Ann Coulter

[dudeitsallama]

There's something wrong with America today. And that something is embodied in Ann Coulter. For those of you who don't know who she is, let me elaborate. She is quite possibly the most fascist political writter in the country. You might have seen her on Bill Mahr's HBO talkshow (she was the one getting booed). She is about as far right as you can go on the political scale without being a full blown nazi. Now more than ever, she's claiming that ALL liberals are anti-American traitors. She has said on the Daily Show, "There are many bad Republicans; there are no good Democrats." Here's a column she recently wrote about liberals and our traitorous lies: http://www.anncoulter.org/columns/2003/062503.htm
A little while ago, she published her new book Treason and now I'm seeing it in bookstores as much as the new Harry Potter book. I know that there are lots of rednecks that have always thought of liberals as traitors, but it worries me when well educated people openly admit having these same beliefs. What's even worse is that the public seems to accept this as nothing out of the ordinary.

What are your thoughts on this?

[RoboTripper]

I don't think Coulter even believes what she is saying, she just knows that spewing hate is a good way to sell books. One of her latest causes? To prove that Joe McCarthy is a great American patriot who was brought down by the evil communist traitorous left-wingers. Gimme a break. Her facts are also pretty suspect as well, Spinsanity (a site that takes shots at both the left and right) points out some of them:

http://www.spinsanity.org/columns/20030630.html

PS: I've heard some people refer to Ann as a "babe". If you think Ann's a "babe", you seriously need to get your standards in order.

[JMHX]

Ann Coulter, as unprofessional at this may seem, should be dragged into the street and executed. She's worse than Jerry Springer -- who puts up quite the effective political argument, mind you!

[TheShrike]

Yep. She's the jimsween of the right, all right.

[SpEeDFiReSrFr]

At 7/12/03 07:51 PM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote: Ann Coulter, as unprofessional at this may seem, should be dragged into the street and executed. She's worse than Jerry Springer -- who puts up quite the effective political argument, mind you!

Dragged into a street and executed? THAT's why the left seems like such a hateful and traitorous side. Yes, she is a bit TOO right, but everyone is entitled to their opinions.

[karasz]

At 7/12/03 09:11 PM, SpEeDFiReSrFr wrote:

At 7/12/03 07:51 PM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote: Ann Coulter, as unprofessional at this may seem, should be dragged into the street and executed. She's worse than Jerry Springer -- who puts up quite the effective political argument, mind you!

Dragged into a street and executed? THAT's why the left seems like such a hateful and traitorous side. Yes, she is a bit TOO right, but everyone is entitled to their opinions.

well isnt judgemeharshx just shouting out HIS opinion??? so basically what ur saying is that its ok to have an opinion just so long as you arent killing someone.... which by the way coulter said at my college mind you- (during the sniper shootings) the question asked was "with the recent sniper attacks in dc, do you keep the same stance or do you think gun control is the better way to go???" her response "america doesnt need gun control... it needs muslim control..."

so ya know she's a nazi, that makes money bitching and moaning about a left wing conspiracy... but then the clintons bitch and moan about a right wing conspiracy and they get attacked... personally all sides are wrong...

[SpEeDFiReSrFr]

I don't think anyone needs to be executed for an opinion. And I doubt she said "muslim control." I'll give ya this much: she is a bit too right.

[karasz]

At 7/13/03 11:45 AM, SpEeDFiReSrFr wrote: I don't think anyone needs to be executed for an opinion.

so what ur saying is hitler, saddam, AND stalin are all wrong... (kidding i know they arent)

And I doubt she said "muslim control."

actually she did, as told back to me by 2 professors that were there, one of which debated her, and about 3 dozen different students said so also... unless that is all part of the left wing conspiracy too...

I'll give ya this much: she is a bit too right.

thats like saying india is a bit too poor... come on... seriously SHE IS FAR RIGHT... no ifs ands or buts about it...

[dudeitsallama]

This debate leads me to my next question. Are people like Ann Coulter beneficial or detrimental to our society?

On one hand, Coulter is a crazy nazi bitch (or at least pretends to be one to get her books sold). The stuff she says promotes blind hate. It makes some people want to go out and kill Muslims or liberals or anyone else that she calls a traitor.

On the other hand, without people on the far right, people on the far left would dominate politics. We all know that neither extreme is good. With people on both extremes, it tends to make society in general more balanced and open minded, allowing intelligent people to form their own opinions without being bombarded by propaganda from only one side. As for the violence that her words may inspire, there will always be people who use force to push their views on others. Even some of Ghandi's followers used violence. It's kind of like that movie The Last Supper.

So what do you think? Does our society need people like her, or should we hang her upside down from a tree and beat her with copies of her books?

[RoboTripper]

At 7/14/03 01:29 AM, dudeitsallama wrote:

So what do you think? Does our society need people like her, or should we hang her upside down from a tree and beat her with copies of her books?

I choose option C... both.

I agree with you that a balance is necessary, but I have a much greater distaste for those on the extreme right like Coulter, Rush, and Michael Savage. These people and their peers act very prejudiced towards those who are different than themselves, whether they be Muslims, homosexuals, liberals, whatever. It just seems that the far right is much more intolerant towards differences than the far left.

[SpEeDFiReSrFr]

At 7/13/03 11:56 AM, karasz wrote:

At 7/13/03 11:45 AM, SpEeDFiReSrFr wrote: I don't think anyone needs to be executed for an opinion.

And I doubt she said "muslim control."

actually she did, as told back to me by 2 professors that were there, one of which debated her, and about 3 dozen different students said so also... unless that is all part of the left wing conspiracy too.

Yeah she isn't the smartest debator I've ever seen. Don't even get me started on dumb blone jokes >:)

[AbstractVagabond]

At 7/14/03 12:51 PM, Crack_Smoker wrote:

At 7/14/03 01:29 AM, dudeitsallama wrote:

So what do you think? Does our society need people like her, or should we hang her upside down from a tree and beat her with copies of her books?

I choose option C... both.

I agree with you that a balance is necessary, but I have a much greater distaste for those on the extreme right like Coulter, Rush, and Michael Savage. These people and their peers act very prejudiced towards those who are different than themselves, whether they be Muslims, homosexuals, liberals, whatever. It just seems that the far right is much more intolerant towards differences than the far left.

Isn't Coulter so far right, her fans attack Rush Limbaugh for being a liberal? Or am I putting her TOO far right?

I don't want to say to hang her just because of her opinions because she has a right to her opinions. Question is how much violence could or would be attributed to her comments. I don't think the 1st admendment applies to inciting acts of violence, does it?

[JMHX]

Well, I told you it would sound unprofessional, and the fact that I wrote it after no sleeping wasn't helping. I now adopt a more JudgeMeHarshX-ish conservative view of the situation. The book she has published and the views she holds -- it's true, she's the Jimsween of the conservative media. Just like Bill O'Reilly, people will buy the book and tune in to the show just to see what insane ranting both of them spew out. They're a dangerous source of entertainment.

[stafffighter]

This reminds me of an old saying. I said ti awhile ago so its old.

Being well educated dosen't mean your not an idiot.

[stafffighter]

I remember when I saw that lady republican defending the congressman who hated gay people. She had the same satisfied smile as the mind controlling monster on Angel.

[TimScheff]

I think people like AC serve an important role for those of a similar mind yet not as extreme, and it goes for both the extreme right and extreme left. The number of far right voices has been significant in recent years. This has left the republican party with the ability to move generally to the right but still have the generalized appearance of moderates. This has benefited Democrats in the past (such as Roosevelt showing he was not as extreme as the Socialists and Communists, while still pushing for very left policies). Clinton only helped the Republican/right shift because of his generally moderate positions. This left the democrats without a very strong left voice, while the republicans/right cast bill and hilary as left as possible.
Unfortunately, there is not a very strong group of left voices (perhaps the best example on the left is routinely cancelled Jim Hightower and Michael Moore). AC isn't concerning so much for her ideas (which I very much disagree with) but because she is not balanced out. Developing attacks on socialist and communist ideas now (or the further left in general) makes left voices seem less credible and reduces their chances of being heard to balance out the right. As long as there is a far right chorus, the centrist line between the left and right can be continually blurred towards the right end of the spectrum.

[JMHX]

Well, if anything, Ann Coulter shows me what not to do when running for elected office.

[dudeitsallama]

At 7/18/03 12:33 PM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote: Well, if anything, Ann Coulter shows me what not to do when running for elected office.

I don't know about that. The blame liberals and minorities approach worked pretty well for Hitler. And it seems to me that Coulter's book is selling a lot better than Mein Kampf.

Ann Coulter, president of the United States. *shudders* What a horrifying thought. She'd deport all the New York cab drivers and put the state of California on trial for treason. Minorities would flee in terror as bands of rednecks patrol the streets with a shotgun in one hand and a beer can in the other.

[dudeitsallama]

At 7/18/03 05:09 PM, BaKsHi wrote: People just buy her book to laugh at it!

That doesn't make her any less rich or famous. The more her book sells, the more she appears on tv and if you hear the same propaganda long enough, you'll start to believe it no matter how stupid it is.

[JMHX]

At 7/18/03 04:46 PM, dudeitsallama wrote:

At 7/18/03 12:33 PM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote: Well, if anything, Ann Coulter shows me what not to do when running for elected office.

I don't know about that. The blame liberals and minorities approach worked pretty well for Hitler. And it seems to me that Coulter's book is selling a lot better than Mein Kampf.

The numbers Mein Kampf sold in the years leading up to World War II have set a standard Coulter hasn't hit yet. Either way, Hitler had a way of sugar-coating to make it sound like the Jews were responsible but in a civil way that appealed. Ann Coulter is just brash.

[bumcheekcity]

Mein Kampf is an amazingly well-written book. I've got a copy of it somewhere, even though I agree with none of it.

Don't describe people as far-right when they have fashist views. Left and Right merely mean your views on ecoomics. Stalin was Left-Wing, and Hitler is Centre-Wing, whilst some Right-Wing people have very liberal Ideas.