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Response to Everything's America's Fault. 2003-07-18 09:04:06 Reply

Of course! America is absolved of everything. Now go do it over again!

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Response to Everything's America's Fault. 2003-07-18 12:25:32 Reply

At 7/16/03 03:38 AM, misterx2000 wrote: Yeah I noticed how native American "Indians" are now a minority in their own country...and get this...SOME Americans are prejudiced against their forefathers, like surprise surprise, the British, Dutch, French, Portunguese...

They seem to forget that if you're not a native American, then you're a migrant!

Liek OMFG! Some Americans are racist to people from Europe, which is routinely satirized and stereotyped in the media, especially with this entire "Old Europe" debacle Rummy started? Call teh MODZ! [/sarcasm]


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Response to Everything's America's Fault. 2003-07-18 17:28:16 Reply

Cyric16 were you watching tough crowd w/ colin quinn

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Response to Everything's America's Fault. 2003-07-18 22:09:12 Reply

At 7/18/03 03:39 AM, misterx2000 wrote:
Well actually, America has done some good. It's not in the media, so no one knows about it. Sigh...

It's not in the media? hahahahahahsfas. "LIBERATION! FREEDOM! PEACE! More details on your local Fox News station"


I mean, they send aid to a few dozen countries (less after that Int'l Court immunity refusal thing), are reconstructing two countries, and get involved (sometimes needlessly) in conflicts around the globe. Most of these wouldn't have threatened the homeland, but they did it anyway: Kosovo, Bosnia...

That's two, and WWII. That's 3.


OK so not everything should be resolved by force. But at least there's someone to look to when you need leverage in a heated debate.

Yes there is, the U.N.

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Response to Everything's America's Fault. 2003-07-19 10:08:10 Reply

At 7/18/03 01:36 AM, Commander-K25 wrote:
Rebuilding Europe after World War II?

That was nearly 60 years ago. Now, what have they done more recently in nations such as, ooh, let's start with Afghanistan and Iraq, then move backwards?

Leading the democratic nations in the Cold War and resisting dictatorial communism?

Wow, they were spearheading the biggest PR campeign in the 20th Century, which was a pointless exercise in keeping The People scared shitless.

Then theres the fact that, during the Cuban Missile Crisis, your President was so doped up on painkillers he'd be more likely to zonk out and collapse on The Button than do anything worthwhile. The latest Kennedy papers stated just what dosage he was on, and it makes scary reading considering the times he was in charge.

Giving massive amounts of foreign aid and then forgiving many of the debts?

Such as Argentina?

Being one of the top countries in the world for technology and innovation, giving us much of our modern technology?

See also: Japan, Germany. I don't hear them crowing about that one when defending themselves from Reality.

America helped Europe rebuild? — Must have been some kind of plot.
America gives lots of foreign aid? — Must be a hidden agenda.

You know, that's the line Jimswhine used about France in...which Congo did he decide it was again?

You have a preconceived idea that America has always been and always will be wrong and thus, your cynicism will twist or change anything to support that idea.

You have a preconceived idea that America has always been and always will be right and thus, your patriotism will twist or change anything to support that idea.

Same "argument", with a couple of words changed. Does it stand up? That's for your subconscious to decide.

When thinking about America remember: "There are two sides to everything, so what is more likely, that America always wrong and destructive, or that I’m only choosing to see one side of the picture."

Yes, Black and White. That's how Bush sees things, despite the fact it is wrong, WRONG, WRONG. Sahdes of grey, not polarised opposites. Get that idea into your heads, and learn something for a change.


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Response to Everything's America's Fault. 2003-07-19 10:30:54 Reply

Yes, Black and White. That's how Bush sees things, despite the fact it is wrong, WRONG, WRONG. Sahdes of grey, not polarised opposites. Get that idea into your heads, and learn something for a change.

you are blaming the actions of one person on all americans

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Response to Everything's America's Fault. 2003-07-19 10:54:38 Reply

At 7/19/03 10:30 AM, the_collective wrote:
you are blaming the actions of one person on all americans

Well, 10% of you elected him...

Nothing to do with it seems pretty endemic among all Americans - Good/Evil, Right/Wrong, Black/White, American/Other. Jeez, just rifle though the ramblings of Commander, Jimsween, 7OTA, BinLadenMustDie, panik, NemesisZ (sic) - the list grows from there into all of those that are having a witchunt against the fucking Dixie Chicks, for Christ's sake.

You're just represented by him internationally, and that's about all he's there for. Learn this, and try and be different - for the sake of the next 14 generations, for starters...


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Response to Everything's America's Fault. 2003-07-19 10:58:14 Reply

you realize i hate him

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Response to Everything's America's Fault. 2003-07-19 11:01:37 Reply

he didnt get in by popular vote he got in by electoral college

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Response to Everything's America's Fault. 2003-07-19 23:20:47 Reply

At 7/18/03 10:09 PM, _crossbreed_ wrote::


Yes there is, the U.N.

And we know how respectable they are nowadays...after the Iraq debacle during which it was ultimately ignored by the US.

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Response to Everything's America's Fault. 2003-07-20 02:45:48 Reply

At 7/19/03 10:57 PM, BaKsHi wrote: No, everything is the human races fault.

Bakshi wins the frickin prize yall. This is such a simple view, yet it is SO true. Its in our nature to destroy oneanother. You win the prize...come on, somebody give 'em a prize!!

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Response to Everything's America's Fault. 2003-07-20 23:51:05 Reply

At 7/19/03 11:33 PM, BaKsHi wrote: The UN is like a book club now. They argue alot and pass too many laws that most nations can't keep up.

As opposed to bombing people.

The UN just watches as other nations are destroyed, and doesn't have the urge to help them.

Give me an example.

It takes more than 5 million citizens to die in order for the UN to take notice.

What about the U.S? It takes only 3 000 AMERICANS to die before they take notice of other countrie's problems and pretend to solve them. By the way, the U.N. has deployed troops in Congo for the longest time. You don't know squat about this, good sir.

If the UN was quick, and sent in troops right after the Democratic Republic of Congo went up iun flames, Somalia, and Liberia, I bet some problems would of gotten solved.

Yes, then the U.N. would've also been a target in the 9-11 attacks. Nice way to solve things, forcefully dictating the regimes of other countries.

The government that was there before coups could quickly be rebuilt, and the blood would not of been shed.

As proven by Iraq. No blood was shed and the pre-Saddam government was reinstated in no time. </SARCASM> (For you sarcasm-impaired people.)

But of course, the UN only goes in when the rebels have dug in and taken over the government.

While America digs in and topples over governments. Or takes notice when a few planes are flown into their buildings.

If the UN was more aggressive in taking down evil dictators, some problems would of been cured by now.

Which evil dictators?

Stupid UN, huh?

LOL DOOD the un sux and teh US ROCKS!!!1

:The UN is poweress because most countries just follow their own policy if the UN doesn't agree with it.

Uh, no. That is the complete opposite of how the U.N. works. I suggest that you visit their website or read some sort of book before making any more claims about the U.N.

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Response to Everything's America's Fault. 2003-07-21 01:29:40 Reply

Fuck agreed ^^^^

The UN isnt some extension of the rich capitalist white man, its UNITED NATIONS, which include many nations from around the world

The decisions have to be put through alot of chances to be held up, then theres the veto powers which only one country needs to possess, before you slag on UN actions, pick one that annoys you, then track it down to see who vetoed it, or claimed to, you will find that countries have their own not so secret agendas within the UN, and if it doesnt work, its because the powerful nations arent very UNITED at all

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Response to Everything's America's Fault. 2003-07-21 02:12:03 Reply

At 7/19/03 11:33 PM, BaKsHi wrote: The UN is like a book club now.

You saw this one coming. ^_^ If the U.N. is a book club then America is a gun club. HA!

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Response to Everything's America's Fault. 2003-07-21 08:15:42 Reply

At 7/21/03 02:12 AM, _crossbreed_ wrote:
At 7/19/03 11:33 PM, BaKsHi wrote: The UN is like a book club now.
You saw this one coming. ^_^ If the U.N. is a book club then America is a gun club. HA!

Safer to sit down with a good read than to sit down with a loaded gun and an itchy finger.


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Response to Everything's America's Fault. 2003-07-21 13:59:16 Reply

At 7/21/03 08:15 AM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote: Safer to sit down with a good read than to sit down with a loaded gun and an itchy finger.

True, unless you're reading Harry Potter, cos thats crap.

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Response to Everything's America's Fault. 2003-07-21 14:20:54 Reply

I see my little statement made some impact! Someone even used it as his sig! To that person: You can remove the "-PZY- wrote" stuff. You take the honour.

But my opinion on that is that USA is needed, but they also tend to overreact and to things too impulsive. And some times they don't react at all.
USA has such differences, so there is no wonder that it does all sorts of things. I am glad I have the US to watch over the world as an eagle.

But the eagle is a bird of prey. Strong, agile and fearsome, but not necisarely smart...

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Response to Everything's America's Fault. 2003-07-21 15:42:58 Reply

At 7/21/03 02:20 PM, -PZY- wrote: But the eagle is a bird of prey. Strong, agile and fearsome, but not necisarely smart...

They tend to fly into windows. I'd have my national animal as the 'Mosquito' irritating, small, and can kill people.

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Response to Everything's America's Fault. 2003-07-21 16:08:55 Reply

At 7/21/03 03:42 PM, bumcheekycity wrote: They tend to fly into windows. I'd have my national animal as the 'Mosquito' irritating, small, and can kill people.

But too easily killed if only one. You'd need a swarm to pack a punch.

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Response to Everything's America's Fault. 2003-07-21 16:11:09 Reply

At 7/21/03 02:20 PM, -PZY- wrote: But the eagle is a bird of prey. Strong, agile and fearsome, but not necisarely smart...

Thinking that you're snide isn't N E C E S S A R I L Y smart either.

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Response to Everything's America's Fault. 2003-07-21 16:13:15 Reply

I hate when people blame everything on america. Tell me something, where did the nazi's come from? hmmm, how about when another country gets to be as strong and powerful as america then everyone can go off and hate them. Until then, FUCK OFF!!!

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Response to Everything's America's Fault. 2003-07-21 16:20:10 Reply

At 7/21/03 04:11 PM, TheAnarchyPenguin wrote:
At 7/21/03 02:20 PM, -PZY- wrote: But the eagle is a bird of prey. Strong, agile and fearsome, but not necisarely smart...
Thinking that you're snide isn't N E C E S S A R I L Y smart either.

Give me a break here! I am only 13 years old, not even from an english speaking country.

And I think picking on someones spelling is OK as long as you don't make fun of it. But it is OK, cause I need to learn those damn words anyway.

Where did I say I was smart?
*Looks dazzeld around*

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Response to Everything's America's Fault. 2003-07-21 18:13:35 Reply

At 7/21/03 04:13 PM, BootlegJones wrote: I hate when people blame everything on america. Tell me something, where did the nazi's come from? hmmm, how about when another country gets to be as strong and powerful as america then everyone can go off and hate them. Until then, FUCK OFF!!!

And where did the KKK come from? Honestly, every country in the world has a bunch of nutters in it. There are a lot of old Nazis living in the USA. When did people start hating America because they were rich? People don't hate Japan, and the Japanese are rolling in it. People dislike America mainly because of it's "Bite Me" foreign policy.

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Response to Everything's America's Fault. 2003-07-21 18:25:06 Reply

At 7/21/03 06:13 PM, bumcheekycity wrote: And where did the KKK come from? Honestly, every country in the world has a bunch of nutters in it. There are a lot of old Nazis living in the USA. When did people start hating America because they were rich? People don't hate Japan, and the Japanese are rolling in it. People dislike America mainly because of it's "Bite Me" foreign policy.

Japan's economy is on a steady downhill, or am I wrong?
Every country has its flaws, because ppl is not perfect. The reason ppl Hate usa is because they shoot first, think afterwards.

But I think we need that, or nothing would happen.

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Response to Everything's America's Fault. 2003-07-21 20:30:37 Reply

-I agree with all that stuff. All you people who hate America really have no clue whats goin on. And how America and Americans help the world. Maybe we should post threads about all the things your nation did wrong? And I agree with the posts before that explained how it wasnt Americas fault. So stop bein simple minded fools and actually know some shit before lookin like a hateful jackass.

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Response to Everything's America's Fault. 2003-07-21 20:35:04 Reply

-I saw a post before about 'Native Americans'. There is no true 'Native Americans' because every single person in America came from somewhere else. Like a boat or land bridge. And Europeans, Asians and everyone else came from Africa. So in a way everyone is a immigrant so STFU with all this pure nationality shit.

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Response to Everything's America's Fault. 2003-07-21 21:04:16 Reply

At 7/21/03 08:35 PM, AC_Squall wrote: -I saw a post before about 'Native Americans'. There is no true 'Native Americans' because every single person in America came from somewhere else. Like a boat or land bridge. And Europeans, Asians and everyone else came from Africa. So in a way everyone is a immigrant so STFU with all this pure nationality shit.

Umm...maybe you don't know what a native American is. Does it clear it up more if I say Indian? They did come over on a land bridge where present day Alaska is(that no longer exists) but they are considered native Americans and that is what people are talking about when they mention Native American.

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Response to Everything's America's Fault. 2003-07-21 21:17:06 Reply

At 7/21/03 09:04 PM, Silvern wrote:
At 7/21/03 08:35 PM, AC_Squall wrote: -I saw a post before about 'Native Americans'. : Umm...maybe you don't know what a native American is.

-Yeah I know who they are talkin about. Its just I dont consider them native.

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Response to Everything's America's Fault. 2003-07-21 21:41:26 Reply

Native Americans never came here on some bullshit land bridge. Thank you and good day.

http://www.calverley.ca/Part01-FirstNations/01-006.html
http://www.science-frontiers.com/sf051/sf051a01.htm
http://www.cabrillo.cc.ca.us/~crsmith/firstamer.html

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Response to Everything's America's Fault. 2003-07-21 23:33:39 Reply

At 7/21/03 09:41 PM, _crossbreed_ wrote: Native Americans never came here on some bullshit land bridge. Thank you and good day.

But they came from somewhere and eventually trace back to Africa like all homo sapiens do.