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At 4/18/04 05:36 PM, thegreatmorph wrote:
At 4/18/04 05:26 PM, moongod wrote: moongod - 7379 Blams and yet I've been snubbed from the list..........
7,381 at the moment. This is unheard of! gfox, the master of perfection missing someone out.

no it's not. O_o

I used to be missing a lot of people for 1 or even 2 updates at times many months ago. I'd usually find people BEFORE they got to my list, but sometimes I'd find out too late, and add them after they should have been already added.

It just hasn't happened often recently, that's all.

Besides, unlike say Dogma's list, where all the gaps are evident, any gaps on this list appear NOT to be gaps because I don't have an actual blam rank or save rank stat from NG to see that I'm missing someone, eh?

So that has the dual effect of making these two lists appear more "perfect" than they should, but also of making it harder for me to know where mistakes/gaps are. It's a double-edged sword, but ANY non-automated/non-official-NG list is an inaccurate and human endeavour.

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At 4/18/04 05:52 PM, gfoxcook wrote: So that has the dual effect of making these two lists appear more "perfect" than they should, but also of making it harder for me to know where mistakes/gaps are. It's a double-edged sword, but ANY non-automated/non-official-NG list is an inaccurate and human endeavour.

Muchas gracias for the update... seems like making the list is within reach but will still take a little while...

I doubt given the relative completeness of D0gma's list now that you've got anyone missed out. AFAIK it's complete up to Sergeant Majors, so you're not likely to be missing anyone. So to say that the list must be inaccurate (barring the moongod oversight) wouldn't be truthful. Similarly, seeing how Dobio and myself got stats for our lists from the horse's mouth a bit ago, they were accurate at one time.

Will go and have a look at the protectors list now.

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It's all good...I don't check this one very often at all.


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At 4/18/04 05:15 PM, gfoxcook wrote: 13 15 -- 14,979 172.43% 23,666 *** alexsmolik

As usual, nice update gfox.
Amazing how much I ranked up. I didn't expect to rank up 2 ranks, especially in Blams. Because I miss a lot of them.
Anyways, nice to know I'm getting closer of the top 10 list, even though it will take quite a long time to finally reach the goal !

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At 4/18/04 05:15 PM, gfoxcook wrote: 38 52 -- 08,017 220.67% 11,650 ---- IM_KOOL_R_U

Ya y first time on the list and look where I am at

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At 4/18/04 06:06 PM, jonthomson wrote:
At 4/18/04 05:52 PM, gfoxcook wrote: So that has the dual effect of making these two lists appear more "perfect" than they should, but also of making it harder for me to know where mistakes/gaps are. It's a double-edged sword, but ANY non-automated/non-official-NG list is an inaccurate and human endeavour.
Muchas gracias for the update... seems like making the list is within reach but will still take a little while...

Yep. Although I still think you can reach the other one quicker, despite the lack of saves on the portal right now.

Just remember to compare yourself to #49 on today's update here, since Brainy is technically #51, not #50.

I doubt given the relative completeness of D0gma's list now that you've got anyone missed out. AFAIK it's complete up to Sergeant Majors, so you're not likely to be missing anyone. So to say that the list must be inaccurate (barring the moongod oversight) wouldn't be truthful. Similarly, seeing how Dobio and myself got stats for our lists from the horse's mouth a bit ago, they were accurate at one time.

That's true for now, but by "inaccurate," I wasn't just referring to possible gaps or missing people from the lists but also to the fact that I can never update everyone's stats at once. By the time I get to the last person I check stats for, many of the other people have gained points no matter what time of day I run the update.

That's all I meant, that I can't be as perfect at creating a snapshot of a single moment in time as the official top 50 b/p list is. Perhaps someday liljim will create official top 50 blammers and top 50 saviours lists and put me out of my inaccurate misery, though. #;-}>

Will go and have a look at the protectors list now.

Niftiness. Let me know what you think about your chances for making that one as well.

At 4/18/04 06:12 PM, moongod wrote: It's all good...I don't check this one very often at all.

Well, just make sure you check both of them next update. Like I said, you'll be on BOTH lists next time if you get like 60+ more saves or so. If I don't see you commenting shortly after I upload next time, I'll make sure to tell you about the updates in the VP thread or B/P ranks 51+ or wherever you're posting at the time. #;-}>

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At 4/18/04 06:20 PM, alexsmolik wrote:
At 4/18/04 05:15 PM, gfoxcook wrote: 13 15 -- 14,979 172.43% 23,666 *** alexsmolik
As usual, nice update gfox.
Amazing how much I ranked up. I didn't expect to rank up 2 ranks, especially in Blams. Because I miss a lot of them.
Anyways, nice to know I'm getting closer of the top 10 list, even though it will take quite a long time to finally reach the goal !

thanks for replying to both lists, man. You pulled an XkwizitOne there. #;-}>

You're rapidly approaching top 10 on this list, too, yeah. But you'll probably always be higher ranked on the saviour list. So let's see, you're #10 in combined, #10 in saves, and #13 in blams... huh... with #10 in both of the other lists, actually, I'd say you're likely to move up even more in blams soon. Nifty. Keep on' truckin', man.

At 4/18/04 06:46 PM, IM_KOOL_R_U wrote:
At 4/18/04 05:15 PM, gfoxcook wrote: 38 52 -- 08,017 220.67% 11,650 ---- IM_KOOL_R_U
Ya y first time on the list and look where I am at

Indeed. You jumped 12 spots into the list, good job. Only _Newt had you beat (but that's because he probably got on the list like 2 days after the last update, 6 weeks ago, so he had tons of time to move up and up and up the list).

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At 4/18/04 07:33 PM, gfoxcook wrote: That's true for now, but by "inaccurate," I wasn't just referring to possible gaps or missing people from the lists but also to the fact that I can never update everyone's stats at once. By the time I get to the last person I check stats for, many of the other people have gained points no matter what time of day I run the update.

Fair enough, that's not a bad point. It is impossible to grab everything at once.

Niftiness. Let me know what you think about your chances for making that one [protectors list] as well.

Nowhere near as good as making this one, at least in the near future. While I'm 800 or so away from this list, I'm 1200 away from the protectors list. At my present blam:save ratio, by the time I got those 1200, I'd have something like 3500 extra blams...

I'm not that worried about it - the big one is getting in the top 50 combined, and I'm about 2,100 points and 20 places off that. If I cross that barrier, your two lists will come eventually. It's just that the blam list will come first. Nothing to do with my voting patterns, as they just reflect the amount of crap that comes into the Portal :-(

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At 4/13/04 04:20 AM, gfoxcook wrote:
At 4/3/04 05:11 PM, -AcidBurn- wrote: Heh, I'm 8th now and fixit sill has twice as many blams as I do . Maybe if I just focus on getting to seve.... Oh geez. When Recon said he was going "scout ahead" I presumed it was at least going to be in the same time zone
What do you mean about Recon scouting ahead in the same time zone? O_o

Tying too many puns into the same sentence I guess lol Recon would obviously "scout" ahead in a normal situation. I was alluding to how far ahead of me he is in blams, so far ahead that he's "in another time zone." Course, by that same analogy, fixit is most of the way to the moon ...

At 4/18/04 05:14 PM, gfoxcook wrote: BrownCow, who had just joined us last update. He left the BBS, and I presume the portal as well, and... well, this is what happens as a result. #;-}>

We had someone in the military last year who posted that they were getting shipped off to Afghan. That's been on my "at some point" list for a while now ... that I'll go through my posts and figure out who that was, fire off an e-mail and see how they are. Separate from that, I think it was Browncow who said he was getting shipped out as well, although I think he was headed to Iraq. There was a "goodbye" thread of some sort ~a month ish ago in General I never got around to replying in so it'll be harder for me to find that one, but it's on that same list of mine.

BTW, no worries I take over your top 50s ... I have my hands full ;) Quickies to give people near the edge an idea on where they are and what they need is about all I have time for.

At 4/18/04 05:12 PM, gfoxcook wrote: Congrats to:

D0GMA on her promotion to Elite Guard Brigadier General (14th)
D0GMA on her promotion to Elite Guard Major General (13th)

Siwwy gfox ... only had to grat me once, but thanks and thanks again =)

08 14 -- 16,085 230.48% 23,064 *** D0GMA

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14 14 -- 12,256 203.96% 18,265 *** D0GMA

Ick ... +26.5% ... way too much crap being submitted *sigh*


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Blast, i'm less than 100 blams away from being on the list.


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At 4/18/04 05:15 PM, gfoxcook wrote: 16 17 -- 12,246 171.39% 19,391 *** leeboy105
17 26 -- 11,765 275.14% 16,041 *** Syme

Sweet, managed to move up one place.

Syme's making some serious inroads into this list - 9 places up. That's some hefty blamming.


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At 4/18/04 07:46 PM, jonthomson wrote:
At 4/18/04 07:33 PM, gfoxcook wrote: That's true for now, but by "inaccurate," I wasn't just referring to possible gaps or missing people from the lists but also to the fact that I can never update everyone's stats at once. By the time I get to the last person I check stats for, many of the other people have gained points no matter what time of day I run the update.
Fair enough, that's not a bad point. It is impossible to grab everything at once.

well, unless I really was a list robot with direct access to NG database functions!

or... AM I?!?!

but yes. #;-}>

Niftiness. Let me know what you think about your chances for making that one [protectors list] as well.
Nowhere near as good as making this one, at least in the near future. While I'm 800 or so away from this list, I'm 1200 away from the protectors list. At my present blam:save ratio, by the time I got those 1200, I'd have something like 3500 extra blams...

Ah, I didn't realise you were now that much farther away on the saves list. Although, if you slow down at all, the blam #50 is going to move away from you much faster than the save #50 is... so there is that. Anywho... I guess you'll be doing the traditional blam list/top 50 overall/save list entry formation, then. #;-}>

I'm not that worried about it - the big one is getting in the top 50 combined, and I'm about 2,100 points and 20 places off that. If I cross that barrier, your two lists will come eventually. It's just that the blam list will come first. Nothing to do with my voting patterns, as they just reflect the amount of crap that comes into the Portal :-(

There's no way the combined could come before both my lists, man. Unless you had the perfect balance of saves/blams that matched the ratio between the 50 spot on one list with the 50 spot on the other, that is, in which case you would make all three at about the same time.

No, like I just said... with your skewed balance of blams well over saves, you should be making this list before the combined.

By that, BTW, I don't mean that an update of this list with you on it will necessarily predate your appearance at #50 on the combined list, just that technically you will already be on this list by that time, even if I haven't updated it. Just as _Newt has been on this list for a long time, just not in one of my updates until today.

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At 4/18/04 08:18 PM, -AcidBurn- wrote:
At 4/13/04 04:20 AM, gfoxcook wrote: What do you mean about Recon scouting ahead in the same time zone? O_o
Tying too many puns into the same sentence I guess lol Recon would obviously "scout" ahead in a normal situation. I was alluding to how far ahead of me he is in blams, so far ahead that he's "in another time zone." Course, by that same analogy, fixit is most of the way to the moon ...

heh, indeed. Anyway, I think it was more that you were saying one thing and then intentionally cut off your sentence mid word. Were you about to say "seventh spot" on the list or something?

We had someone in the military last year who posted that they were getting shipped off to Afghan. That's been on my "at some point" list for a while now ... that I'll go through my posts and figure out who that was, fire off an e-mail and see how they are.

I remember that. I could dig up the thread, I'm sure, from my saved shortcuts archives, should you need me to.

Separate from that, I think it was Browncow who said he was getting shipped out as well, although I think he was headed to Iraq. There was a "goodbye" thread of some sort ~a month ish ago in General I never got around to replying in so it'll be harder for me to find that one, but it's on that same list of mine.

I saw his goodbye, I replied in it regarding the comments of some that he'd get banned or his thread would get locked, to set things straight about how the rules work exactly.

But I don't remember anything at all about him going to Iraq. I thought he was just too busy IRL for NG or something.

BTW, no worries I take over your top 50s ... I have my hands full ;) Quickies to give people near the edge an idea on where they are and what they need is about all I have time for.

Worries? I'd love it if you did. Are you kidding me? I just went through 5+ hours of hell getting these updates done. You think I still enjoy this? #;-}>

I'd appreciate more of those quickies, as I tried (And apparently failed) to get across to you, as they were invaluable in making the hunt for new additions to the list easier today. Aside from _Newt and moongod, all the other people who needed to be added were in the ranges you miniupdated 8 days ago.

At 4/18/04 05:12 PM, gfoxcook wrote: Congrats to:

D0GMA on her promotion to Elite Guard Brigadier General (14th)
D0GMA on her promotion to Elite Guard Major General (13th)
Siwwy gfox ... only had to grat me once, but thanks and thanks again =)

well, at least now I understand what you meant by again in the other thread. heh.

I congrat by rankup count, not by people count, as my rankup-count-section of the notes should indicate this update, so.... it's not about "had to," it's about the way it is, that's all. #;-}>

08 14 -- 16,085 230.48% 23,064 *** D0GMA
vs.
14 14 -- 12,256 203.96% 18,265 *** D0GMA
Ick ... +26.5% ... way too much crap being submitted *sigh*

coulda been worse!

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At 4/18/04 09:08 PM, leeboy105 wrote:
At 4/18/04 05:15 PM, gfoxcook wrote: 16 17 -- 12,246 171.39% 19,391 *** leeboy105
17 26 -- 11,765 275.14% 16,041 *** Syme
Sweet, managed to move up one place.

nice goin'. Tough to do where you are right now, such a vacuum...

If you can get on up to the Nemesis/alex/chaotic/Dogma/Xkiwizit/thisisasignin area, you'll have tons of people to jostle with, though. #;-}>

Syme's making some serious inroads into this list - 9 places up. That's some hefty blamming.

indeed! Haven't heard from her in ages, though. She's in silent running mode or something. #;-}>

At 4/18/04 08:39 PM, Mr_Pop_Alot wrote: Blast, i'm less than 100 blams away from being on the list.

Shoulda included you in the "might make the list next time" section. Oh well, just be glad you just got left off of that and not off the list itself like poor moongod. ;_;

Anyway, he got himself a miniupdate all to himself, so hopefully that made up for it. #;-}>

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OH NO She did not, omg I will have to take her place she is a sneakky devil haha, anyways thanks for another great list...

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At 4/18/04 05:15 PM, gfoxcook wrote: rank / prev -- blams / b2s% / b/p ---- name
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50 58 -- 07,132 122.52% 12,953 *** Bigmanbrainy
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rank / prev -- blams / b2s% / b/p ---- name

holy shit!! i was sure that i would never reach this list as people were slipping away from me! it is amazing! i like completely stopped! i will start again! omg! omg! *ejaculates* see fox you just saved a reg account.


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At 4/18/04 11:38 PM, XwaynecoltX wrote: 42 54 -- 07,745 263.79% 10,681 ---- Violet-AIM
43 49 -- 07,701 131.28% 13,567 *** XwaynecoltX

OH NO She did not, omg I will have to take her place she is a sneakky devil haha, anyways thanks for another great list...

heh! Well, she can't exactly compete with you in reviews, man. You gotta admit that. #;-}> Although I suppose she's fairly close to you in response/review ratio, though, so you're already competing there.

Anyway, good luck jostling with her for position here, but keep in mind, while she did rise more than you did, and is a bit ahead of you, you DID move up from #49 to #43, which isn't too shabby, and it means you're solidly on the list now, with no danger of falling off soon, unlike other people...

At 4/18/04 11:48 PM, BIGMANBRAINY wrote:
At 4/18/04 05:15 PM, gfoxcook wrote: rank / prev -- blams / b2s% / b/p ---- name
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50 58 -- 07,132 122.52% 12,953 *** Bigmanbrainy
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rank / prev -- blams / b2s% / b/p ---- name
holy shit!! i was sure that i would never reach this list as people were slipping away from me! it is amazing! i like completely stopped! i will start again! omg! omg! *ejaculates* see fox you just saved a reg account.

speak of the devil! #;-}>

Well, I see that you only read the update on last page and didn't notice my amendment to it on this one regarding that.... It's just as well, I suppose, I don't want to depress you with what happened again.

Let's just say... good job on blamming a lot, man, but you'd better keep it up or you might not be on the top 50 blams come next update, okay? Good luck!

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At 4/18/04 05:14 PM, gfoxcook wrote: Welcome to:

kospas, who's been a mainstay on the BBS for some time now. Glad to finally have you on one of my lists.

Thanks for the welcome Greg :P. Nice job on the list.


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At 4/19/04 09:33 AM, kospas wrote: Thanks for the welcome Greg :P. Nice job on the list.

Sure thing. And thank you!

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wow.... thats a lot of crappy flash movies blammed and stuff lots of people go to ng dont they


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At 4/18/04 05:14 PM, gfoxcook wrote: Welcome to: _Newt, who surprised many of us by showing up on Dogma's 51+ b/p list quite near the top 50, and made this list around 6 weeks ago, right after the last update, I'll bet.

Why yes. I believe you said something about a couple of us being on the very brink of making the list last update, but I had no idea I was one place out. Heres to 22 position jumps.

At 4/18/04 07:37 PM, gfoxcook wrote: Only _Newt had you beat (but that's because he probably got on the list like 2 days after the last update, 6 weeks ago, so he had tons of time to move up and up and up the list).

That might be it, or ...maybe it's because I rock so hard. Intriguing, aye?

Once again, great job on the list-making-goodness. I do believe I'd go insane trying to keep track of all these people on different lists.

Speaking of which, I be pretty durn close to the coveted 7.5 VP. I'd rather not make another post in the VP thread just for that though.


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At 4/21/04 12:24 AM, Ineffiable wrote: wow.... thats a lot of crappy flash movies blammed and stuff

What is? The stat for how many blams the whole top 50 list has in my update? That's a bit misleading, because if all 50 of us blammed the same movie, that counts as "50 blam points" even though it's from only one blam. #;-}>

The only stat you need know is that we have barely 40,000 movies in the portal right now, even though we're up to 163,000+ movies submitted. So... around 125,000 have been blammed.

lots of people go to ng dont they

Why... yes they do. Otherwise NG wouldn't consistenly be in the top 800 or so sites on the net, traffic wise! #;-}>

At 4/21/04 01:13 AM, _Newt wrote: Why yes. I believe you said something about a couple of us being on the very brink of making the list last update, but I had no idea I was one place out. Heres to 22 position jumps.

Well, the 51, 52, 53, etc. are only estimates. I don't track the ranks of anyone beyond #50 when I do updates, so when I add new people in a big clump, I simply give them fairly arbitrary "last update ranks" based on their current blam/save counts for each of the lists.

You happened to be the strongest person entering the list, in terms of blams, so you got to be #51. You were presumably also the first one to enter after last update, although I suppose it's possible someone else did and then slowed down and you passed them... but I doubt it, considering the margin you had on everyone else who was new (just compare your blam total on this update to all the other 50+ "last update ranked" people.

That might be it, or ...maybe it's because I rock so hard. Intriguing, aye?

hahahhaaha.... aye.

Once again, great job on the list-making-goodness. I do believe I'd go insane trying to keep track of all these people on different lists.

Who says I haven't already?! EHEHEHEH!?!?

Speaking of which, I be pretty durn close to the coveted 7.5 VP. I'd rather not make another post in the VP thread just for that though.

.... you are? Damnit, I don't think you were in the big 6.00+ update, though. Same as cyberdevil. (sigh)

You people have to post more in the VP topic, especially with regard to what your current VP is and how close you are to making the 7.5 list or somesuch to remind me that I need to make sure you're on the list. It's nice for BBS conservation that you wanted to make that comment here and not make another post.... but it wasn't nice for my list update's accuracy. #;-}>

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I'll be on this list someday, gfox....just you wait. I am on most of the others, and I will be on this one as well. You work pretty hard at updating these things, don't you? I mean, dang....you have at least 4 lists that you look after now.


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At 4/24/04 03:27 AM, -Axe- wrote: I'll be on this list someday, gfox....just you wait.

we all hope you do -axe- :-)

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At 5/4/04 02:43 AM, Anarchy_Balsac wrote: i'd be on that list by nw had i not been reset

Really? Who were you and what did you do to be reset?

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At 4/24/04 03:27 AM, -Axe- wrote: I'll be on this list someday, gfox....just you wait. I am on most of the others, and I will be on this one as well. You work pretty hard at updating these things, don't you? I mean, dang....you have at least 4 lists that you look after now.

Most of the others? Wha?

Oh, I guess you mean the reviews list, the Elite Guard list, and the VP list, right? Yep. But you're not quite near this or the other two b/p-related top 50s. I'm sure you will indeed get here someday, though.

Yes, I do work hard at it. But I used to work hard more often. Now I slack. But it's to preserve my sanity. I'd rather be sane and have fewer list updates than... the opposite.

....

in any event... this topic certainly got more traffic than the saves list did (7 posts compared to 2 posts), but... I can't say it was much better. ANOTHER EGG LAID. #;-}>

As I said over there, it may be some time before an update, so don't ask, peez. ;_;

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