mancini. Mancini is a joke and deserves to be sacked, end of the discussion.
There we go, was that so hard? That is actually a constructive post from which we can actually have a discussion rather than pointless spam.
And as I said, I actually agree with a lot of that. I don't think all of the blame can be on Mancini in Europe- the player's have to take some responsibility, and he certainly was picking strong lineups throughout the competition. His record is poor though, no denying that.
Balotelli is a more difficult issue for me. Clearly Mancini wanted to expose the United weakness from set pieces and needed a tall striker as a threat. Balotelli played that role brilliantly last season and throughout the European Championships. There is also a debate that Aguero and Tevez are similar players and thus shouldn't play together. So starting him wasn't a completely stupid decision, and at least he did the right thing in hauling him off when he realised it wasn't working.
I still maintain that Mancini is a good manager who has had a lot of domestic success in his career. Not everything he does is terrible, and he has certainly done enough right to end City's trophy drought over the last two seasons.
This isn't just an issue I have with your opinions, but with many football fans opinions- too much blame is placed on managers and not enough on players. I could name half a dozen City players who simply aren't trying hard enough or playing well enough currently. Not all of this is Mancini's fault, and these players should be punished appropriately (dock their wages or drop them/sell them...). I teach students just like this, and I can say with confidence that their failure is NOT my fault. I'd be seriously pissed if I was fired because they were lazy shits. So blaming the manager every time a team plays badly isn't right in my opinion.
And thus we have a grown up discussion...