Audio Portal Evolution #2

[Rucklo]

- There have been quite a few threads about suggestions for improvements on the audio portal since the redesign popped up, so if you got something to come with, this is the place to air your suggestions.

- At this point, a few things are coming up, like the ability to DELETE, manage, your own audio. Also, the features in your profile that aren't "available" yet (they're not clickable) - just have patience, it's coming.

- Quite a few things have been suggested, and some things the staff are quite well aware of.
If you decide to make a post in here, at least try to skim through to see if your idea have been suggested already. Chanses are that it have (give this thread a few weeks and you'll see). In time this thread might grow quite large, but still try to check the first few pages or so before suggesting something!

- If your ideas have been suggested or is just ignorant enough, your post and/or account might face administrative actions (post deletetion, ban-time).

- Try to collect all your ideas into one post, and try to structure the ideas so it's easier for everyone to read. Basicly, put some effort into your post

- If you have something to complain about, you are asked to include a full reason why, and also a suggestion to what could be done about it.

- The old thread by DarKside555 was created long before the re-design, so it's fair to say there might be need for a new one.

Here are a few ideas to start with (not all are my own, but quite common to see in the forum);
- # Voice actor genre.
- # More other genres, and possible sub-genres for the larger ones.
- # It's likley to belive that a search button for "full songs" and "loops" is coming up, check the AP frontpage and you'll see what I mean (though I have no admin-confirmation of this).
- # Improvements for the voting system, a "blam" system like the flash-portal have (basicly, all existing flash-features have been suggested, and it's very possible that the staff already have thought through those features for the AP, like "Buddy" options to enable co-artists etc.).
- # Longer character limit for song descriptions.
- # Include "author name" on the frontpage features, and make the genres clickable links.

Your turn, shoot!

[SBB]

Only thing I can think of right now is an ability to upload .wav files- for loops (short ones that is of course). I know you could eventually link the .wav in the description, but it's pretty annoying when someone doesn't use your loop in their flash because "it doesn't loop good", or if you get a review saying "I gave you a nine instead of a ten because it didn't loop very good"

Oh- and I'd really love bringing back the gold/platinum etc stuff- it usually looks prettier- and because the cd art turns pretty ugly with the cut off corners and hole in the middle (where I usually put the main thing when I make my iconz)

:X

[Sp1r1T]

I like being able to check my reviews, Like SBB said, the GOLD/PLAT was good
They should add a Bronze, Silver, Gold, and then God-like after Diamond, like B0UNC3s Paradise on E should have the Godlike CD.

And I would like an edit button, like you can edit entries or Flash

[SBB]

At 9/25/07 03:28 PM, Sp1r1T wrote: They should add a Bronze, Silver, Gold, and then God-like after Diamond, like B0UNC3s Paradise on E should have the Godlike CD.

Ugh

I was more thinking of using the old system

[f2x1]

At 9/25/07 03:16 PM, Rucklo wrote: - # Improvements for the voting system, a "blam" system like the flash-portal have.

I think that the "blam" option isnt quite suitable for AP,because of the 0-voters.
Too much of good stuff might be blamed.
But i realy like the idea about leaving a review when voting 0-1.

[LJCoffee]

I'm pretty certain that this one is already in the works but I think that we should be able to define our own license. When we upload a track, we should be able to select the type of Creative Commons license that we want for that track. As it is now, it's a great license but we were never really given a choice. In addition, we should get one shot to assign a specific CC license to all tracks that are already uploaded if possible.

Once a CC license has been selected I DO NOT think that we should be able to alter ii on our own - that could cause too many license conflicts. I do think that audio mods should be able to do it though on a case by case basis.

[Khuskan]

HI KHUSKAN HERE LOL.

The new system of a page for each songs is... somewhat bloated. It's ridiculously counter-productive when a user wants to view an artists entire repository. Personally, I think a folder style hierarchical system would work wonders here. Click a track in the total list to 'expand' it's information, but still allow it to be played while unexpanded. Everything fits nicely on one page, everyone is happy.

Voting has gone somewhat down the toilet, but to be honest it's better than it was before. The only other suggestion I would like to make is an auto-play list generator where you can select what artists you want to here, sort of like the old audio player in the NG mag with a few more options.

Then again I demand too much and provide too little as of late, I haven't written anything for a good month or two.

[LJCoffee]

At 9/25/07 03:54 PM, Khuskan wrote: an auto-play list generator where you can select what artists you want to here

Damn good idea K!

In addition, we should be able to define a playlist that will stream whatever we want on our user pages. Not the audio collection pages but the user page itself. The audio artists could use this as a way to get people to hear different tracks of thiers and other users who may not have any audio submissions could use this as a nice way to give some audio artists a teensy bit more exposure. Assuming that anyone looks at their page...

Pain in thw ass to set up but a nice idea.

[Sp1r1T]

I bet its From Tesco :D

Anyway, What I would like would be to Make playlists or folders to group your songs like on an ipod.
E.g. Angry Songs.

Also A list of ALL the Top 5s there has ever been, but then again 0 voters will have a Riot in there.

[Nav]

Hmmm...

I have a few unique ideas.

First, there should be a way to view audio from your browser WITHOUT having flash nine. I can't listen on a wii anymore, where I could in the old system.

To elaborate on Khuskan's post, I think it is a good idea to have a folder hierarchy, where you can download all of the songs on one page. I think that there should be a "download all" button, so you can get all of a person's music.

It would be nice if the audio portal had thumbnails when you mouse over a submission, like in the FP, as it would let me see whether I want to listen or not.

Moderators for each section of audio, to regulate the submissions, would be nice, along with giving the existing audio mods additional powers, such as the ability to move submissions, and delete icons. I'm sure that the mods would not abuse those powers.

A customizable audio front page would be awesome! The page itself is pretty simple, sou wouldn't it be cool to see the top 30 DnB submissions, and the top 30 Trance submissions on one page, rather than having to go to each individually?

Finally, it dsoesn't look as though the "great score" and "awesome score" highlights have been enabled yet. That would be helpful, I guess.

However, the range of submissions in the AP is much tighter than in the FP. A song needs to get in the high 4s in order to be heard at all past the original submitting date!

Well, I hope you guys like my suggestions, I'll be back if I think of more!

[Greeksta-69]

Something i think would be really cool is people can choose a song from an audio artist they like and have it right on there userpage with the option to have it play automatically or not :D

[BlackNinjaWarrior93]

I have one idea. How about adding audio batting averages to users' profile pages? Users can look at what their or someone else's batting average from their 3 or more submissions.

For some reason, when I search artists with the search bar on the AP frontpage and go on their icon, everyone's batting average is "4.19." But I'm pretty that'll be fixed.

[BlkAce]

are they also gonna add (saving and blamming) points for voting just like for the FP?

just wondering..

[SolusLunes]

1. Bring back Gold/Plat/Diamond. I liked those. I actually also did a few google searches for those icons, so I could replace my CDs with those :D

2. A page where we can check added reviews. For some sort of layout, have it this way and update every time you look at the page (aka it doesn't count new reviews more than once)

A song (7 reviews, 4 responded to) [Respond to reviews!]
Another song (0 reviews, 0 responses) [Respond to reviews!]
A third song (14 reviews, 13 responses, +1 new review!) [Respond to reviews!]

Something like that. Be so very helpful. And hell, you could implement that sort of thing for Flash authors too.

3. User-defined CC license. Your license is great, but a few changes each song would be very nice.

4. One vote per user system back? We do have a lot of songs clustered around 4.whatever the fuck, and not all of them were good. Back when we could only vote once, sure, zerobombing hurt, but 4.+ was nearly always an indication of a quality song. We switched the zerobombing for a mass crowd of anonymous 4-ishs.

5. Ability to turn off automatic streaming when entering a song page. Seriously. It's annoying when I want to check reviews on my songs.

That's all I can think of at the moment.

[SineRider]

At 9/25/07 03:16 PM, Rucklo wrote: - # Voice actor genre.

There is already one. If you go to submit an audio and scroll down on the genre the bottom one is Voice-Acting, although I don't see it in the genre list in the AP frontpage.

[Chronamut]

individual mods per genre was actually an idea of mine that I proposed to rucklo quite a while ago and was already proposed - so we shall see what happened about that..

and to elaborate on the notification of reviews - that old page where you clicked your "check your audio reviews" link and it brought up all your audio songs - a notification of how many reviews unanswered next to each one - even if it was just like a "new" icon beside it would help IMMENSELY for those of use with more than lets say.. 300 songs lol XD

also when I go to my songs and I have to click on that link that redirects me to my reviews to answer them - thus cutting off my song - that's annoying. Why cant you a) either make it so that I can respond to the reviews all on one page, or b) when you click that link it just brings up the review page in a separate window - not hard to implement.

also I would like to be able to change my icons from the past - and what is up with everything being platinum? It makes it so hard to focus on ANYTHING - I liked the old black records better.

[Pyro-Maniac25892]

My main issue is that you can't tell what genre a song/loop is when it's in the best of all time and new submitions lists.

[TheReno]

Dont bring blam and save here. My god no. Dont need zero bombers who bomb without good reason.

Only thing I can think of is a seperate section on the front ap page with the following:
Contests
Contracts (from companies looking for artists)
Flash music request (for the artist in need of music, we make it for him)

Oh and just make certain music days. Like I dont know ambient day or something. You know what Im trying to say because I cant format it into the right words. So yeah. How bout dem apples?

[ZENON]

I love the new feature that we can quickly check if we got new reviews or something. But, it kills me inside that I've at least a million songs, and checking them takes a long time. I have to scroll very slowly, and that still takes forever.

So... when you don't have a new review, leave it white as it is. But why not make it so that the number turns gold or something, like bold, so you can tell if you got a new review when you're scrolling really fast?

I'm just sayin'.

[Chronamut]

well now itll no longer take me about 2 or 3 hours to check all my songs for new reviews :P

one thing that kinda got me miffed tho - I think that when you respond to your review an then go back to that review page - the "one new review" notification should go away. It should be instantaneous when u have a new review - and instantaneous when it goes away - that would just be my perferance - I'm just glad a system is finally implemented tho ^^

and yay I can change icons of previous songs now!

[Arnas]

Make it so that when you edit your music, the only thing you're not allowed to do is choose another file to replace it. But editing things such as description, album art are allowed. Also make it deletable even if it was used in a submission. Now, what if someone wants to edit the song and change the file? Simply just upload a new song and delete your old one. So yeah, making audio that has been used in submissions deletable wouldn't hurt.

[SBB]

At 9/29/07 06:17 AM, Arnas wrote: Make it so that when you edit your music, the only thing you're not allowed to do is choose another file to replace it.

That's the only reason why I would edit it, to upload a new, improved version... and if I were to do it that way, then I'd hate losing the reviews and stats I had on the previous version

[MaestroRage]

I can agree with Arnas on this one. I want to eventually replace all of my icons, and the ones which are used in flash or have over 3000 listens are dead to that option now. A lot of the description needs changing too as many of them were made for a specific person, or company, who went dead. I have no intentions of providing a link to dead sites, or people who I don't want to affiliate with anymore.

[Chronamut]

You know what?

I HATE voting on flashes - its all such.. garbage.

I want to get my daily voting in by voting on music - 2 points per song - is that so hard to implement?!??!

[HouseMasta]

At 9/29/07 02:19 PM, Chronamut wrote: You know what?

I HATE voting on flashes - its all such.. garbage.

I want to get my daily voting in by voting on music - 2 points per song - is that so hard to implement?!??!

yea prolly... then that'll take away from ppl voting on flashes. i think there should be two voting levels and such. like in RPGS. Hit Points and Magic

[Chronamut]

lol that always pissed me off - you'd get 9999 hit points but only 999 magic points max..

[OctaneVein]

I don't see why blam and save points in the ap would be such a bad idea. If you could get blam and save points here, maybe more people would bother to go here and vote. Plus, they'd vote what they think the song deserves/will get if they want the point.

[SBB]

At 9/29/07 04:37 PM, HouseMasta wrote: i think there should be two voting levels and such. like in RPGS. Hit Points and Magic

Hit points and magic on newgrounds? o_0 wouldn't that be somewhat like...

"Hey look at me guys! I have 8636 Magic!"

"Yeah dude but you've only got 97 Hit Points, so I'm better than you overall"

"Nuh-uh! Magic counts more than Hit Points!"

"Pff, I have 7453 Hit Points, and that sums up for all your "Magic" bullshit"

[Kiddmeizter]

Acoustic Genre.

[Chronamut]

j-pop and "asian" genre