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At 7/21/03 09:34 PM, _crossbreed_ wrote: God, I hope you're not reffering to this geocitie-worthy website that is supposed to be a government website that offers practically no information about the country, has every laguage available but Korean, was built in Spain, starts in http and not www and ends in .com and not .gov?
http://korea-dpr.com/ ?

It's been verified. I'll get Bakshi to deliver the sources, as he has them saved on his computer.

It's a COUNTRY GUIDE.

http://search.yahoo.com/bin/se...republic+of+Korea&ei=UTF-8

Not the official goverment's website.

At 7/19/03 10:50 PM, BaKsHi wrote: I don't see any info on going to war on the official North Korean Gov't. Site, but the site is full of lies anyways. http://korea-dpr.com . I'm surprised its even official, since it was made in Madrid, Spain.

See this post? This is where you claimed that http://korea-dpr.com is the official website of North Korea. The judgemeharshx also claimed that it was North Korea's official governemnt website. It is not. You don't use it for shits and giggles, my good sir as you told everyone that it was a legitimate website for North Korea's goverment.

At 7/17/03 05:52 PM, karasz wrote: and the economy is bad...

check the stock indexes lately? they are a little less than the levels they were at in '99 (nasdaq about 2000 and NYSE about 10,000). we're just following the natural economic cure. no where left to go but up.

and now time to put in my two cents.

war in Korea is almost a political impossibility. any risk of being unable to win unconditionally will never happen in the US anymore regardless of the cause. stopping the spread of Communism was a cause that was felt by many to be noble after WWII. there has been two wars fought with that premise. one resulted in stalemate and the other in utter humiliation. no one will ever risk sending troops into harm's way unless casualties remain relatively light. a conflict in Korea will not ensure limited casualties regardless of the "War on Terror".

plus the economic fallout may send the global economy into a tailspin that it may never recover from. Seoul is a huge center of commerce in the Far East and the world. it is equal to a Tokyo or Hong Kong. in fact all three are very closely tied with one another; when one goes they all go. more domestically the American consumer goods market will suffer. that includes telecom, TVs, cars, small electronics and more will all but cease in time of war in the Far East. think, if you will, of all the companies with a base or origins in the Far Easst. Nike, Sony, Samsung, Honda, Panasonic, Sanyo, and more than i have time to list.

there are more reasons such as the possibility of world war, Chinese involvement militarily, and more. but i won't go into that unless i'm more willing to do so.

At 7/24/03 02:43 AM, mysecondstar wrote:

At 7/17/03 05:52 PM, karasz wrote: and the economy is bad...

check the stock indexes lately? they are a little less than the levels they were at in '99 (nasdaq about 2000 and NYSE about 10,000). we're just following the natural economic cure. no where left to go but up.

The Dow Jones is nearly 1,000 points from 10,000. Also, when you look at the economy, you're not only looking at the stock market. The economy is filled with a lot of variables, like are consumers purchasing products as rapidly as last year? or Have unemployment levels raised or lowered since last year? As of right now, the United States is at its near-highest unemployment level, and has the largest national debt it has ever had. This destroys consumer confidence, coupled with the Enron/WorldCOM debacles of a year ago. Crippled confidence means that people are not buying as much, which means corporations report lower estimates for the quarter, which in turn frightens stock holders enough to sell off their shares.

You can't just look at the Stock Market and say "It's all good."

I thought that the U.S has WMD in South Korea, so there is a deterrent v North Korea ?

At 7/25/03 07:02 PM, Sophia_7 wrote: I thought that the U.S has WMD in South Korea, so there is a deterrent v North Korea ?

From what I've read, mostly American right now since IHT doesn't have good coverage, we don't have WMD's in South Korea. I might be wrong, however, since we're big on censoring touchy subjects.

At 7/25/03 07:02 PM, Sophia_7 wrote: I thought that the U.S has WMD in South Korea, so there is a deterrent v North Korea ?

Communism.

At 7/24/03 03:03 AM, BaKsHi wrote: Well then crossbreed, show me the legitimate site then.
i have this site verified by scholastic.com news, and some other sources. so what are you getting at?

There is no official website for North Korea's government!

scholastic.com? You have to be joking.

At 7/26/03 08:56 AM, _crossbreed_ wrote:

At 7/24/03 03:03 AM, BaKsHi wrote:

There is no official website for North Korea's government!

scholastic.com? You have to be joking.

You sure do get touchy when your views are challenged more than once.

unemployment is at 6.4%

the dow jones industrial needs to increase by an average of 2 points EVERY DAY until november for bush to not have to hear about it

the slow stream of body bags HAS to stop by august of '04

iraq needs a decent form of self ruling government, armed forces that can stabalize the country

as it looks right now i think bush would barely win... probably by no more then 10 ev's and 2,000 votes...

At 7/24/03 04:34 AM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote: You can't just look at the Stock Market and say "It's all good."

you can just look at the stock market and say it's all good. why? because we're living in the age of the day trader. when people see their destroyed portfolios and see that they coming close to the values they were of old confidence in the market goes up. as that grows stock prices rise. as price per share goes up companies invest more in their products and services. as more and better good are out in the open market more people are willing to buy as they feel secure in their investments and dividends. Bush's tax cuts are giving parent in America up to $400 more per child in tax returns. some of that will go into consumer goods and some into the banks as savings of more investments.

the finer details of economics seem almost inconsequential. simple cause and effect drives the economy it seems. i saw two of my investments take two different turns. my money market sank to 1.08% and my mutual fund was giving me a return of about 10% for my quarterly earnings. they used to be about 4% and 2% respectively 2 years ago. it sure makes me feel good. and i'm sure it'll make a whole ton of other people like me feel good too.

At 7/26/03 09:25 PM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote:

At 7/26/03 08:56 AM, _crossbreed_ wrote:

At 7/24/03 03:03 AM, BaKsHi wrote:

There is no official website for North Korea's government!

scholastic.com? You have to be joking.

You sure do get touchy when your views are challenged more than once.

please, if NK did have a website what would they put on it? millions of people dying of starvation? nuclear facilities being used to make nuclear weapons? daffy duck cartoons?

heres thedealabot nuclear war-fare its like a doublr barreld shot gun with on barel twisded around to point at you. yes u could kill or seriously injure someone but the same would happen to u .if n.korea or assosiate where to send a nuke at america(witch hopefuly will never happen through the rest of american history)the american government would survive find who did it and how the got it then send a few right back.only im sure ours are more powerful.

At 7/27/03 12:52 AM, Deathlock-5 wrote: heres thedealabot nuclear war-fare its like a doublr barreld shot gun with on barel twisded around to point at you. yes u could kill or seriously injure someone but the same would happen to u .if n.korea or assosiate where to send a nuke at america(witch hopefuly will never happen through the rest of american history)the american government would survive find who did it and how the got it then send a few right back.only im sure ours are more powerful.

thus the delicate weave of nuclearr warfare. no one wants to be bombed but the sheer fact that millions may potentially die is enough for no one to use them at all. but then there is always that risk. you know what happens when you corner a stray dog; they bite. that is why the US is dealing with NK the way they are. when a country has nothing to lose it won't matter any more. they'll kill as many as they can right before they meet the same fate. but just as Hiroshima and Nagasaki were two of the most tragic events in the history of mankind any nuclear attack made today will make them look like a tea party and be rivaled only by 9/11.

I could hardly understand anything he said.

At 7/26/03 09:25 PM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote:

You sure do get touchy when your views are challenged more than once.

I get touchy when people post a tourism website as a country's official website and children's book company as a source backing those claims. O_o

Anyways, here are my general thoughts on the possible war with North Korea.

IS EVERYONE BLOODY INSANE? There is no proof that North Korea has any nukes but even if they did, the rest of the world does too, big whoop. Some people say that Kim Jong Il is an even more evil and satanic dictator than Hussein even though he never mass-mudered his own people or even fits in the description of a dictatorship.

Then why invade North Korea?

Oh yes, they're communists. Just like Russia, Cuba, Grenada, and Nicaragua. They're all evil and must be stopped with our weapons of mass freedom. bad bad bad.

At 7/28/03 01:01 AM, BaKsHi wrote:

We just don't know where'd they strike first, but we have prepared ourselves for a surprise attack.

It's America's job to strike first, not foreign "threats".

North Korea has admitted many times to having as many as half a dozen nuclear weapons, and we can trace this claim by the gas emitted into the air when the uranium rods are purified and prepared. The fact is, Korea, unlike Iraq, will be a threat very soon. Anyone can see this, it is not a partisan issue. Something must be done, but I would strongly prefer exhausting all diplomatic responses before considering a possible military attack.

People seem to forget that a shitload of other countries already have nuclear weapons, why single North Korea out?

At 7/28/03 04:55 PM, BaKsHi wrote: Why not spend a little moneyy on self defense from North Korea.

my belief is that bush isnt negotiating witht eh north koreans so this way he can get the missile defense shield program to gain mainstream and wide support...

although i think it would just be easier to give the north koreans the $1 trillion dollars NMD has cost in 20 years to not build nukes anymore but hey im just a crazy college kid

I doubt the government even has a trillion dollars left. It's a sea of red ink out there.

At 7/28/03 08:13 PM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote: I doubt the government even has a trillion dollars left. It's a sea of red ink out there.

Well, we can afford the red ink, can't we?

At 7/29/03 04:39 AM, TheShrike wrote:

At 7/28/03 08:13 PM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote: I doubt the government even has a trillion dollars left. It's a sea of red ink out there.

Well, we can afford the red ink, can't we?

That's why it's all done by computers. I wonder if George Bush has to pay for his internet access. It'd be great to catch him on AIM one day -- GWBombs -- and have a chat with him as you would Wade Fulp or one famous JMHX.

At 7/29/03 04:44 AM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote: It'd be great to catch him on AIM one day -- GWBombs -- and have a chat with him as you would anyone else.

heheheh... Which reminds me.. My good AIM buddy MrUday6969 hasn't been on at all recently... vero odd of him.

At 7/28/03 04:55 PM, BaKsHi wrote: Well Crossbreed, how do you like Kim Jong Il as the North Korean president. Would you rather live there than America?

I live in Canada.

North Korea is ready to launch a nuke at us because they hate us deeply.

No, it's the other way around actually.

At 7/29/03 03:01 PM, _crossbreed_ wrote:

At 7/28/03 04:55 PM, BaKsHi wrote:
North Korea is ready to launch a nuke at us because they hate us deeply.

No, it's the other way around actually.

The Taipo-Dong II Missile is still in the early testing stages, so they couldn't hit us just yet. They could make it trouble for Japan.

North Korea is ready to launch a nuke at us because they hate us deeply.

No, it's the other way around actually.

INCORRECT!

It's both ways, alright? U.S. hates N. Korea, N. Korea hates U.S., and S. Korea isn't terribly pleased one bit. The last time their Northern cousins decided to take a stroll down South, that lasted three years, and took more than two million peeps to quiet things down.