"just Teen Angst??" What???!!!

[Name-Goes-Here]

I was reading through my "God is not real" topic and some people consider that I'm just full of teen angst. You know why we teenagers are full of angst and you know why it's just considered "normal teen behavior"? Because older adults usually don't care about what we have to say. They think we're just being stupid. I know a lot of peers that have a lot to say about the wrongs of society and they are really informed people but adults don't take the time to listen to them, they don't take their thoughts seriously, or they think our thoughts are just plain "silly & cute".

Here's an example, I was talking about atheism at the table the other night, and my dad, who went to Catholic school, defended God's existence. I said He is not real, just hype, and I thought I put up some concrete evidence (I brought science into the conversation), I verbally fought everything he had to say about God's "truthful existence", and when I verbally cornered him, he and my stepmom laughed at everything I had to say. I was emotionally hurt and left the table, even though my plate was still full and was still hungry. I did not go back down there for the rest of the night. They did not apologize until like three hours later even though they usually apologize five minutes later. Can you believe that? My OWN family laughed at my thoughts. I'll probably never get over that (that doesn't mean I am/was emo).

I know I'm displaying teen angst now but this is why all teens feel teen angst: 95% of adults don't take our thoughts seriously. They don't think we are as capable as they are. Technically, we are young adults. I think my thoughts, as a teen, matters as much as the next guy's. I think they should lower the voting age (and anything else you get to do when you're 18) to 16. To me, that is the age of young adulthood.

I am sorry if I wasted your time. This is just something that's really been getting on my nerves lately and just thought I'd throw that out there.

[Infinite-one]

No time wasted. You actually bring up a valid point.

[Strength]

At 9/18/07 03:05 PM, Name-Goes-Here wrote: I am sorry if I wasted your time. This is just something that's really been getting on my nerves lately and just thought I'd throw that out there.

Yeah, no it's true. But the sooner you realize that people are just going to keep doing it, and completely ignoring every opinion you've got, the easier everything is going to be. I really don't even care anymore, and don't bother to have an opinion around adults anymore.

[Chapsticks]

Shmi Cakes.

[mastershake141]

so i have an idea, why don't you go bitch and moan about it on some website? The worlds not perfect, your not always gonna get your way, and some people will never take you seriously, get over yourself!

[x-Exodus-X]

At 9/18/07 03:10 PM, mastershake141 wrote: so i have an idea, why don't you go bitch and moan about it on some website? The worlds not perfect, your not always gonna get your way, and some people will never take you seriously, get over yourself!

I would have put it differently, but it's true. A lot of times people won't take you seriously, you just have to stick with your beliefs and opinions and prove them wrong!

[Strength]

At 9/18/07 03:10 PM, mastershake141 wrote: so i have an idea, why don't you go bitch and moan about it on some website? The worlds not perfect, your not always gonna get your way, and some people will never take you seriously, get over yourself!

I could apply that sensless flame right back onto anything you have to say. It's really alright for people to rant, and be angry. I guess it's just not alright to make rant threads and NOT get flamed by faggots like you.

HERUHYSALKJ

[Duffi]

At 9/18/07 03:05 PM, Name-Goes-Here wrote: I was reading through my "God is not real" topic and some people consider that I'm just full of teen angst.

Meh. It's a controversial topic. I skimmed thorugh the topic, and it didn't seem like anybody called you a angsty teenager.

Because older adults usually don't care about what we have to say. They think we're just being stupid.

However does this is ignorant. I have a great teacher that's always interrested in having a healthy discussion.

Stereotyping someone as a angry teen, and letting it influence a discussion is ridicoules.

I know a lot of peers that have a lot to say about the wrongs of society and they are really informed people but adults don't take the time to listen to them,

Not always. There's much things that could be changed. And luckily, they have their whole teen years to think over it ;)

they don't take their thoughts seriously, or they think our thoughts are just plain "silly & cute".

:he and my stepmom laughed at everything I had to say.

How mature of them. Well, either you didn't convince them, and made some pretty flawed arguments, or, they simply think it's hilarious. Avoid such a serious discussion with them.

They did not apologize until like three hours later even though they usually apologize five minutes later.

Um, yeah.

Can you believe that? My OWN family laughed at my thoughts.

Bahaha, they have the right to. I think it's inappropriate in this situation though.

:adults don't take our thoughts seriously.

That's teen angst.

They don't think we are as capable as they are. Technically, we are young adults. I think my thoughts, as a teen, matters as much as the next guy's.

Perhabs. There's plenty of dim teenagers, and for many, puberty is a hard age. Many teenagers jump the bandwagon on certain opinions, and that's why most people aren't always taken serious.

I think they should lower the voting age (and anything else you get to do when you're 18) to 16.

Oh, god no.

[Reed]

u gay

[Name-Goes-Here]

At 9/18/07 03:10 PM, mastershake141 wrote: so i have an idea, why don't you go bitch and moan about it on some website? The worlds not perfect, your not always gonna get your way, and some people will never take you seriously, get over yourself!

To reiterate: "Technically, we are young adults. I think my thoughts, as a teen, matters as much as the next guy's." And my philosophy is everybody's ideas matter.

[Crazywill]

You make a valid point. I should spend more time listening to teenagers. Lord knows I don't do it enough.

[Name-Goes-Here]

At 9/18/07 03:22 PM, Reed wrote: u gay

Expand please

[unowned]

well youre brought into it at a young age, and when you become a teenager you realize how fucked the world is and your magical kid years where everything is magic is gone

[ThisIsMrLeone]

At 9/18/07 03:27 PM, Name-Goes-Here wrote:

At 9/18/07 03:22 PM, Reed wrote: u gay

Expand please

i think u mean elaborate faggot

[Electric-Bla]

Why would you insult your father by saying that was he believes in is wrong?

[DrHood]

Lower the voting age to 16? Oh, please. Though I don't doubt your intellectual capacity, I highly doubt that OTHER 16-year olds are mature enough to handle that responsibility. I hardly see 18+ year olds that care about their voting right, so I would expect even less from 16-year olds, stuck in their little high school world.

I do agree that there are young people that are intellectually sound, but you have to prove that to others. Just like everybody else.

[reality-check7]

At 9/18/07 03:05 PM, Name-Goes-Here wrote: Can you believe that? My OWN family laughed at my thoughts.

You sound like a bitch. I'd laugh at you too.
Those "arguments" in your "God is not real" thread don't prove shit. So if those were what you used at the dinner table, your family was right in thinking your opinions are "silly and cute", as you put it.

[yellowcard41]

ya,i know how that feels for ure family to laugh at you. in not 16 and i probely cant do the stuff that you can do. but wen my mom needs help i tell her the soultion yet she asked other peaple JUST TO FIND OUT I WAS RIGHT!!!!!!

[goatseluva]

Teenagers aren't taken seriously because they're mostly faggots

[Warrickneff]

Approximatly 100% of adults were teenagers at one point in their life.

Perhaps they don't listen to you because they have more experience. Perhaps they don't listen to you because they look back at their own teenage years and see how dumb they were.

I'm already embarressed at the things I thought of when I was 13, and It's only been 6 years.

Plus, It's not like athiesm has gained any new arguments since...Darwin?

[Name-Goes-Here]

At 9/18/07 03:37 PM, reality-check7 wrote: You sound like a bitch. I'd laugh at you too.
Those "arguments" in your "God is not real" thread don't prove shit. So if those were what you used at the dinner table, your family was right in thinking your opinions are "silly and cute", as you put it.

Those weren't the same arguments I used at the table.

[Name-Goes-Here]

At 9/18/07 03:40 PM, yellowcard41 wrote: ya,i know how that feels for ure family to laugh at you. in not 16 and i probely cant do the stuff that you can do. but wen my mom needs help i tell her the soultion yet she asked other peaple JUST TO FIND OUT I WAS RIGHT!!!!!!

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYIN', MAN! HIGH FIVE!

oh yeah. I forgot we were on the internet. high five anyway!

[marcus88]

At 9/18/07 03:05 PM, Name-Goes-Here wrote: I was reading through my "God is not real" topic and some people consider that I'm just full of teen angst. You know why we teenagers are full of angst and you know why it's just considered "normal teen behavior"? Because older adults usually don't care about what we have to say.

my Mother just tries to make me trust in God but..
I don't care about it

[KemCab]

It's just teen angst.
There's no point in making a fuss over arguments that hardly matter.

[Name-Goes-Here]

At 9/18/07 03:45 PM, goatseluva wrote: Teenagers aren't taken seriously because they're mostly faggots

That is such a ludicrous thing to say.

[Name-Goes-Here]

At 9/18/07 03:35 PM, DrHood wrote: stuff

I like your sig. I just wanted to say that

[Dr-Worm]

But you see, the majority of the people who passed you off as just being angsty on the other thread predominantly were teenagers themselves, so I don't see how this is relevant.

[CHRlST]

There are many factors to which that is attributed to...for example a week ago a girl in my medieval world history class was arguing with a substitute teacher about how the war in Iraq is wrong, the soldiers are brain washed and all kinds of shit...and the teacher wasn't getting emotionally involved but the girl was crying and had a red face and very blunt!

1. Don't get emo involved, act professional and take the other persons opinion into consideration and don't be an ignorant cunt...
2. 2. For this religion "debate"...it's called faith, doesn't matter if you have "proof" god doesn't exist he'll have faith...(also, you could've pointed out that all religions have similair characteristics of the religions before those and have adopted many beliefs as well)
3. Yeah basically just stop thinking everyone is going to agree with you, don't get angry if the person doesn't agree...

[The-evil-bucket]

At 9/18/07 03:05 PM, Name-Goes-Here wrote: I think they should lower the voting age (and anything else you get to do when you're 18) to 16.

So 16 year olds should be able to smoke legally? The reason you can only buy tobacco when you are 18 is because that's when the effect it has on your body sharply decreases. As for the voting age, you are not representative of your entire age group.

[pHuXxXB0xX]

At 9/18/07 04:18 PM, CHRlST wrote: THE TRUTHS

also - you're under 18. no one gives a shit. everyone experiemces this. probably what results in so-called ANGST. end