Saddam's sons were targets in raid
Hooray! Two more Iraqis liberated!
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At 7/27/03 10:19 PM, 70TA wrote: He also snagged the hood ornament off of Saddam's Mercedes too!!!
Yay for violating the anti-theft rules! Woo! Well, at least he's coming home, which is more than we can say for about 237 others.
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At 7/28/03 12:33 AM, _crossbreed_ wrote: Hooray! Two more Iraqis liberated!
W00t! I FIFEN!
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Shouldn't you all be gloating that you got a third member of the Hussein dynasty - his 14 year old grandson?
Isn't that exactly what you want, to nip this evilness that will obviously take over him in the bud, while drooling over the photos when they get released like they were pro war pornography, as validation for a job well done?
Strange that this detail vanished after a few early reports, but then again, it doesn't fit in with the image that the US are doing good in Iraq, does it?
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Well, we know for a fact now the're dead. Dental records, DNA tests, and a new tape from Saddam prove it. Saddam's next.
If we catch Saddam or Usama alive, who says we should put a shirt on one of 'em that says "I (heart) NY"
I would LMFAO!
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What I would enjoy, though it seems very rare since Saddam is ready to go down as a martyr, is to have him captured alive. This would mean he would be presented to the media with a shaved head and moustache like a sad old man. Maybe it's some of my blind American pride kicking in, but I'd like nothing more than to see him brought in alive and kickin'.
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Although it might be fun to capture Saddam alive and then put him on trail for all his crimes, I have a better idea. If we catch him alive, let's not even take him out of the country. Everyone is tired of America policing the world. Let's just give him to the Kurds, sit back, and watch the carnage.
Saddam's grandson was also killed. He was 14. I hope you all get a warm feeling about this too.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1004750,00.html
(much thanks to D2k for letting us know about this.)
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At 7/31/03 01:07 AM, _crossbreed_ wrote: Saddam's grandson was also killed. He was 14. I hope you all get a warm feeling about this too.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1004750,00.html
(much thanks to D2k for letting us know about this.)
GREAT! one less family member to avenge the deaths. You don't get it, do you? DICTATORSHIPS ARE INHERITED. Every family member we kill is one more link in the chain of legitimacy gone. The more valid and distant heirs left, the more likely they will fight each other for power instead of fight us.
(please note, I was the guy who started the "Revive Murderous Imperialism" thread)
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HATE.
Because 2,000 years of "For God so loved the world" doesn't trump 1.2 million years of "Survival of the Fittest."
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The kid fought along with his father and uncle and was killed along with them. This kid wasn't some innocent bystander.
I remind you that the people in the house opened fire first.
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At 8/1/03 12:04 AM, Commander-K25 wrote: The kid fought along with his father and uncle and was killed along with them. This kid wasn't some innocent bystander.
I remind you that the people in the house opened fire first.
Exactly! I agree; you people all seem to think that we went after them for some invalid reason, and killed them out of hate. We went there to try and get information that would assist in finding Sadam. You think we would just rather kill them? Its pretty fuckin biased and ignorant to come to such an illogical conclusion. We wanted info from them. They, of course, didnt see being captured as an option. They shot, so we shot back first. We were going to get them through whatever means nessicary, it just so happens that this was the outcome. Besides, have you people read about some of the sick shit that goes on between these fucks and civilins? You dont see their citizens crying over it; theyre pretty fuckin glad. Anyways, just wanted to interject.
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Yes, but what of Saddam's wives, or daughters, which the United States government sees little help in going after? As Paul Bremer so arrogantly said, "If they were to come into my office, I'd offer them tea."
Do we see no threat in his female family members? Are they suddenly incapable of avenging the deaths of their brothers, or channeling their anger against U.S. forces?
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At 8/1/03 05:58 AM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote: Yes, but what of Saddam's wives, or daughters, which the United States government sees little help in going after? As Paul Bremer so arrogantly said, "If they were to come into my office, I'd offer them tea."
Do we see no threat in his female family members? Are they suddenly incapable of avenging the deaths of their brothers, or channeling their anger against U.S. forces?
Actually, thats a good point. I dont know too much about them because im sick of reading about it but I tend to beleive one thing: they have probably been abused by those bastards and so they arent overly upset with the result of our actions. Im sure that those sick fucks treated them like shit; im not sure, its just my opinion. Anyways, thats still a good point to consider.
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Recently, Saddam's daughter, named Rehdan (I believe) spoke on Arab news stations scolding the Iraqis for letting down their leader and turning their backs to Odai and Qusay. She says that any Iraqi who turned their backs to Saddam will be dealt with.
Offer them some tea, Bremer.
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Sorry, lack of sleep everyone. The eldest daughter is named Reghad, and she spoke out in support of Saddam and the Hussein Regime earlier today. Here is the full story.
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At 8/1/03 12:04 AM, Commander-K25 wrote: The kid fought along with his father and uncle and was killed along with them. This kid wasn't some innocent bystander.
I remind you that the people in the house opened fire first.
So, you're running with the line that they allowed the kid the chance to surrender, but he fired regardless anyway? OK, I see the soft sell is all well and good with the US military these days...
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I wouldn't state this as a fact in times like these. I'm sure you've heard some of the stories from Camp X-Ray.
Like when all those "humanitarian" groups went and inspected and couldn't find anything truly wrong.
The American Military is the ONLY military in the world that has not been feared by enemy civilians. Other armies would rape, hurt//maim//kill <enemy> civilians. We are the humanitarian army.
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At 7/30/03 09:32 AM, D2KVirus wrote: Shouldn't you all be gloating that you got a third member of the Hussein dynasty - his 14 year old grandson?
He was fighting to, he was one of the gunman
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At 8/2/03 10:30 AM, Darkside007 wrote:
I wouldn't state this as a fact in times like these. I'm sure you've heard some of the stories from Camp X-Ray.
We are the humanitarian army.
As long as being humanitarian serves our economic interests, we'll be the humanitarians.
Is it possible that the Hussein brothers opened fire first, the American fought back, the 2 brothers were killed and then Saddam's grandson defended himself against the continuing assault of American troops?
Or maybe he was avenging his father's death?
What would you do if someone had just killed your father and you had an assault rifle in your hand?
At 8/2/03 10:32 AM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote: As long as being humanitarian serves our economic interests, we'll be the humanitarians.
Absolutely, America never raised its fist against
capitalist states that have horrible human rights standards. Even dictatorships in South America are ignored if they're engaged in commercial trade with America. China is a fine example of that.
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I've just read the news that the United States has moved the informant that collected $30 million on the heads of Uday and Qusay to the United States for security reasons. If no one sees a problem with this, I feel a lecture coming on about how he will now become a U.S. Citizen and have his $30 million taxed, as opposed to remaining a citizen of Iraq.
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At 8/2/03 01:48 PM, _crossbreed_ wrote:
Absolutely, America never raised its fist against
capitalist states that have horrible human rights standards. Even dictatorships in South America are ignored if they're engaged in commercial trade with America. China is a fine example of that.
No, they aren't ignored, they're installed in South America, big difference.
Naughty, naughty pinko President Salvador Allende, can't have that. Sure, General Augusto Pinochet has a much better ring to it, so that'll be a much better choice (and I'm still waiting for Jimswhine to come back with search results on the name from his precious CIA website). Didn't see much liberating in Argentina at the same time, either. As for Turkey, the US are buying them off with aid, and their human rights record isn't exactly Five Star...
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"Aid" has become the new way of getting around actually having to deal with your unsavory friends. Just look at North Korea -- they're over there building Weapons of Mass Destruction and our answer is to try and provide aid by way of multilateral talks so that we won't have to go in and take out the Weapons of Mass Destruction.
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At 8/5/03 02:47 PM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote: "Aid" has become the new way of getting around actually having to deal with your unsavory friends. Just look at North Korea -- they're over there building Weapons of Mass Destruction and our answer is to try and provide aid by way of multilateral talks so that we won't have to go in and take out the Weapons of Mass Destruction.
I supplied the link (which I've lost, but it's in my post history) about how those damn dirty North Koreans got nuclear. SOmething about paying $20bn to a US company, with Rumsfeld on the board, in 1999.
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Why are people still posting to this? Enough! They're dead, move on.
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At 8/6/03 12:17 PM, BootlegJones wrote: Why are people still posting to this? Enough! They're dead, move on.
Well if that's your line, why keep jabbering on about Jesus? He's been dead a lot longer, y'know...
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At 8/7/03 10:02 AM, D2KVirus wrote:At 8/6/03 12:17 PM, BootlegJones wrote: Why are people still posting to this? Enough! They're dead, move on.Well if that's your line, why keep jabbering on about Jesus? He's been dead a lot longer, y'know...
I love you, D2K. That was gorgeous.
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At 8/8/03 05:50 PM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote:At 8/7/03 10:02 AM, D2KVirus wrote:I love you, D2K. That was gorgeous.At 8/6/03 12:17 PM, BootlegJones wrote: Why are people still posting to this? Enough! They're dead, move on.Well if that's your line, why keep jabbering on about Jesus? He's been dead a lot longer, y'know...
Once again, Bill Hicks proves to be more in touch with modern life than any politician. If only Blair and Dubyuh died of cancer in 1994...
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Now D2K, wishing death upon your enemies is only suitable for certain people. Like Michael Jackson. Yeah.



