At 11/22/12 12:29 PM, Sentio wrote:
The only thing I disagree with amidst all of that is the fact that Chelsea are winning trophies despite hiring and firing managers at will. Obviously we will never know for sure, but with the resources at hand they should have won far more than they have in that time. They have massively outspent Arsenal, and most of that time was pre City, so only United stood between them and most trophies. To only win 10 in 11 years isn't that great when put like that, and I remain convinced that had Jose stayed they would have close to double that.
Had Mourinho stayed I don't doubt that we would have won more but to think we could have gotten around 20 trophies in that space of time is a bit of a stretch really. When you think 10 trophies in 9 years (Roman came in 2003 after all), thats a great return that only the likes of Man U can match. And I think they may have one less though I probably am wrong there and United with SAF at the helm are a special breed. Anyway that 10 in that space of time is an awesome return, no matter how many managers is took to get there. Yes I wish we could stick to one, because you just don't know who to get attached to and it adds stability and god sometimes I wonder what our current squad would look that had we still had Mourinho or Ancelotti doing the job for the long haul. But considering everything, we do win more trophies by our owner being fickle with coaches. Its sad but true.
When he left they were the dominant force in England, and a threat in Europe. They were winning a couple of trophies a season and sweeping all before them. Now Chelsea are the third best side in England, and a distance behind the Manchester sides if last season is anything to go by.
I also don't think we're that far behind ether Manchester side. Its long overdue that United get found out for the subpar squad they have this season (bar upfront) and City, well there are obvious issues in the dressing room. If we had a consistent goal scorer up front and Luiz woke up and realised what a defender is actually meant to do then we'd be a much better side, maybe still top of the table. Our problems could be fixed as early as January, but the likes of Falcao or someone as equally dangerous up front joining our ranks then are looking more and more distant now the man who got the very best out of El Nino is in charge.
Add to that the understandable hatred from Chelsea fans and this makes even less sense.
I'm glad you've said that. I've so many negative comments online over the last day about us Chelsea fans being UNGRATEFUL about Benitez being in and how that makes us arrogant fans and too proud and its like.. do you even get why we hate him so much? It is like digging the knife in deeper really.
But I agree about the Torres thing as much as I hate to admit it. Us Chelsea fans, we've been patience (we've had to be), but its just not happening with him. We can't deny it much longer. And exactly the same thing is happening now like it did with Shevchenko. Bought in by Roman, not wanted by the manager at the time (Jose) and that damaged the working relationship beyond repair when the signing flopped. We lost the best manager we ever had, or likely ever will and now its a bit of history repeating. Only every single chance for Torres to shine has been given to him. The team is shaped to suit his style. He is playing like every game (bar mid week). And he's just not delivering. Now another manager is gone, the one we've been happiest with since like Hiddink came in to lend a hand and if IF Rafa was bought in mainly just to get Torres scoring again I just don't know what to think about Roman. A stubborn a fool as any. Needs to remember that he may be the owner but he isn't the coach. That he should leave the footballing decisions completely to the one he pays to do them.
Give it 5 years, when Chelsea have been through every 'top' manager Europe has to offer and don't be surprised to see Mr
Abramovich at the dugout himself.
Time to support Steve Clarke at West Brom for a bit me thinks.
Anyway, at least jokes can always cheer me up;
"It's predicted that by 2025 you'll be no more than six feet away from an ex-Chelsea manager."
"Chelsea are to begin recognising the success of their coaching staff with their very own 'Manager of the Month' award."
"I've been thinking about getting some short term work over the Christmas period.
So I decided to apply for the Chelsea job."
"First Premier League manager sacked.
QPR can't even win that."
"Roberto Di Matteo sacked by Chelsea.
Apparently the decision was made after the team's failure to win Wimbledon, the Grand National and bring home any Gold medals from the Olympics."
And a Liverpool one cause I'm always in that kind of mood.
"How many Liverpool fans does it take to screw in a light bulb?
None, they just sit around reminiscing about the last one."