Hillary/Obama

[Greth-of-destruction]

Who do you think ought to win the democratic election?

A. Hillary Clinton

OR

B. Barack Obama

Personally, I would prefer Hillary.

[SmilezRoyale]

I really don't know... i think hillary might win because people assosiate years in the senate with experience, as well as the number of wrinkles on a persons face :P.

Hillary in my mind is a sure win if she manages to stay away from talking about the issues. :P

[Cuppa-LettuceNog]

Hilary Clinton. It would make it THAT much easier for McCain to sweep the elections.

[SmilezRoyale]

Wait... So Hillary wants to become a dandidate for the general election so a republican can take the oval office?

[cellardoor6]

Barrack Obama. He's the only democrat I like.

Hillary Clinton is a disingenuous, scandalous bitch. Obama is the only Democrat, I think, that has the tiniest shred of honesty. I'd rather he be president than some Republicans.

[Lizardcoolz]

Clintons way to fucking liberal for me and wouldn't know exactly how to run the country budget and as well know how to assult another country if we were being attacked or such. Obama is probley the better choice with honesty.

[catman03]

both candidates suck and neither should win,but hillary will,which is good because she's the best option.the lesser of a few evils so to speak.

[therealsylvos]

At 9/29/07 09:02 PM, Greth-of-destruction wrote: Who do you think ought to win the democratic election?

A. Hillary Clinton

OR

B. Barack Obama

Personally, I would prefer Hillary.

i mean this question perfectly seriously, why?
she is the most popular politician in the u.s. and my question is, why? what has she done that makes her so great?

[squeakytoad]

Edwards.

Hillary is an idiot. It's appalling how many people actually consider her even close to a decent candidate for any position in leadership.
And considering she wants to ban video games, I'm surprised any of you guys said her.

[Gunter45]

Obama's my favorite for the Democratic ticket. I'm not a big fan of his though. I mean, he's very charismatic and young, but he's unproven. I'd love to see him go far in the Senate and then make a run at the Presidency. When I look at Obama, I see Kennedy. Kennedy brought us to the brink of nuclear war with the blockade and sent 1500 people to their death at the Bay of Pigs. He was a bad President, the only reason why he's famous is because he was very young and because he got blown away. Does that mean Obama's going to be a bad President? No. All it means is that we've already gambled on an inexperienced candidate before and we lost. I don't think the highest office in the country is something we chance on somebody who hasn't proven himself.

[cellardoor6]

At 9/30/07 01:46 AM, squeakytoad wrote: Edwards.

LOL!

Hillary is an idiot. It's appalling how many people actually consider her even close to a decent candidate for any position in leadership.
And considering she wants to ban video games, I'm surprised any of you guys said her.

I'm surprised that right after you endorsed Edwards, you suggested it's appalling people consider Hillary Clinton to be a decent candidate.

John Edwards is worse, he's the most feckless, fake and cheesy candidate out there right now. Even though I don't like Hillary Clinton... Edwards is much worse on every level. At least Hillary has a bit of leadership and actually knows what she's talking about when it matters. Edwards is just a slime-ball. I cringe every time he talks, because you know he's full of shit and everything he says he doesn't understand or care about, he's just reciting what his advisers tell him to say, what will appeal to the audience. Now, I know this IS what politicians do... but damn... John Edwards does it in such a douchebag-ey way I don't understand how anyone could like him. I hate him.

For fuck sake just look at him! He has that sleazy car salesman look. He wants to sell you something and he doesn't care how much he has to lie and cheat you to do it.

agh

[squeakytoad]

At 9/30/07 03:30 AM, cellardoor6 wrote:

At 9/30/07 01:46 AM, squeakytoad wrote: Edwards.

LOL!

Hillary is an idiot. It's appalling how many people actually consider her even close to a decent candidate for any position in leadership.
And considering she wants to ban video games, I'm surprised any of you guys said her.

I'm surprised that right after you endorsed Edwards, you suggested it's appalling people consider Hillary Clinton to be a decent candidate.

John Edwards is worse, he's the most feckless, fake and cheesy candidate out there right now. Even though I don't like Hillary Clinton... Edwards is much worse on every level. At least Hillary has a bit of leadership and actually knows what she's talking about when it matters. Edwards is just a slime-ball. I cringe every time he talks, because you know he's full of shit and everything he says he doesn't understand or care about, he's just reciting what his advisers tell him to say, what will appeal to the audience. Now, I know this IS what politicians do... but damn... John Edwards does it in such a douchebag-ey way I don't understand how anyone could like him. I hate him.

For fuck sake just look at him! He has that sleazy car salesman look. He wants to sell you something and he doesn't care how much he has to lie and cheat you to do it.

agh

All very true. All three suck majorly. However, Edwards has a nice financial plan (that includes paying for all of my college), so hence my naming him.

See, Hillary is just as sleazy as this guy. She just knows how to hide it better. Which makes her worse really.
I could rant for hours about how much Hillary sucks. But I won't. Cause I don't feel like it.

[The-Yokai]

Hmmm....if I had a choice, (And if I could vote) I'd say neither. Clinton's priorities are totally screwed up, so normally I'd go for Obama, but he's somewhat of a political noob. So if I could vote, I'd go for John Edwards. A democratic candidate who I heard speak, he sounds like the kind of guy I'd want for president. It's rather ironic, we finally have both a black guy and a woman running for president, but I'm rooting for the white male.

[The-Yokai]

At 9/30/07 01:46 AM, squeakytoad wrote: Edwards.

Hillary is an idiot. It's appalling how many people actually consider her even close to a decent candidate for any position in leadership.
And considering she wants to ban video games, I'm surprised any of you guys said her.

That's a very good point.

[Jolly-rodger]

C. Al Gore for 08 baby

[robattle]

You didn't even look at the other people.

[Jolly-rodger]

are there relay any key political differences between Obama and Clinton think about it Both Obama and Clinton voted against confirming Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Samuel Alito. Both wouldhave supported a filibuster to block a confirmation vote on Alito, if Democratic leaders had tried to mount one.
Each voted against an amendment to this year's Senate immigration bill that would have denied legal status to those who had entered the United States illegally.
No Obama vote on war in Iraq
Both senators have voiced criticism of the way President Bush has conducted operations in Iraq.
Yet when they were given the chance to enact Sen. Russ Feingold's measure ordering Bush to withdraw most U.S. troops by July 1, 2007, both Clinton and Obama voted "no."
Obama didn't take a seat in the Senate until 2005, so he didn't vote on the 2002 congressional resolution authorizing Bush to use force in Iraq.
Clinton did vote for that resolution, as did 28 other Senate Democrats.
Obama and Clinton have disagreed on a few issues since the beginning of 2005, such as a mandate forcing automakers to achieve 40 mile-per-gallon average fuel economy by the year 2017.
Obama voted for that mandate, Clinton against it, and the Senate rejected it on a vote of 67 to 28.

[Jolly-rodger]

At 9/30/07 01:46 AM, squeakytoad wrote: Edwards.

Hillary is an idiot. It's appalling how many people actually consider her even close to a decent candidate for any position in leadership.
And considering she wants to ban video games, I'm surprised any of you guys said her.

she does not want to ban video games, she just wants to make sure children under the age of 17 cant go it to stores an purchase video games rated M or AO, and please go into detail on how she is a "idiot".

[SmilezRoyale]

I thought you weren't able to buy m rated games if you were >17... you needed a parent to acompany you. Plus... I don't think buisnesses would really be thrilled about not being able to sell games like halo and grand theft auto to a large populace of >17 year olds.

[kibas-cool]

hillary probobly isnt going to win. theres plenty of things going against her, and not as many things going against obama

[Chickidydow]

Obama, you just can't help but love that guy, and since he's black and muslim he's got a forbidden delight angle going on too.

[Bolo]

At 10/1/07 10:36 PM, kibas-cool wrote: hillary probobly isnt going to win. theres plenty of things going against her, and not as many things going against obama

Even though in almost every major poll taken thusfar she beats all other candidates hands down, of both parties?

I'd rather see Obama win the nomination. He's always been my favorite candidate. But it looks more and more likely that Hilary is going to take the reins. Honestly, she's not that bad of a alternative candidate, but no one currently in the running holds a candle to Obama, in my opinion.

[tony4moroney]

At 10/1/07 07:08 PM, Jolly-rodger wrote: C. Al Gore for 08 baby

imagine what the world would be like had al gore been president......

[Thread-Killer]

I prefer Hillary because she is not a total freaking moron like Obama. She also has more experience in the catastrophe that a Democrat becomes our next president.

However, I think Hillary WILL win the democratic nomination. Obama is just hype.

[Bolo]

At 10/2/07 12:12 AM, Thread-Killer wrote: I prefer Hillary because she is not a total freaking moron like Obama.

How is Obama a "total freaking moron"?

He has some solid ideals and convictions concerning the direction of America.

What we need right now is a person capable of navigating a diplomatic minefield, correct? I have more confidence in Obama's ability to stay above partisan bickering and more active in foreign affairs once in office, than I have in Hilary's.

[emmytee]

Hillary is a stupid bitch, shes way too sandy-vagina'd middle ages women for me, she will just ban petty stupid shit instead of doing anything worthwhile. If anyone other than Obama wins the next election america is fucked. I'd prefer Hillary over a republican, because at least then she would put a stop to the neo-cons world conquest.

[K-RadPie]

At 10/1/07 10:56 PM, Chickidydow wrote: Obama, you just can't help but love that guy, and since he's black and muslim he's got a forbidden delight angle going on too.

Yeah, especially considering he's not a muslim...

[TheMason]

At 9/29/07 11:33 PM, Lizardcoolz wrote: Clintons way to fucking liberal for me and wouldn't know exactly how to run the country budget and as well know how to assult another country if we were being attacked or such. Obama is probley the better choice with honesty.

Actually, in terms of the economy and attacking a hostile country I think Hillary is much better than Obama. We do not know what his stance on the economy entails, however Bill was a pretty decent President when it came to the economy (he also had a truly economically conservative Republican Congress to deal with though). Furthermore, Hillary voted for the war based upon intelligence from her husband's administration that indicated Iraq had WMDs and that Saddam was a threat that needed to be taken out.

Obama on the other hand we know is a pussy when it comes to using the military. He was against Iraq from the beginning and in a debate in August actually said he would unconditionally go talk to the hardline leadership in Iran and N. Korea...showing his naivete...

I don't like either one...I would like to see the Dems nominate Bill Richardson.

[TheMason]

At 10/2/07 12:05 AM, tony4moroney wrote:

At 10/1/07 07:08 PM, Jolly-rodger wrote: C. Al Gore for 08 baby

imagine what the world would be like had al gore been president......

Probably not much different. 9/11 was going to happen regardless of who won. Once that happened we were going to go into Afghanistan.

Then when you consider that even Clinton's administration was saying Saddam had WMDs (and in 1998 almost invaded Iraq), we were on a path to invade Iraq as well regardless of whether it was Bush or Gore. You have to remember Tony, many people in the military do not neatly seperate Desert Storm from Iraqi Freedom...to us it is two campaigns of the same war that's been going on for over 15 years.

[Avoe17]

i think im liking Hillary right now but every time i hear a speech from Obama i seem to like him a little bit more, so i think it will come down to the last few seconds before i vote