The penny not accepted

[IOUPAIN]

me and my friend got 10000 pennies and went to taco bell ( lol ) and they wouldnt accpet it. legal tender. are they allowed to do that?

[slackerzac]

You really think they wanted to count all the pennyies needed to pay for your food? If you rolled the pennies first then I can understand why you would be, upset because taco bell rules. But nobody wants to count up hundreds of pennies.

[Ropedgag12345]

At 8/29/07 08:59 PM, IOUPAIN wrote: me and my friend got 10000 pennies and went to taco bell ( lol ) and they wouldnt accpet it. legal tender. are they allowed to do that?

it's there business, so yeahy. unless they were like "Fuck Off"

[rockybolan]

Yes, they are allowed to do that. Stores have the right to refuse service to anyone.

[reviewer-general]

At 8/29/07 08:59 PM, IOUPAIN wrote: me and my friend got 10000 pennies and went to taco bell ( lol ) and they wouldnt accpet it. legal tender. are they allowed to do that?

First, you an your friend are a bit of assholes ;) =D (it's okay, I am too at times)

And yes. if it were my store I would forcibly beat you before ejecting you from the premesis.

Hey, in some cities you have to pay for that. ;)

;

[EndGameOmega]

Legality of your situation is in a bit grey area. The federal court system has ruled several time that the "Coinage Act of 1965" dose not require creditor to accept US currency for the repayment of dept. However, in every case there was a clear distinction, in that the debiter was aware of the non acceptance of US currency before the transaction took place. So unless taco bell had a sign up saying they would not accept pennies for transaction, then they may be liable. Your case is made a little stronger in that they do accept pennies as partial payments. I'm not a lawyer, and this is not legal advice, but from how I understand the legal system if there is no policy for it, and no notification then it would seam that taco bell is in the wrong.

[Elfer]

At 8/29/07 08:59 PM, IOUPAIN wrote: me and my friend got 10000 pennies and went to taco bell ( lol ) and they wouldnt accpet it. legal tender. are they allowed to do that?

Yes. You went into their store with the intention of being a dick, so they didn't serve you.

Tough shit.

[stafffighter]

I think tom green did that in like 1998. So you're not really being origional. I miss the tom green show. Did you know it's not the green tom show?

[fli]

At 8/29/07 08:59 PM, IOUPAIN wrote: me and my friend got 10000 pennies and went to taco bell ( lol ) and they wouldnt accpet it. legal tender. are they allowed to do that?

I've worked in a bank.
I can answer your question.

YES.
Because pennies are difficult to use in masse. So, you don't always know if each role will have 50 cents each, or if it has those stupid Canadian pennies.

Heck, I never accepted pennies that was above one dollar.
You can, however, deposite your pennies. The bank will zip it up in a bag and send it to a place where it's sorted out exactly. Once it's counted, then it's deposited in your account. Takes about a week, but that's how it is...

[tony4moroney]

At 8/29/07 08:59 PM, IOUPAIN wrote: me and my friend got 10000 pennies and went to taco bell ( lol ) and they wouldnt accpet it. legal tender. are they allowed to do that?

LOL that's hilarious. i think im gonna have to do this.

[mariomusicmaker1]

LOL eb games wouldn't take my roll of toonies, i ripped the pack open and threw them on the counter then when i got my game ( 10 $ ps game) i promptly took it out of the package and snaped it in half and threw the bag at the guy,
wow i was pissed off, i was saving those toonies for months and i had to go home with 39 of them loose in my pocket,
lol fun day,

about 4 weeks later i found the same game at a yard sale so im happy.

Ff TACTICS OWNS!

[Dash-Underscore-Dash]

At 8/29/07 11:58 PM, mariomusicmaker1 wrote: LOL eb games wouldn't take my roll of toonies, i ripped the pack open and threw them on the counter then when i got my game ( 10 $ ps game) i promptly took it out of the package and snaped it in half and threw the bag at the guy,

Are you bipolar or something?

[bbs-addict]

At 8/30/07 02:11 AM, Dash-Underscore-Dash wrote:

At 8/29/07 11:58 PM, mariomusicmaker1 wrote: LOL eb games wouldn't take my roll of toonies, i ripped the pack open and threw them on the counter then when i got my game ( 10 $ ps game) i promptly took it out of the package and snaped it in half and threw the bag at the guy,

Are you bipolar or something?

No, he lives in Canada, toonies are...what was it, one dollar coins or two dollar coins?

:ps, i think that first of all the game is only 10 dollars plus tax, second it's a toonie, it's not that hard to count, you should sue them, there is no clear reason why they should deny your roll of toonies.

[Kyora-Mishiso]

Yes. Stores can refuse service to anyone, especially if they're being dicks.

[Benovere]

At 8/29/07 08:59 PM, IOUPAIN wrote: me and my friend got 10000 pennies and went to taco bell ( lol ) and they wouldnt accpet it. legal tender. are they allowed to do that?

So YOU'RE that ass!!!! Do you really expect my employees to count every single one of those damn pennies while there are customers behind you waiting to be served? $10.81 isnt a lot, but to count 1081 pennies is. Get a job, and learn what it is like dealing with people like you...

[Brick-top]

A world where pennies can be spent like that is over. You'd be best to take it to the bank and get it changed.

[GaiusIuliusTaberna]

If pennies aren't an effective form of currency any more perhaps we should get rid of them like we did with 2 dollar bills and half dollar coins.
What if we changed the entire currency so that pennies would have the value of dollars and dollars 100 dollars ect. would that not make transactions more efficient. Maybe we should phase out coins and bills altogether and sue some kind of federal debit card system. Swiping card's as apposed to counting out amounts would be far faster and more efficient not to mention making lines a lot shorter.

Indecently that's pretty dam funny. How exactly did the guy react when you showed him the pennies? If it were me I'd say something like: are fucking messing with me? Get out of hear! Tell me he at least yelled.

[Kenshi]

At 8/29/07 09:06 PM, rockybolan wrote: Yes, they are allowed to do that. Stores have the right to refuse service to anyone.

Yep. I second that.

[IOUPAIN]

legal tender though. they HAVE to accept it.

[Proteas]

At 8/30/07 03:41 PM, GaiusIuliusTaberna wrote: perhaps we should get rid of them like we did with 2 dollar bills and half dollar coins.

I'd agree with you if it wasn't for the fact that the government still issues both of those pieces of currency, in addition to them still being considered legal tender.

What if we changed the entire currency so that pennies would have the value of dollars and dollars 100 dollars ect. would that not make transactions more efficient.

What if the government just stopped issuing pennies? I mean, it costs the government 1.7 cents for every penny they make thanks to the materials that go into them, not to mention labor or transportation costs that go into getting them to the bank and into circulation, and you haven't even taken into account yet the fact that somewhere between 40 to 60% of them are taken out circulation every year by collectors and people who just melt them down for the metals they contain.

It would be a lot more simple than trying to reverse inflation rates nation-wide to pre-turn of the 20th century levels...

At 8/30/07 09:16 PM, IOUPAIN wrote: legal tender though. they HAVE to accept it.

And unlike PAPER MONEY, it doesn't actually say that anywhere on the coin itself. So as far as I'm concerned, the clerk was in the right for not accepting unrolled coin that way. Besides, it sets a bad precedent for other customers.

Working in the service industry sucks, and I wouldn't mind being fired if I took about 4 dollars in pennies in a tubesock to idiots like you and the topic starter.

[KP94]

1. Where the hell did you win 1000 pennies
2. Yes, they have to except it, its leagal tender.
3.Roll all the ennies up ,lol, and bring to the bank for some bills.

[SmilezRoyale]

pennies are necessary for certain tax costs, as not everything is rounded to the nearest dollar. But there's no reason not to start minting it out of another metal.

[Proteas]

At 8/30/07 11:31 PM, KP94 wrote: 1. Where the hell did you win 1000 pennies

10,000 pennies (or $100). I went through my change jar last night after signing off, and discovered I had easily three or four dollars worth of pennies, but what surprised me was the sheer SIZE AND WEIGHT of that much coinage. All grouped together, it was bigger than my fist and weighed easily a half pound... which makes me have to call bullshit on this whole topic because 100 dollars worth of pennies would be damn near impossible to get inside the restaurant and then plop on the counter that way without the clerk behind the counter getting suspicious.

2. Yes, they have to except it, its leagal tender.

No, they don't have to accept it, businesses have the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason. Nobody brings 100 dollar's worth of pennies into Taco Bell with the express purpose of actually ordering 100 dollar's worth of food, and it's obvious that if it occured at all that the topic starter was just doing it to be an asshole and get a reaction out of the guy behind the counter.

3.Roll all the ennies up ,lol, and bring to the bank for some bills.

... you're an idiot, pure and simple.

[Elfer]

At 8/30/07 11:41 PM, SmilezRoyale wrote: pennies are necessary for certain tax costs,

No they aren't. You can just round again, in the same way that we already do. You've just arbitrarily claimed that the penny is needed because it's currently our lowest denomination coin.

Let's say I'm going to go to a movie with my friends, so I go down to the ol' dollar store and get three chocolate bars at 65 cents each. That comes to 1.95, then with PST and GST added, it's $2.223. Uh oh, the smallest coin we have is a penny, but I still have to pay .3 cents after my $2.22. I guess this bill is completely impossible to pay, huh?

Wrong, we just round the bill to the smallest denomination of coinage we have, the penny in this case, and call it $2.22 total.

So, I ask you, if we were to eliminate the penny and use the nickel as the smallest denomination, would the world end? No, we'd slightly modify the code in cash registers and move on with our lives.

[Hin-San]

Heh, they don't have to accept the pennies. I sure as hell wouldn't take them^_^.

[GaiusIuliusTaberna]

At 8/31/07 01:21 PM, Elfer wrote:

At 8/30/07 11:41 PM, SmilezRoyale wrote: pennies are necessary for certain tax costs,

No they aren't. You can just round again, in the same way that we already do. You've just arbitrarily claimed that the penny is needed because it's currently our lowest denomination coin.

Let's say I'm going to go to a movie with my friends, so I go down to the ol' dollar store and get three chocolate bars at 65 cents each. That comes to 1.95, then with PST and GST added, it's $2.223. Uh oh, the smallest coin we have is a penny, but I still have to pay .3 cents after my $2.22. I guess this bill is completely impossible to pay, huh?

Wrong, we just round the bill to the smallest denomination of coinage we have, the penny in this case, and call it $2.22 total.

So, I ask you, if we were to eliminate the penny and use the nickel as the smallest denomination, would the world end? No, we'd slightly modify the code in cash registers and move on with our lives.

Exactly.

I'd of spelled it out like that myself but I thought the implication was obvious.

I mean if we reset the value of currency so pennies were worth the same as dollars it wouldn't be a problem but I like the idea of using interestless credit rather than paper or coins its cheaper and easier to use, besides most privet or state services are doing that already like trains stores and gas stations.

Also you should issue one card for person and just electronically add value to it meaning you wouldn't have to issue hundreds of bills for every one person unless that person is an absent minded idiot with no concept of money in which case they should be fined.

Think of how much that would save the government and what's good for them inevitably is good for us. At least in a free country like America.

[bifgis]

No, he lives in Canada, toonies are...what was it, one dollar coins or two dollar coins?

Two dollar coins.

[Proteas]

At 8/31/07 08:21 PM, bifgis wrote: Two dollar coins.

... a two dollar coin?

*looks up on littletoncoin.com*

Well I'll be damned, Robin Williams was right.

"I know you're havign an economic crisis, but it's kind of hard to take you folks seriously when you say 'the loonie is down.' Oh I feel so sorry for you, *develops Daffy Duck lisp* What about the spiffie and the grabbie, what about that? *end lisp* You put animals on your money, 'Hey buddy, can you spare a beaver?'"

[hongkongexpress]

I had a friend who kept his money in a dirty sock, and this doorman at a punk show, said "No way am I touching that money!".

[IOUPAIN]

isnt it legal tender tho?