Well thats good I did hate those people that add links in there reviews I noticed that when I was browsing the dress up games!!
But I am also very pissed off at the amount of users that Give Reviews that say THIS SUXX!!!! BLAM that ticks me off any way its good you can get those ass wipes!
I see format has replyed to you also. Good. I took the time to reply point by point, but I won't be so nice next time. nothing personal.
I don't really see why it matters in the least. The text limit on reviews limits how much kb any text flood is going to steal from the database and we users simply pass over a passage of "DDDDDDDDDDK" without it making much of an impact on our lives.
Yeah, OR you can have some people report the review to the forum and have it deleted, which is BETTER
The last condition is that you may now be banned for insulting an author..!?. 'Scuze me? Did I hear that right?
INSULTING nimrod, not insulting. If you say "die asshole" and give straight 0s, you fucking deserve to be banned a day or two, because its obvious you aren't responsible enough to use the revie system
protect us from IDIOTS who spam. You have to get one thing through your skull: people LIKE to have points and neat useless shiny stuff in their profiles, that is why it works
Here is a website who's most famed works involve school shootings, the anal rape of pokemon, and proposed assisination of damn near every pop culture icon ever!!! And you're going to tell us not to use naughty language? Not to insult one another? To... ahem... play nice???!
no, we're telling people to NOT BE ASSES in their reviews. While it might seem ironic, you must realize that any Flash game on the site isn't aiming at promoting sodomy, destruction and mass-murder. It's just showcasing something for fun, or to learn flash or show your skills. That's what the site is for. Besides, the REALLY abusive stuff ( child porn and friends...) is getting either flaged or forgotten
Unfortunately the internet does not allow us the ability to physically render pain unto those deserving. (At least not yet.) However, those few of us blessed with a sharply spiked tongue are able to deliver an equal if not more powerful berage of blows simply with our words.
too bad you're only full of inexperienced hot air.
Half the fun of seeing a hideous flash is bashing the moron who made it and reading how others have similarly smited the author.
There is such a thing as contrusctive bashing you know. The admins are mainly trying to prevent people from giving straight 0 and saying ONLY: "die you faggot, your mom is a cunt".
As it stands now you've already sucked the fun out of reading portal reviews by making us wait until ~120 votes to see any of them... Now the ones that are most interesting and most entertaining will get you banned???
What's that you say? There are 30 000 fucking movies on the site and you have to read the first 5's reviews? opps someone has a problem. I admit that some people write pretty damed funny stuff, but you have to realize the 99% of the shit we're going after is neither funny or helpfulm and abusive in every possible fucking way.
You suck! You should die!
haha not funny.
You are one of those people who have something they never use, and when someone tries to take it away before you do some bad with it, you whine because "it was your right".
Next time I reply to you, I'll do lots more sniping and I'll go straight to the points.
I have been a member of message boards that do not flame...and wondered if clicking 'abusive' really did anything. In a state of rage and idiocy I responded to abusive reviews; now, I shall click.
pardon the typos in the last post, I didn't review it ( too long dammit) but one as smart as you should have no trouble deciphering it...
In conclusion, check out this thread:http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic.php?id=74264
Because remember:
-the review mods are handpicked nice and competent people
-it take, like, 20 abusive flags to get reported
-it is basically Wade who decides of the fate of a users in the end, and contrary to popular belief ( by angry people) he has enough judgement for the job.
Trust me, the review mods are largely going after outwar spammers, who HURT NG, how is that hurting the site by deleting useless reviews? The review mods are very responsible users who are simply trying to cut down on the sheer amount of useless crap in the reviews.
At 7/23/03 01:25 AM, SBCmilkshakeclock wrote: Btw, NG isn't an essay contest, just thought I'd let you know...but who cares...
from time to time it is nice to see a long post though. lets you know they took time to express an opinion.
you don't know if i'm joking or not
At 7/23/03 03:07 AM, format wrote:
from time to time it is nice to see a long post though. lets you know they took time to express an opinion.
No, it's not the lenght, but the way he wrote it like a novel or something. But I won't hold it against him, that's the way he writes. But maybe next time he should simplify his things instead of making it sound good and convincing with the words and not the ideas.
But I agree that at least, he probably isn't one of those retarded nOObs who write 10 word sentences and who you just can't convince of anything because of the thickness of their skulls.
Review mods? Finally where rid of those people giving link and stuff in their reviews.
There are always people putting a link 2 there site in a review. Review mods is a good solution i think.
Excellent news.
This should clean up NG from the stupidity of spammers considerably.
Newgrounds is a website for 13 year olds who cannot understand the difference between "there", "their" and "they´re".
I know outwar & psg spammers are a problem, but I'd also like to see something done about other forms of review abuse.
For example, this guy started off his reviewing career by picking random scores. Now he seems to have reverted to giving every movie a 0, whether he likes it or not. That IMO is abuse of the system.
If this guy gets a smackback from an author's response to one of his (bloody useless) reviews, he promptly goes and scores 0 on the other submissions by that author, along with telling them they should die and that they're g*y etc etc. So far he's done it to synj and myself, but I'm sure he won't stop there (and yes, I know my first response to him was out of order, I was drunk & wound-up at the time).
I also think that people who review a movie with 0 because they couldn't get it to load (unless of course the same thing is happening to EVERYONE who tries to view it) should have their reviews marked as abusive/removed. They seem to think that the review section is there for them to ask for help with their PC problems. If they haven't actually SEEN the movie, then they have no right to offer a review of it.
I gotta say this, Jim, Wade... I'm not feeling this Idea in the least... I can understand the need to reduce the outwar reviews. But to be honest, you can't even link to them, (and people here are too damn lazy to follow up on how to),.. so whats the point?..
You should really have more faith in your systems,.. You get to rate a movie with a review, Review a review,and in turn, rate that review.. That to me is enough.. And now to have fidgetly little fingers thumbing over reviews ,just looking for trouble.. and what makes you think this system won't get corrupt?..
Sure first it will be outwar reviews.. then just reviews that turn them the wrong way, then it's bad reviews posted on their best friends movie..
its the mcarthy Era of Flash reviews..
Don't do it Wade,..
The mecanic is simple dammit:
1 -outwar, abusive and spammy reviews are unwanted
2 -people like to have little icons in their profiles
3 -a sufficiant number of people is needed to flag a review so it gets reported
4- there are threads where people can report the abuve and where we can team up and have them deleted.
5- the review mods are responsible trusted people
so in the end, it's not a big deal if those reviews stay or go and I'd like Liljim to update lots of other things instead) but it's still better if they are gone, and this is a perfect system.
There's no reason for a user to post a link to an irrelevant site, or to insult the author.
If the author made it with an inferior program, you could certainly link to a site where he could purchase a better one.
But it isn't at all going to help a person make better flash if a user fills his review with "ogm ur so ghey, i hope u die."
What bad things could come about...?
Corruption of the mods is not an issue, as anything that happens passes by NG staff.
Review mods will not be able to fly off the handle and ban everyone, as there's very clear guidelines, and again, it all passes by NG staff.
Can anyone think of something bad about this?
I can't.
At 7/23/03 06:40 AM, Ted_Easton wrote:
Can anyone think of something bad about this?
I can't.
The only bad thing is that I'm not one of the review mods.
px hulk.
At 7/23/03 06:40 AM, Ted_Easton wrote:
What bad things could come about...?
Corruption of the mods is not an issue, as anything that happens passes by NG staff.
.
Lets hope so, cause anyone willing to sift through thousands of lines of Text, on their free time,.. is already phucked in the head in my book...
But hey what ever gets you off
At 7/23/03 07:46 AM, MindChamber wrote:
Lets hope so, cause anyone willing to sift through thousands of lines of Text, on their free time,.. is already phucked in the head in my book...
But hey what ever gets you off
Yeah, like Newgroundling. I don't really spend my time sifting through reviews. There really isn't a point. I mean, maybe just the games on the front page or the ones that won awards because those are the games/movies that get spammed. I agree with midchamber, what the hell? Review a game... the review gets reviewed, and the the reviewers of the reviews get reviewed. WTF? Seems pointless. Wouldn't it be easier to just have the reviews automatically delete themselves if they contain the word outwar or pornstarguru???
Won't this impose on the already ailing bandwidth of newgrounds? it seems that there'd have to be atleast five people constantly on access to watch over the system. That'd cause back logging wouldn't it? I love NG, it's the greatest form of mental masturbation there is, but the problems already with bandwidth irritates me to no end. Review mods are indeed a great idea. It gives those of sincere in giving helpful critiques a chance to be set aside from those lesser life forms who desire nothing but slamming the works of others.
At 7/23/03 07:46 AM, MindChamber wrote:
Lets hope so, cause anyone willing to sift through thousands of lines of Text, on their free time,.. is already phucked in the head in my book...
OMg, they get super MOD POWERS and a SNINY WHISTLE. Who wouldn't want THAT??
bout time this happened, every day all i see is spam spam spam, and i am fucken sick of it, good work wade
At 7/22/03 08:57 PM, shade_v2 wrote: You have no idea how elated I am at the news of these changes. (and a whole lot of other BS)
Look, you are a moron. You have no idea what you are talking about. Since we introduced the review system we have had review guidelines listed in the portal FAQ. If you read the guidelines you will see that all the reasons I listed for getting banned are right in there. Our guidelines clearly state you can not post advertisements in your reviews (outwar), you can not post tons of crappy reviews to get your review count up (this would cover reviews that are just text floods, etc), and you can not insult the authors. You ask "Why can't we insult the authors?" because you don't see all the great artists who email Tom and I telling us they are leaving NG because they are sick of being insulted by our user base. You must keep in mind our contributors are our #1 priority, not YOU the user who likes to bitch when we ruin your "fun". We need our contributors to keep submitting quality flash work so people will want to keep coming to NG. When we lose our better contributors (most good artists are sensitive people and can't take people insulting them. While you and I might not be able to understand how someone could get so upset over something like this, believe me these artists do get upset!) it hurts Newgrounds. So we will not tolerate users insulting our contributors! For the past couple years I have been constantly removing reviews that break these guidelines, but with thousands of reviews submitted each day I can only get to a handful of them. Now with review mods we will stay on top of many more of these rule breaking reviews. We aren't changing the rules, we just now have more powerful tools to help us enforce them. So you need to STFU!
At 7/23/03 04:10 AM, MindChamber wrote: Sure first it will be outwar reviews.. then just reviews that turn them the wrong way, then it's bad reviews posted on their best friends movie..
its the mcarthy Era of Flash reviews..
Don't do it Wade,..
Oh blow it out your ass. I'm sick of you people who are all worried about NG turning into some communist web site. Do you submit outwar reviews? Do you personally insult our contributors? Do you character flood reviews? If you answered no, no and no then you have nothing to worry about, so shut up! You have to remember that the review mods can only ban a user and then I will review the case. I will not remove reviews that dont' break our guidelines. If I feel a review mod banned someone unfairly I will simply unban the user and tell the review mod to not ban someone for those reasons. This is a good thing for NG. Again, we have had some of our best contributors leave NG because they are sick of the abuse they receive in their reviews.
At 7/23/03 07:59 AM, XjokerX wrote: Won't this impose on the already ailing bandwidth of newgrounds? it seems that there'd have to be atleast five people constantly on access to watch over the system. That'd cause back logging wouldn't it? I love NG, it's the greatest form of mental masturbation there is, but the problems already with bandwidth irritates me to no end. Review mods are indeed a great idea. It gives those of sincere in giving helpful critiques a chance to be set aside from those lesser life forms who desire nothing but slamming the works of others.
It won't hurt our bandwidth at all. If all 5 review mods were reviewing reviews and you go and watch a movie on NG you will be using way more bandwidth then they are all by yourself. So chill.
At 7/23/03 07:31 AM, -Sphere- wrote: there is a good side and a bad side to the review mods
the bad side is there won't be as much crap to blow the whistle on and the good thing is the spammers will get punished
Actually you're wrong. Before review mods if you blew the whistle on a bad review it could be a month or more before I'd ever find it and delete it. Until I delete it you don't get any points. However with review mods offending users are found quicker and I take action againts them more efficently so you will get your points much faster. So keep flagging abusive reviews as abusive.
An excellent idea Wade, now that I have finally got the perfect chance to ban Xito.
"As the old saying goes...what was it again?"
At 7/23/03 07:31 AM, -Sphere- wrote: the bad side is there won't be as much crap to blow the whistle on
How is that a BAD thing? The reason you should be marking something abusive is to get rid of the offending review, not for your own personal gain.
The point is... Don't lose your dinosaur.
At 7/23/03 09:16 AM, WadeFulp wrote:At 7/23/03 04:10 AM, MindChamber wrote: Sure first it will be outwar reviews.. then just reviews that turn them the wrong way, then it's bad reviews posted on their best friends movie..Oh blow it out your ass.
its the mcarthy Era of Flash reviews..
Don't do it Wade,..
I'm trying, I'm trying! >_<
Haha, I love it when people group artist as being sensitive..
If people left because of some text.. they they can kiss their asses in the professional world Goodbye..
People that left because they are sensitive are just that, Sensitive People.... Don't catagorize.. In fact the only person that's coming off "sensitive" here is you, my Brotha:).
And try not to get all gestapo on me or I'll blow the whistle on your post:)
I wanna be a review MOD, but thats not the point. I think this is a great idea. It mostly stops those damn crappy Outwar spammers. THANK GOD!
