Good web development software?

[That-Is-Bull]

I downloaded a 15-day trial of Coda, and it's fanfuckingtastic. It's like Dreamweaver but much better and cheaper, and I might buy it 'cause it's one of the few programs I've found worth purchasing.

As this may be the first software that I actually pay for, I want to make sure I'm not missing something.

Anybody know of better web development software for OS X before I buy Coda?

[elbekko]

It looks crowded and sucky :/

[different]

At 9/17/07 09:46 AM, elbekko wrote: It looks crowded and sucky :/

Same with Dreamweaver (at least for me).

You might want to try out TextWrangler (free, what I use), or it's bigger brother BBEdit.

http://www.barebones.com/products/bbedit /
http://www.barebones.com/products/textwr angler/

[elbekko]

Dreamweaver looks crowded on the first glance but you can close/minimise/disable everything you don't need. And it's far from sucky.

Now, just by looking at the screenshots for the suggested software, the syntax highlighter looks ugly, you have a very small actual code view, and it doesn't look like you can easily get rid of useless stuff.

Isn't TextWrangler only for Macs tho?

[different]

Yes, TW is only for OS X. Coda looks nice, but I can't try it because I'm on Panther.

TW is nice because it has the basics - regex search/replace, code highlighting for a large amount of languages, simple interface, soft wrapping text, etc. The only thing it doesn't have that I'd want is code folding.

I wouldn't use Dreamweaver because 90% of it is superfluous to me. I just want to have a fast application that doesn't cost anything and doesn't come with bloat.

[That-Is-Bull]

At 9/17/07 10:03 AM, elbekko wrote: Dreamweaver looks crowded on the first glance but you can close/minimise/disable everything you don't need. And it's far from sucky.

Same with Coda.

Now, just by looking at the screenshots for the suggested software, the syntax highlighter looks ugly, you have a very small actual code view, and it doesn't look like you can easily get rid of useless stuff.

The syntax highlighter is fine and you can customize it if you need to, the code view is the size of the window, and you can very easily get rid of useless stuff.

Don't judge shit just by screenshots. As I said, I actually used Coda, and it's much better and more organized than Dreamweaver in my opinion.

Anyway, I didn't make this thread to debate how good Coda is, should've expected it though. I just want to know if there are any better OS X programs that I may have missed.

[elbekko]

Well, I can hardly judge it by trying it now can I?

But still, I find Dreamweaver to be the best solution on Windows. The rest just doesn't cut it for me.

[CronoMan]

At 9/17/07 10:57 AM, elbekko wrote: Well, I can hardly judge it by trying it now can I?

But still, I find Dreamweaver to be the best solution on Windows. The rest just doesn't cut it for me.

Textpad ;)

[7hxhaeun]

Notepad++ is good for pogramming. It recognize Actionscript code, php, html, asp, css, and more. works on windows.

Smultron is the same thing but for Mac only.

[smulse]

At 9/18/07 10:39 AM, 7hxhaeun wrote: Notepad++ is good for pogramming. It recognize Actionscript code, php, html, asp, css, and more. works on windows.

Smultron is the same thing but for Mac only.

Smultron lol <3

[elbekko]

At 9/18/07 03:33 AM, CronoMan wrote:

At 9/17/07 10:57 AM, elbekko wrote: Well, I can hardly judge it by trying it now can I?

But still, I find Dreamweaver to be the best solution on Windows. The rest just doesn't cut it for me.

Textpad ;)

Just tried that. I still prefer Dreamweaver :P

[Jessii]

I've only used Notepad or Dreamweaver. I've tried BlueVoda or whatever that crap was (I absolutely love the uppercase tags they use, yuck). I may have tried other stuff along the line but don't really remember because it's been a while. I think when I learned HTML I was only using Notepad, then learned about DW and fell in love :D

[Naois]

At 9/17/07 09:59 AM, different wrote: You might want to try out TextWrangler (free, what I use), or it's bigger brother BBEdit.

I'm going to second TextWrangler. It only has code view, but it's what I use, and it works extremely well.

[7hxhaeun]

did you try nvu? it's a WYSIWYG editor like Dreamweaver and it's free. I think it's for windows and Mac OSX.

[smulse]

It's less about the software and more to do with how well you can code. Any simple text editor (with syntax highlighting) should be sufficient, then a browser window open to test. That's all any WYSIWYG editor does.

I find myself using programs such as Dreamweaver less and less every time I code.

[elbekko]

At 9/19/07 09:48 AM, smulse wrote: It's less about the software and more to do with how well you can code. Any simple text editor (with syntax highlighting) should be sufficient, then a browser window open to test. That's all any WYSIWYG editor does.

I find myself using programs such as Dreamweaver less and less every time I code.

Will you STFU about that crap already. It's a totally incorrect assumption that people who use Dreamweaver can't code.

[smulse]

At 9/19/07 10:43 AM, elbekko wrote: It's a totally incorrect assumption that people who use Dreamweaver can't code.

Not the point I was making.

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[citricsquid]

At 9/19/07 10:43 AM, elbekko wrote: Will you STFU about that crap already. It's a totally incorrect assumption that people who use Dreamweaver can't code.

rofl, i use dreamweaver for the code highlighting and hinters, helps me with problems that otherwise i'd go to smulse for. (Not that i don't anyway :))

Dreamweaver is good though, just don't use design view, shits our loads of useless code.

[CronoMan]

My web development environment is visual studio, I don't use the HTML-design window, I like writing in plain text... makes me feel I have full control :P It's cool when you've designed your own controls though, just click here, click there, enter some values there and voila

[greenkube]

At 9/20/07 05:18 AM, CronoMan wrote: My web development environment is visual studio, I don't use the HTML-design window, I like writing in plain text... makes me feel I have full control :P It's cool when you've designed your own controls though, just click here, click there, enter some values there and voila

Wow its nice to hear someone mention Visual Studio.