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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc Nov. 22nd, 2012 @ 12:29 PM Reply

At 11/21/12 03:14 PM, Gagsy wrote: A couple of things..

The only thing I disagree with amidst all of that is the fact that Chelsea are winning trophies despite hiring and firing managers at will. Obviously we will never know for sure, but with the resources at hand they should have won far more than they have in that time. They have massively outspent Arsenal, and most of that time was pre City, so only United stood between them and most trophies. To only win 10 in 11 years isn't that great when put like that, and I remain convinced that had Jose stayed they would have close to double that.

When he left they were the dominant force in England, and a threat in Europe. They were winning a couple of trophies a season and sweeping all before them. Now Chelsea are the third best side in England, and a distance behind the Manchester sides if last season is anything to go by.

Benitez is a dreadful appointment as well. A poor manager who got lucky at Liverpool and who has done worse than nothing since. Managers don't stay out of work two years unless there are serious issues. Add to that the understandable hatred from Chelsea fans and this makes even less sense. The only saving grace is that he has a track record of getting the best from Torres, and this smacks of Roman desperately trying to justify his foolish buy and find any way to make him the player he was. In the end that single purchase is the worst thing Chelsea have done in recent years, and that was all Roman.


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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc Nov. 22nd, 2012 @ 02:30 PM Reply

At 11/22/12 12:29 PM, Sentio wrote:
The only thing I disagree with amidst all of that is the fact that Chelsea are winning trophies despite hiring and firing managers at will. Obviously we will never know for sure, but with the resources at hand they should have won far more than they have in that time. They have massively outspent Arsenal, and most of that time was pre City, so only United stood between them and most trophies. To only win 10 in 11 years isn't that great when put like that, and I remain convinced that had Jose stayed they would have close to double that.

Steady now.

Had Mourinho stayed I don't doubt that we would have won more but to think we could have gotten around 20 trophies in that space of time is a bit of a stretch really. When you think 10 trophies in 9 years (Roman came in 2003 after all), thats a great return that only the likes of Man U can match. And I think they may have one less though I probably am wrong there and United with SAF at the helm are a special breed. Anyway that 10 in that space of time is an awesome return, no matter how many managers is took to get there. Yes I wish we could stick to one, because you just don't know who to get attached to and it adds stability and god sometimes I wonder what our current squad would look that had we still had Mourinho or Ancelotti doing the job for the long haul. But considering everything, we do win more trophies by our owner being fickle with coaches. Its sad but true.

When he left they were the dominant force in England, and a threat in Europe. They were winning a couple of trophies a season and sweeping all before them. Now Chelsea are the third best side in England, and a distance behind the Manchester sides if last season is anything to go by.

I also don't think we're that far behind ether Manchester side. Its long overdue that United get found out for the subpar squad they have this season (bar upfront) and City, well there are obvious issues in the dressing room. If we had a consistent goal scorer up front and Luiz woke up and realised what a defender is actually meant to do then we'd be a much better side, maybe still top of the table. Our problems could be fixed as early as January, but the likes of Falcao or someone as equally dangerous up front joining our ranks then are looking more and more distant now the man who got the very best out of El Nino is in charge.

Add to that the understandable hatred from Chelsea fans and this makes even less sense.

I'm glad you've said that. I've so many negative comments online over the last day about us Chelsea fans being UNGRATEFUL about Benitez being in and how that makes us arrogant fans and too proud and its like.. do you even get why we hate him so much? It is like digging the knife in deeper really.

But I agree about the Torres thing as much as I hate to admit it. Us Chelsea fans, we've been patience (we've had to be), but its just not happening with him. We can't deny it much longer. And exactly the same thing is happening now like it did with Shevchenko. Bought in by Roman, not wanted by the manager at the time (Jose) and that damaged the working relationship beyond repair when the signing flopped. We lost the best manager we ever had, or likely ever will and now its a bit of history repeating. Only every single chance for Torres to shine has been given to him. The team is shaped to suit his style. He is playing like every game (bar mid week). And he's just not delivering. Now another manager is gone, the one we've been happiest with since like Hiddink came in to lend a hand and if IF Rafa was bought in mainly just to get Torres scoring again I just don't know what to think about Roman. A stubborn a fool as any. Needs to remember that he may be the owner but he isn't the coach. That he should leave the footballing decisions completely to the one he pays to do them.

Give it 5 years, when Chelsea have been through every 'top' manager Europe has to offer and don't be surprised to see Mr
Abramovich at the dugout himself.

:(

Time to support Steve Clarke at West Brom for a bit me thinks.

Anyway, at least jokes can always cheer me up;

"It's predicted that by 2025 you'll be no more than six feet away from an ex-Chelsea manager."

"Chelsea are to begin recognising the success of their coaching staff with their very own 'Manager of the Month' award."

"I've been thinking about getting some short term work over the Christmas period.
So I decided to apply for the Chelsea job."

"First Premier League manager sacked.
QPR can't even win that."

"Roberto Di Matteo sacked by Chelsea.
Apparently the decision was made after the team's failure to win Wimbledon, the Grand National and bring home any Gold medals from the Olympics."

And a Liverpool one cause I'm always in that kind of mood.

"How many Liverpool fans does it take to screw in a light bulb?
None, they just sit around reminiscing about the last one."


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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc Nov. 22nd, 2012 @ 06:35 PM Reply

Week 12 Results (19/11/12)

Rank // Correct Results // Perfect Scores // Weekly Points // Overall Points // Best Weekly Score // Name // Rank Change

01. // 2 // 0 // 02 // 086 // 13 // Sentio 0
02. // 2 // 0 // 02 // 084 // 12 // DannyIsOnFire 0
03. // 3 // 0 // 03 // 077 // 11 // Dream-of-Duke 0
04. // 4 // 1 // 06 // 071 // 10 // HeartbreakHoldout 0
05. // 3 // 0 // 03 // 060 // 10 // Gagsy 0
06. // 0 // 0 // 00 // 019 // 07 // Ejit 0
07. // 0 // 0 // 00 // 007 // 04 // Jonny 0
08. // 0 // 0 // 00 // 005 // 05 // LostFaceInTrain 0

Weekly Highest Score: 6 (HeartbreakHoldout)
Highest Score all time: 13 (Sentio - Week 8)
Weekly average score: 3.20
Weekly average highest all time: 8.60 (Week 6)

Man what a terrible week for everyone! I get the highest score this week, but if I'd have got this score last week I'd still have been the lowest scorer, and I only managed the score I did thanks to the last fixture of the week. In a week of poor results, though, the poorest results were had by Sentio and DannyIsOnFire at the top, so everyone else who submitted predictions closes the gap on them (by a tiny, tiny amount)!

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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc Nov. 23rd, 2012 @ 01:11 PM Reply

At 11/22/12 06:35 PM, HeartbreakHoldout wrote:
Man what a terrible week for everyone! I get the highest score this week, but if I'd have got this score last week I'd still have been the lowest scorer, and I only managed the score I did thanks to the last fixture of the week. In a week of poor results, though, the poorest results were had by Sentio and DannyIsOnFire at the top, so everyone else who submitted predictions closes the gap on them (by a tiny, tiny amount)!

There were just too many strange results, though I do think I should earn bonus points for saying the only game I was confident of getting right was City beating Villa, and that very nearly turned out to be the only game I DID get right! International weeks really screw up the status quo.

And does anyone else think that QPR were just waiting for someone else to get fired before getting rid of Hughes, just to avoid the inevitable negative headlines of not giving managers enough time? Seems strange to wait almost a week since their last game to make a decision everyone already knew was coming- the only thing that has changed in that time is that Chelsea have monopolised the back pages. Looks like Harry will be back, and what a job! It is virtually impossible to take that team any lower!

Predictions later- dinner time!


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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc Nov. 23rd, 2012 @ 05:21 PM Reply

At 11/23/12 01:11 PM, Sentio wrote:
Predictions later- dinner time!

Ok, here we go. This week HAS to be better....

Sunderland 1-2 WBA
Everton 2-0 Norwich
Man Utd 4-0 QPR (banker of the week!)
Stoke City 0-0 Reading
Wigan 1-1 Reading
Aston Villa 0-2 Arsenal
Swansea 2-1 Liverpool
Southampton 2-1 Newcastle
Chelsea 2-2 Man City
Tottenham 2-0 West Ham

Taken a few gambles this week as trying to stick to form isn't doing me much good.


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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc Nov. 23rd, 2012 @ 05:40 PM Reply

At 11/23/12 05:21 PM, Sentio wrote: Stoke City 0-0 Reading
Wigan 1-1 Reading

Taken a few gambles this week as trying to stick to form isn't doing me much good.

Is that one of the gambles you're talking about?

Sunderland 1 - 1 WBA
Everton 3 - 1 Norwich
Man Utd 3 - 1 QPR
Stoke City 2 - 2 Fulham
Wigan 0 - 1 Reading
Aston Villa 0 - 2 Arsenal
Swansea 2 - 2 Liverpool
Southampton 1 - 2 Newcastle
Chelsea 2 - 1 Man City
Tottenham 0 - 1 West Ham

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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc Nov. 23rd, 2012 @ 06:09 PM Reply

At 11/23/12 05:40 PM, HeartbreakHoldout wrote:
At 11/23/12 05:21 PM, Sentio wrote: Stoke City 0-0 Reading
Wigan 1-1 Reading

Taken a few gambles this week as trying to stick to form isn't doing me much good.
Is that one of the gambles you're talking about?

Ha, no! Wine clearly isn't good for my typing skills... I was thinking more predicting against Liverpool and Newcastle, as well as backing West Brom to win away from home. Of course if Reading do pick up two away draws I think that is worth some extra points!!


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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc Nov. 24th, 2012 @ 12:35 AM Reply

Sunderland 1-0 WBA
Everton 2-1 Norwich
Man U 4-0 QPR
Stoke 1-1 Fulham
Wigan 2-1 Reading
Villa 0-2 Arsenal
Swansea 1-0 Liverpool
Southampton 2-2 Newcastle
Chelsea 2-1 Man City
Tottenham 3-1 West Ham


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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc Nov. 24th, 2012 @ 06:45 AM Reply

Sunderland 1 - 2 WBA
Everton 1 - 1 Norwich
Man Utd 5 - 0 QPR

We were bottom of the league when I come in

Stoke City 3 - 1 Fulham
Wigan 1 - 1 Reading
Aston Villa 2 - 2 Arsenal
Swansea 1 - 2 Liverpool
Southampton 1 - 1 Newcastle
Chelsea 2 - 2 Man City
Tottenham 1 - 1 West Ham


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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc Nov. 24th, 2012 @ 07:43 AM Reply

Sunderland 1 - 2 WBA
Everton 2 - 0 Norwich
Man Utd 4 - 0 QPR
Stoke City 2 - 1 Fulham
Wigan 1 - 0 Reading
Aston Villa 0 - 2 Arsenal
Swansea 1 - 2 Liverpool
Southampton 1 - 3 Newcastle
Chelsea 2 - 0 Man City (really think 3-1 City)
Tottenham 2 - 1 West Ham


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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc Nov. 24th, 2012 @ 09:45 AM Reply

WBA is for real...


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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc Nov. 24th, 2012 @ 07:48 PM Reply

Went to a wedding last night and was literally too hungover today to make any predictions. Guess I'm gonna have to earn my points on Sunday's games.

Swansea 2-1 Liverpool
Southampton 1-2 Newcastle
Chelsea 1-3 Man City
Tottenham 2-0 West Ham


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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc Nov. 25th, 2012 @ 06:00 AM Reply

At 11/24/12 07:48 PM, DannyIsOnFire wrote: Went to a wedding last night and was literally too hungover today to make any predictions. Guess I'm gonna have to earn my points on Sunday's games.

Looking at the scores as they stand this week, you really aren't too far behind the pace...

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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc Nov. 27th, 2012 @ 07:04 AM Reply

Sunderland 0-1 QPR
Villa 2-1 Reading
Southampton 1-1 Norwich
Stoke 1-1 Newcastle
Swansea 2-1 WBA
Tottenham 2-1 Liverpool
Chelsea 2-0 Fulham
Everton 3-2 Arsenal
Man U 3-1 West Ham
Wigan 0-2 Man City


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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc Nov. 27th, 2012 @ 07:20 AM Reply

Tuesday night games
Sunderland 0-1 QPR
Villa 2-1 Reading


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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc Nov. 27th, 2012 @ 08:43 AM Reply

So'ton 1-1 Norwich
Stoke 1-1 Newcastle
Swansea 2-1 WBA
Tottenham 2-1 Liverpool
Chelsea 2-0 Fulham
Everton 2-2 Arsenal
Man U 3-1 West Ham
Wigan 0-2 Man City


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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc Nov. 27th, 2012 @ 11:40 AM Reply

Just so you know DoD you don't get double points for posting predictions twice...

Sunderland 1-2 QPR
Villa 0-0 Reading
Southampton 2-1 Norwich
Stoke 1-0 Newcastle
Swansea 0-1 WBA
Tottenham 3-1 Liverpool
Chelsea 2-1 Fulham
Everton 2-2 Arsenal
Man U 3-0 West Ham
Wigan 0-2 Man City

Yet again some really tough calls this time around. Man Utd are once again my banker, but I am not confident of any of these results. Too many bad sides are showing better form at the moment (Southampton... Villa... Norwich....), while good teams are letting leads slip and losing (Everton... Newcastle... Liverpool...)


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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc Nov. 27th, 2012 @ 02:25 PM Reply

Sunderland 0-0 QPR
Villa 1-1 Reading


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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc Nov. 27th, 2012 @ 03:52 PM Reply

Fucking surprise midweek fixtures!

Week 13 Results (25/11/12)

Rank // Correct Results // Perfect Scores // Weekly Points // Overall Points // Best Weekly Score // Name // Rank Change

01. // 5 // 0 // 05 // 091 // 13 // Sentio 0
02. // 1 // 0 // 01 // 085 // 12 // DannyIsOnFire 0
03. // 3 // 1 // 05 // 082 // 11 // Dream-of-Duke 0
04. // 2 // 1 // 04 // 075 // 10 // HeartbreakHoldout 0
05. // 5 // 0 // 05 // 065 // 10 // Gagsy 0
06. // 6 // 1 // 08 // 027 // 08 // Ejit 0
07. // 0 // 0 // 00 // 007 // 04 // Jonny 0
08. // 0 // 0 // 00 // 005 // 05 // LostFaceInTrain 0

Weekly Highest Score: 8 (Ejit)
Highest Score all time: 13 (Sentio - Week 8)
Weekly average score: 4.67
Weekly average highest all time: 8.60 (Week 6)

Our highest scorer this week, with 8, is Ejit. The gap between Gagsy and him is now only 38 points, so Gagsy must really be feeling the heat! As Danny didn't submit a full set of predictions, Sentio extends his lead at the top of the table to 6 points. Yet again I am the lowest scorer out of those who submitted a full set of predictions...

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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc Nov. 27th, 2012 @ 05:47 PM Reply

Forgot all about the midweek fixtures, more points dropped >:(

So'ton 1-0 Norwich
Stoke 2-1 Newcastle
Swansea 2-2 WBA
Tottenham 2-1 Liverpool
Chelsea 2-0 Fulham
Everton 1-2 Arsenal
Man U 2-0 West Ham
Wigan 0-3 Man City


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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc Nov. 28th, 2012 @ 03:29 AM Reply

At 11/27/12 03:52 PM, HeartbreakHoldout wrote: Our highest scorer this week, with 8, is Ejit. The gap between Gagsy and him is now only 38 points, so Gagsy must really be feeling the heat!

I feel there's been too much focus on the size of the task ahead of us of which we are all aware and not enough on the gap we have opened up on Jonny with our spirited and highly impressive performances of late

Thanks for tallying, I'm going to have to post predictions for today later, hope it's ok.


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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc Nov. 28th, 2012 @ 12:50 PM Reply

So'ton 1-1 Norwich
Stoke 1-2 Newcastle
Swansea 2-0 WBA
Tottenham 3-1 Liverpool
Chelsea 2-0 Fulham
Everton 2-2 Arsenal
Man U 2-1 West Ham
Wigan 0-2 Man City


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So'ton 2 - 1 Norwich
Stoke 1 - 0 Newcastle
Swansea 1 - 1 WBA
Tottenham 1 - 1 Liverpool
Chelsea 1 - 0 Fulham
Everton 2 - 0 Arsenal
Man U 3 - 2 West Ham
Wigan 1 - 4 Man City

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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc Nov. 28th, 2012 @ 04:16 PM Reply

That was a very funny own goal by Bale, to be honest.


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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc Nov. 30th, 2012 @ 12:08 PM Reply

At 11/27/12 05:47 PM, DannyIsOnFire wrote: Forgot all about the midweek fixtures, more points dropped >:(

Well I did the honourable thing and got no points in those two fixtures despite having made predictions. Remember that later in the season!

And so here we go again...

West Ham 0-1 Chelsea
Arsenal 3-2 Swansea
Fulham 2-2 Spurs
LIverpool 2-1 Southampton
Man City 1-0 Everton
QPR 1-0 Villa (I must be mad to KEEP predicting QPR wins... 6th time lucky!)
West Brom 0-0 Stoke
Reading 0-2 Man Utd (banker of the week in another tough set of fixtures)
Norwich 1-0 Sunderland
Newcastle 2-0 Wigan

Is it just me or is this getting harder and harder every time?


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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc Nov. 30th, 2012 @ 12:23 PM Reply

At 11/30/12 12:08 PM, Sentio wrote:
At 11/27/12 05:47 PM, DannyIsOnFire wrote: Forgot all about the midweek fixtures, more points dropped >:(
Well I did the honourable thing and got no points in those two fixtures despite having made predictions. Remember that later in the season!

Much appreciated! I got a couple of perfect scores from what I saw so hopefully I'll have cut your lead down :D

West Ham 1-2 Chelsea
Arsenal 2-1 Swansea
Fulham 1-2 Spurs
LIverpool 2-1 Southampton
Man City 3-1 Everton
QPR 0-0 Villa
West Brom 1-0 Stoke
Reading 0-2 Man Utd
Norwich 0-0 Sunderland
Newcastle 2-0 Wigan

Tough games and only one real certainty I think (Man United).


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At 11/30/12 12:23 PM, DannyIsOnFire wrote: Much appreciated! I got a couple of perfect scores from what I saw so hopefully I'll have cut your lead down :D

Well, you certainly cut his lead down, but not by as much as some people...

Week 14 Results (28/11/12)

Rank // Correct Results // Perfect Scores // Weekly Points // Overall Points // Best Weekly Score // Name // Rank Change

01. // 5 // 1 // 07 // 098 // 13 // Sentio 0
02. // 7 // 3 // 13 // 095 // 13 // Dream-of-Duke +1
03. // 4 // 2 // 08 // 093 // 12 // DannyIsOnFire -1
04. // 3 // 0 // 03 // 078 // 10 // HeartbreakHoldout 0
05. // 0 // 0 // 00 // 065 // 10 // Gagsy 0
06. // 7 // 3 // 13 // 040 // 13 // Ejit 0
07. // 0 // 0 // 00 // 007 // 04 // Jonny 0
08. // 0 // 0 // 00 // 005 // 05 // LostFaceInTrain 0

Weekly Highest Score: 13 (Dream-of-Duke, Ejit)
Highest Score all time: 13 (Sentio - Week 8, Dream-Of-Duke & Ejit - Week 14)
Weekly average score: 8.80
Weekly average highest all time: 8.80 (Week 14)

I think I should stop making fun of Ejit, because four more weeks like this and he'll be ahead of me...

Apparently surprise midweek fixtures bring out the best in people, because we have a new high weekly average, even with people missing games. The highest score of the week is shared by Ejit and Dream-Of-Duke, who score a record equalling 13. As a result, there is a surprise at the top of the table, where DannyIsOnFire has been knocked out of the top two for the first time since the very first week.

Danny does gain 1 on Sentio at the top, meaning the top three are separated by only 5 points, but if Dream-Of-Duke continues his good form, he could easily pull off a shock and find himself in first by the end of this week. Have we found someone to contend with the might of Sentio and DannyIsOnFire?

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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc Dec. 1st, 2012 @ 12:42 AM Reply

West Ham 2-1 Chelsea (Chelsea won't win the league until Roman finally accepts that his girlfriend Torres is finished and replace her with Cavani or Falcao)
Arsenal 1-0 Swansea
Fulham 1-1 Tottenham
Liverpool 2-0 So'ton
Man City 2-1 Everton
QPR 1-0 Villa
WBA 3-1 Stoke
Reading 1-3 Man U
Norwich 2-1 Sunderland
Newcastle 0-0 Wigan


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West Ham 0-0 Chelsea
Arsenal 2-0 Swansea
Fulham 1-2 Spurs
LIverpool 2-2 Southampton
Man City 3-1 Everton
QPR 0-1 Villa
West Brom 2-0 Stoke
Reading 0-4 Man Utd
Norwich 0-0 Sunderland
Newcastle 2-1 Wigan


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Response to Newgrounds Football Club - Ngfc Dec. 1st, 2012 @ 06:30 AM Reply

At 11/30/12 08:20 PM, HeartbreakHoldout wrote: I think I should stop making fun of Ejit, because four more weeks like this and he'll be ahead of me...

I have broader horizons my friend. Like opening up the deficit on LostFaceinTrain. I'll show him losing face. Where's Jonny?

Thx for tallying

West Ham 0-1 Chelsea
Arsenal 2-2 Swansea
Fulham 2-2 Spurs
Liverpool 2-1 Southampton
Man City 1-0 Everton
QPR 0-0 Villa
West Brom 0-0 Stoke
Reading 1-2 Man Utd
Norwich 1-1 Sunderland
Newcastle 2-0 Wigan

At 11/30/12 12:08 PM, Sentio wrote: another tough set of fixtures

There are no easy fixtures

But yeah I'm not confident at all


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