Rebublicans

[SilverboltClock]

All shity presidents were rebublicans Richard Nixon republican ROnald Regan Republican abraham lincoln republican and he was a racist dick weed!

[mikehrt]

At 7/6/03 12:07 AM, Silverbolt4 wrote: All shity presidents were rebublicans Richard Nixon republican ROnald Regan Republican abraham lincoln republican and he was a racist dick weed!

Jimmy Carter wasn't too great, he was a democrat. When he was president he managed to increase inflation and interest rates to near record highs.

[DrxFeelgood]

At 7/6/03 12:07 AM, Silverbolt4 wrote: All shity presidents were rebublicans Richard Nixon republican ROnald Regan Republican abraham lincoln republican and he was a racist dick weed!

Oh yeah? What did Regan do? Please tell me. And how can Abe be a "racist dick weed" when he freed slaves? I don't see that as being racist at all. You know who was bad? Slick Willy!

[mysecondstar]

At 7/6/03 04:28 AM, 70TA wrote: And how can Abe be a "racist dick weed" when he freed slaves? I don't see that as being racist at all.

like most people in the 19th century, Abraham Lincoln was a racist. then came real politik. Lincoln emancipated the slaves in the Confederate States of America yet did not do so in states that were part of the Union. the perfect political strategy. he got the best of both worlds. Condemned the South for seceeding and win the support of the abolisionists and keep those states in the Union with slaves to keep them.

but that aside, Teddy Roosevelt was an excellent president. probably the best. and he was a Republican while he was in office. unfamiliar with good ol' Teddy? i wouldn't be surprised. anyone making such a blunt, oversimplified statement as saying all Republicans were, and are,terrible presidents would need to either delve a bit more into their history books or should try to research a bit more deeply into the Bush-bashing.

if Bush were such a bad president, why does he get everything he wants? if anything it is the fault of the citizens of the United States for not electing leaders with spines.

[mysecondstar]

At 7/6/03 12:07 AM, Silverbolt4 wrote: All shity presidents were rebublicans Richard Nixon republican

Richard Nixon was a great president save Watergate. he opened up channels in China, ended the unendable war that was Vietnam, and was incredibly popular. his own paranoia was his undoing.

[Kenney333]

At 7/6/03 04:50 AM, mysecondstar wrote:

Richard Nixon ended the unendable war that was Vietnam

well he was pretty much forced to end the war, public opinion was turning against it and he had to pull some of the troops out to keep people happy, its not like he wanted to end it, or even had to work to end it, in actuality there was a democrat that was gaining a ton of popularity around that time (cant remember his name) and in order to win, Nixon had to get a ton of left votes so he made ending the war one of his policies so he could get into office.

At the head of 700 soldiers, Chivington rode into Sand Creek village on November 29, 1864. His guide later reported that nearly all 600 Indians there were women and children. 35 were braves, with fewer old men. Chivington knew the Indians had turned over their weapons, and most of the Cheyenne men were away hunting. He gave the order. The troops slaughtered 100-500 unarmed women and children, scalping most.

Chivington was never prosecuted. President Theodore Roosevelt later called the Sand Creek massacre "as righteous and beneficial a deed as ever took place on the frontier."

http://search.bangkokpost.co.t...0729/290701_perspective09.html

The Indian population of what is now the USA and Canada has been estimated at 7 million in 1492. In 1892, there were fewer than 500,000. Theodore Roosevelt stated flatly: "I don't go so far as to think that the only good Indians are dead Indians, but I believe nine out of ten are, and I shouldn't like to inquire too closely into the case of the tenth." Thus, Roosevelt said, the result "was as ultimately beneficial as it was inevitable."

At 7/6/03 04:47 AM, mysecondstar wrote:

if Bush were such a bad president, why does he get everything he wants? if anything it is the fault of the citizens of the United States for not electing leaders with spines.

Because Daddy Geroge and Grandpa Prescott payed for everything with their Nazi money.

http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/new_world_order/bush_nazis.html

[mysecondstar]

At 7/6/03 02:57 PM, Kenney333 wrote: well he was pretty much forced to end the war, public opinion was turning against it and he had to pull some of the troops out to keep people happy, its not like he wanted to end it, or even had to work to end it, in actuality there was a democrat that was gaining a ton of popularity around that time (cant remember his name) and in order to win, Nixon had to get a ton of left votes so he made ending the war one of his policies so he could get into office.

if ending Vietnam was such a Democratic agenda why did LBJ choose to stay so long? why did Kennedy decide to send in "military advisors" into Vietnam? at the time no one would have voted Democrat after LBJ. and any good politician knows how to rally the masses. and that's what the man did. and as i recall the election was almost a landslide.

[mysecondstar]

At 7/6/03 03:09 PM, _crossbreed_ wrote: Chivington was never prosecuted. President Theodore Roosevelt later called the Sand Creek massacre "as righteous and beneficial a deed as ever took place on the frontier."

it seems almost as if you're blaming Teddy for something that happened half of a century earlier. god forbid you should get away with that.

[mysecondstar]

At 7/6/03 03:14 PM, _crossbreed_ wrote: Because Daddy Geroge and Grandpa Prescott payed for everything with their Nazi money.

perhaps i shouldn't buy a Ford either. but what does that have to do with anything...

[Commander-K25]

Why are we bothering to argue a flaming rant?

At 7/6/03 06:55 PM, mysecondstar wrote:

it seems almost as if you're blaming Teddy for something that happened half of a century earlier. god forbid you should get away with that.

...No, I quoted the last paragraphs of an article from a website that merely point ouyt his under-rated racism towards Native Americans.

At 7/6/03 06:59 PM, mysecondstar wrote:

perhaps i shouldn't buy a Ford either. but what does that have to do with anything...

You asked why George has everything he wanted and I gave you a simple and direct answer, why are you talking about cars?

[mysecondstar]

At 7/6/03 07:53 PM, _crossbreed_ wrote: ...No, I quoted the last paragraphs of an article from a website that merely point ouyt his under-rated racism towards Native Americans.

if you have nothing relevant to say about his presidency don't say it.

[mysecondstar]

At 7/6/03 07:58 PM, _crossbreed_ wrote: You asked why George has everything he wanted and I gave you a simple and direct answer, why are you talking about cars?

first of all it was rhetorical. secondly i was making an example of the irrelevency of Nazi support to American politics as Ford supported the Nazis.

At 7/7/03 01:21 AM, mysecondstar wrote:

if you have nothing relevant to say about his presidency don't say it.

He's a racist, that's not relevant to his presidency?

At 7/7/03 01:24 AM, mysecondstar wrote:

first of all it was rhetorical. secondly i was making an example of the irrelevency of Nazi support to American politics as Ford supported the Nazis.

It's irrelevant that your land of freedom is run by a man whose political career was funded by the money of Nazis?

[mysecondstar]

At 7/7/03 02:11 AM, _crossbreed_ wrote: He's a racist, that's not relevant to his presidency?

Abe Lincoln was a racist. was that relevent to his presidency?

At 7/7/03 02:27 AM, mysecondstar wrote:

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Abe Lincoln was a racist. was that relevent to his presidency?

Only if he reinforced racist policies, as was the case with Teddy Roosevelt.

[mysecondstar]

At 7/7/03 03:32 AM, _crossbreed_ wrote: Only if he reinforced racist policies, as was the case with Teddy Roosevelt.

such as what?

At 7/7/03 10:01 PM, mysecondstar wrote:

such as what?

He supervised the war in the Philippines, in which the United States Army was fighting against the indigenous independence movement. He was Vice President when the war began, but became President in 1901 when McKinley was assassinated. There were massacres and atrocities perpetrated by the American army, and Roosevelt approved of all of them ­ anywhere from five hundred thousand to one million Filipinos were killed. In 1906, about six hundred Muslim Filipinos were massacred on one of the southern islands. They were virtually unarmed ­ the men just had spears. The American army moved in and killed all of them ­ men, women, and children. Afterwards, Roosevelt sent a telegram of congratulations to the commanding officer for this "military victory." Roosevelt was also responsible for creating the Republic of Panama. Colombia, which owned Panama, refused to sell it to the U.S. So Roosevelt just took it by force.

[mysecondstar]

At 7/7/03 10:30 PM, _crossbreed_ wrote: He supervised the war in the Philippines, in which the United States Army was fighting against the indigenous independence movement. He was Vice President when the war began, but became President in 1901 when McKinley was assassinated. There were massacres and atrocities perpetrated by the American army, and Roosevelt approved of all of them ­ anywhere from five hundred thousand to one million Filipinos were killed. In 1906, about six hundred Muslim Filipinos were massacred on one of the southern islands. They were virtually unarmed ­ the men just had spears. The American army moved in and killed all of them ­ men, women, and children. Afterwards, Roosevelt sent a telegram of congratulations to the commanding officer for this "military victory." Roosevelt was also responsible for creating the Republic of Panama. Colombia, which owned Panama, refused to sell it to the U.S. So Roosevelt just took it by force.

i fail to see how any of this has anything to do with his prejudice against Native Americans. each of those conflicts had American interests in mind. and he followed through. one of the keys to being a great politician is following through with your own promises and following through with the American agenda of greatness ie. the Philippines. For example JFK did almost nothing during his tenure yet he's considered great. why? he didn't back down to the Russians and promised to land on the moon, which we did.

Some soldiers killed some dirty Phllipinos and Roosevelt treated them as heros. What does that tell you about his views on other races?

[DrxFeelgood]

At 7/7/03 01:24 AM, mysecondstar wrote:

first of all it was rhetorical. secondly i was making an example of the irrelevency of Nazi support to American politics as Ford supported the Nazis.

Yup, old man Ford was a Nazi. You know those lame ass commercials with William Clay Ford Jr, or which ever one of those Nazis is, it has him bullshittin' about, "Oh, my dream car is to have a red Gaystang convertible with a throaty V-8" etc. And the other commercial about him lying about Ford's POS trucks, like: "They are the best". They should make one saying My grandpa was a Nazi, come celebrate his 100th birthday Nazi celebration. Oh, but they won't, because it's "not right" according to some. Oh, but it is ok to lie about "how good" Fords are. That really pisses me off. Ford sucks. Fuck Ford, pieces of shit.

Maybe you should create a "ford sucks" thread.

[Luxury-Yacht]

Even though I despise most Republicans, I must disagree. There were some pretty good Republican presidents, and not all Dems were so great, either.

[FUNKbrs]

Well, I'm a libertarian. How do you feel about libertarians, Bakshi? We wanna reduce welfare, legalize pot, and withdraw the military from abroad.

[David-Green]

republicans suck. they only have so much money on their side because they only suport the rich ones, who are the ones who have more money to give back to the republicans

At 7/8/03 05:43 PM, BaKsHi wrote: whichever party [democrat/republican] has the best deal for the election season. u know?

I strongly suggest voting for a third party because the lesser of two evils is still evil.