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Why dont we just nuke the world?

One thing:

At 9/3/07 08:50 PM, cellardoor6 wrote: Chavez is just getting increasingly more popular in South America, it's possible that his "Socialist Revolution" could spread to other countries, if not by force, then by cozying up with them and dividing them from other South American countries that are more friendly to the US and the UK specifically.

I don't see that happenning. Even the countries that have leaders with some degree of politial affinity with Chávez (Nicaragua, Ecuador and Bolivia, namely) have slowly begun to take more cautious measures regarding their relations with Chávez, despite some initial snuggling.
Other than that, the only die-hard Chávist that stood a chance in the last few elections was Ollanta Humala in Perú, and right now there are no leftist radicals with significant popularity that could run for candidates in any Latin American nation, except maybe in Central America since I don't really know what's going on in there.

Chavez says a lot of things, he's an ass.

You know I seam to remember a man by the name of Che Guevara wonder what happened to him hmm...

Chavez watch your back or you'll die of "Battle wounds" big finger quotes hehhehehe Kill HIM already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!

At 9/2/07 07:07 PM, Korriken wrote: Venezuela vs the UK... thats kind of like a normal person vs a dragon.... yeah, that'll end well for Chavez.... he takes a swing, then the dragon eats his face...

Dude, have you seen the quality of troops the UK military has? The only people that seem to be able to flunk out of school these days (Blair and his target hitting system gave us record GCSE and A-Level pass rates...and record levels of GCSE and A-Level aged graduates that are illiterate and innumerate: work that out) are handed an SA80 and told to stand where Bush wants them to stand: quite often without all the necessary equipment, such as weapons, body armour, ammunition, uniforms.

So, when we send a few platoons of chavs in their boxer shorts with nothing but the rocks they find on the ground and harsh language as weapons (unfortunatly, even a bi-lingual Venezuelan wouldn't know what form of English comes from their mouths), it'll be a tad embarassing.

And this is before taking into account the number deployed in Afghanistan and Iraq weakening the reserves we could send over there - in other words, maybe Chavez knows what he's doing afterall.

At 9/8/07 01:19 PM, D2Kvirus wrote:

And this is before taking into account the number deployed in Afghanistan and Iraq weakening the reserves we could send over there - in other words, maybe Chavez knows what he's doing afterall.

Hahaha. The "chavs" out there fighting the Taliban are about 100x times more of a man than you will ever be.

Anyway, if you honestly think that Venezuela has any chance against the UK then you are sadly mistaken. Our training, equipment, experience and allies are far greater than Venezuela can stand up against.

If the UK even dares raise a hand against chavez they'll be mocked for atleast 10 years for possing unecessary agression against a soverign nation; not to mention socialist meaning that the government is established for the sheer purpose of bringing food and medicine to the poor who need it.

Even if Venezuela attacked first; if the UK dared fight back they'll be back in the ranks of imperialistic america under the fascist leader george w bush.

War is not as simple as it used to be... the whole world has to know that you're bleeding needlessly to death to realise that you're the 'good guys'... at which point resistance is futile... and even then political reserves standing that bleeding nation needs a status quo in the international market to gain any real sympathy towards destruction.

And lastly, chavez is not going to commit to violence against other nations untill he goes palpatine.

http://members.shaw.ca/david.p.z.888/sta r_wars/pics/palpatine.jpg - Chavez now

http://www.setbb.com/swevreni/images/ava tars/swevreni/12795683124558b96ae63b9.jp g - What chavez would look like if he descided to execute order 66.

At 9/9/07 09:59 AM, SmilezRoyale wrote: If the UK even dares raise a hand against chavez they'll be mocked for atleast 10 years for possing unecessary agression against a soverign nation;

By whom? Regardless of what people's opinions are on The Falklands being under the rule of the UK, they can't avoid the fact that Venezuela's military is poorly trained and ill equipped. The only reason we
would attack him would be if he tries to "liberate" the Falklands, then he would be in the wrong for invading and causing aggression against a sovereign nation, not us.

At 9/9/07 09:28 AM, 2wiceBorn wrote:

At 9/8/07 01:19 PM, D2Kvirus wrote:

And this is before taking into account the number deployed in Afghanistan and Iraq weakening the reserves we could send over there - in other words, maybe Chavez knows what he's doing afterall.

Hahaha. The "chavs" out there fighting the Taliban are about 100x times more of a man than you will ever be.

Really? That's funny - the only way chavs usually stand up to me is if there's about ten of them, so that would put your maths into the "wrong" category.

Anyway, if you honestly think that Venezuela has any chance against the UK then you are sadly mistaken. Our training, equipment, experience and allies are far greater than Venezuela can stand up against.

Even though we sent over 2000 more troops than items of body armour to Iraq, along with only half the number of medics needed for when they get shot in places that should be armoured? Or that tanks and APCs aren't fully equipped?

So, if they were sent to Iraq without equipment (or weapons, or uniforms), and the average British soldier is a sschool dropout of country boy, most of which are deployed already (way to miss that point!), thus making a wholescale invastion of Venezuela a bit difficult without pulling them out of Iraq - which Brown doesn't have the proverbials to do anyway.

At 9/9/07 02:20 PM, D2Kvirus wrote:

and the average British soldier is a sschool dropout of country boy, most of which are deployed already

5000 In Iraq. 700 in Afghanistan. That's roughly nine percent of our total Army population.

P.S My brother is in the Coldstream Guards, and passed all GCSE and A Level exams at B/A

At 9/10/07 10:16 AM, 2wiceBorn wrote:
P.S My brother is in the Coldstream Guards, and passed all GCSE and A Level exams at B/A

Which begs the question: Why didn't he get a proper job?

Wait...

Don't people have to graduate highschool or get an equivalence diploma to enlist in the British military? I could swear that I've heard this multiple times from British people as some sort of proof that their military accepts more educated people than the US military.

(Never minding that the US military actually does require highschool or equivalent diplomas)

At 9/16/07 05:36 PM, cellardoor6 wrote: Wait...

Don't people have to graduate highschool or get an equivalence diploma to enlist in the British military? I could swear that I've heard this multiple times from British people as some sort of proof that their military accepts more educated people than the US military.

(Never minding that the US military actually does require highschool or equivalent diplomas)

Ha, no shit? That was one of the only reasons I graduated highschool, so I can join the military. Gotta love the British fetish with shoving their advantages in our noses, even when we have the exact same 'advantage' ourselves =p

At 9/16/07 11:21 AM, D2Kvirus wrote:

At 9/10/07 10:16 AM, 2wiceBorn wrote:
P.S My brother is in the Coldstream Guards, and passed all GCSE and A Level exams at B/A

Which begs the question: Why didn't he get a proper job?

It is. Show me one thing that isn't proper about it.

Show some respect. The only reason you can voice your opinion is because of people like him, not spineless, bottom feeding excuses like yourself.

At 9/18/07 01:30 PM, Raveinx wrote: Instead, Chavez should seek to retake British Guyana (bordering Venezuela). Now, THAT land actually BELONGED to Venezuela, and was robbed by the British in the late 1800s-early 1900s.

Guyana? That is an independent country. Only a small part of it is disputed with Venezuala if memory serves, not the whole country.

At 9/18/07 01:30 PM, Raveinx wrote: Instead, Chavez should seek to retake British Guyana (bordering Venezuela). Now, THAT land actually BELONGED to Venezuela, and was robbed by the British in the late 1800s-early 1900s.

Or he could help Colombia take Panama back, but Venezuela and Colombia are not that much of good friends, and the US is in the middle.

I could take the last "and" away.

The Falklands are well it's the Iwo Jima of South America, the Alcatraz of South America, rocky, unpleasant, well rocky and unpleasant. Why all the fuss over such a useless island.

At 9/19/07 03:01 AM, hongkongexpress wrote: Why all the fuss over such a useless island.

Pride, something us Argentinians are well-known for among our fellow South Americans.

At 9/19/07 07:54 PM, Der-Lowe wrote:

At 9/19/07 03:01 AM, hongkongexpress wrote: Why all the fuss over such a useless island.

Pride, something us Argentinians are well-known for among our fellow South Americans.

ahh pride.. never underestimate the stupidity of men who will fight, kill and die for 'pride', 'patriotism', and 'honor'.

At 9/18/07 01:41 PM, 2wiceBorn wrote:

At 9/16/07 11:21 AM, D2Kvirus wrote:

At 9/10/07 10:16 AM, 2wiceBorn wrote:
P.S My brother is in the Coldstream Guards, and passed all GCSE and A Level exams at B/A

Which begs the question: Why didn't he get a proper job?

It is. Show me one thing that isn't proper about it.

Show some respect. The only reason you can voice your opinion is because of people like him, not spineless, bottom feeding excuses like yourself.

Show some respect, to somebody who is taught not to think for themselves and is the tool of whoever happens to be in charge and sent to wherever they're invading that week, regardless of any logical, rational or legal reason to do so.

If anyone's spineless, it's those that parrot "Sir, yes, sir!" at the end of every sentence, because they don't have the courage to say a simple word: No.

At 9/22/07 02:40 PM, D2Kvirus wrote:

At 9/18/07 01:41 PM, 2wiceBorn wrote:

At 9/16/07 11:21 AM, D2Kvirus wrote:

At 9/10/07 10:16 AM, 2wiceBorn wrote:
P.S My brother is in the Coldstream Guards, and passed all GCSE and A Level exams at B/A

Which begs the question: Why didn't he get a proper job?

It is. Show me one thing that isn't proper about it.

Show some respect. The only reason you can voice your opinion is because of people like him, not spineless, bottom feeding excuses like yourself.

Show some respect, to somebody who is taught not to think for themselves and is the tool of whoever happens to be in charge and sent to wherever they're invading that week, regardless of any logical, rational or legal reason to do so.

If anyone's spineless, it's those that parrot "Sir, yes, sir!" at the end of every sentence, because they don't have the courage to say a simple word: No.

Coldstream Guards don't say Yes, Sir. They just say Sir.

Suppose a dictator needs a good shoeing in the Middle East. Suppose there is a hostage situation ( Iranian Embassy sort of thing). Who's going to sort that out? Would you?

At 9/2/07 03:06 PM, 2wiceBorn wrote:

So, reckon he's just trying to look tough infront of his people?

Yes.

At 9/16/07 05:36 PM, cellardoor6 wrote: Wait...

Don't people have to graduate highschool or get an equivalence diploma to enlist in the British military? I could swear that I've heard this multiple times from British people as some sort of proof that their military accepts more educated people than the US military.

Officers go to Sandhurst, where they learn to live in a bubble totall divorced from reality (i.e. somebody happens to be shooting at you), and learn how to be superior and that no matter what, their plans will always succeed. This is slighly funnier on The Apprencice as opposed to, say, having your platoon mown down in a matter of seconds by sniper fire that you assumed wouldn't be there.

Grunts, however, are grunts - they just want some cannon fodder, and that's where the dullards come in (sorry, the troops acknowledged as dullards - the officers are usually as thick, if not thicker).

At 9/24/07 02:49 PM, 2wiceBorn wrote:
Coldstream Guards don't say Yes, Sir. They just say Sir.

That they say less than your average US grunt either means they have a stunted vocabulary (not exactly a shock if you look at the average chav drop-out), or the officers have a short attention span.

Suppose a dictator needs a good shoeing in the Middle East. Suppose there is a hostage situation ( Iranian Embassy sort of thing). Who's going to sort that out? Would you?

The Iranian Embassy, where the SAS overreacted to the point one of the Iranians had 76 shots in his corpse, and when they stormed in one of the hostages was shot in response? If I want gung-ho men with guns storming in, I'll look vaguely Arabic at Stockwell tube station.

At 9/30/07 01:05 PM, D2Kvirus wrote:

The Iranian Embassy, where the SAS overreacted to the point one of the Iranians had 76 shots in his corpse, and when they stormed in one of the hostages was shot in response? If I want gung-ho men with guns storming in, I'll look vaguely Arabic at Stockwell tube station.

The reason the terrorist had 76 shots in him was because he pulled a grenade out in a room full of SAS evacuating the hostages down the stairs.

Havnt really got anything to add to this topic just thougth I'd put a bit of context in there.

just try it Chavez, see what happens! go on I dare ya!! .....yeah thats right, go get your ass pwned by the brits!!!!!!!!!, thought you wouldnt....* asshole*

He's not gonna do it, so wh yare we gettin so pissed 'bout it anyway? Chavez's just another third world dictator that needs some sense bombed into him.

At 9/30/07 03:54 PM, Bramly-apple wrote:
The reason the terrorist had 76 shots in him was because he pulled a grenade out in a room full of SAS evacuating the hostages down the stairs.

Havnt really got anything to add to this topic just thougth I'd put a bit of context in there.

One well-placed shot to the head does the job: spraying at least 76 rounds in his general direction is as likely to injure/kill any hostage in the vicinity: and if one of the rounds hit the grenade (yes, I know this is an "if"), couldn't that have set it off - thus doing his job?

It's a very British trait: overreacting in a situation when you happen to have a gun (see also: Jean Charles de Menezes, Death on the Rock, Lee Clegg, Bloody Sunday, Forest Gate, Harry Stanley & the table leg, etc.).

At 10/6/07 01:24 PM, D2Kvirus wrote:

At 9/30/07 03:54 PM, Bramly-apple wrote:

One well-placed shot to the head does the job: spraying at least 76 rounds in his general direction is as likely to injure/kill any hostage in the vicinity: and if one of the rounds hit the grenade (yes, I know this is an "if"), couldn't that have set it off - thus doing his job?

It's a very British trait: overreacting in a situation when you happen to have a gun (see also: Jean Charles de Menezes, Death on the Rock, Lee Clegg, Bloody Sunday, Forest Gate, Harry Stanley & the table leg, etc.).

Well each SAS member has to have quick reactions and be able to think for themselves, so everyone in the room saw the terrorist threat and shot him instantly. I'm pretty sure he had 26 shots in him not 76 but I could be mistaken.

They cant threaten the UK our island turns in to a giant robot on the command of the secret pm.
Me.
UK= Uncontrollable Killbot

At 10/6/07 01:41 PM, Bramly-apple wrote:

At 10/6/07 01:24 PM, D2Kvirus wrote:

At 9/30/07 03:54 PM, Bramly-apple wrote:

One well-placed shot to the head does the job: spraying at least 76 rounds in his general direction is as likely to injure/kill any hostage in the vicinity: and if one of the rounds hit the grenade (yes, I know this is an "if"), couldn't that have set it off - thus doing his job?

It's a very British trait: overreacting in a situation when you happen to have a gun (see also: Jean Charles de Menezes, Death on the Rock, Lee Clegg, Bloody Sunday, Forest Gate, Harry Stanley & the table leg, etc.).

Well each SAS member has to have quick reactions and be able to think for themselves, so everyone in the room saw the terrorist threat and shot him instantly. I'm pretty sure he had 26 shots in him not 76 but I could be mistaken.

It says 76 here.

If they were really thinking for themselves they wouldn't have sprayed bullets - and the fact is the MP5's they used had a 30-round magazine, so at least three members of the attack party would have been firing to reach 76. And some comments that have come out give the impression they wanted to shoot the hell out of the place.

they were doing their jobs, drop it.