should we ban racism?

[AfroJustice]

i think we should in the public area ppl in private can say wut they want but in the public people should not be allowed to say hate speech and preech about killin hurting other races or claiming their race is superior

i kno some ppl dont like this b/c it is against freedom of speech they say but think about this what good comes form racism none, nothing good can come from racism so why have it

racism is against our rights anyway since racism leads to violence, hate and even murder i dont undrstand why ppl want to have racism in our communities.

of course the thought of racism stays in their head but what i want is to not allow racist things to be in the public that way we dont influence more ppl with racism and make it grow like in nazi germany there is no need for racism in todays world

[tehmaster690]

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Q.E.D.

[Memorize]

At 8/22/07 06:35 PM, tehmaster690 wrote: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Q.E.D.

Except if someone say... pushes a fight using racial slangs or other verbal language... no.

[DrewDeathbringer]

Even if we could, it wouldn't do any good. The police can't be everywhere all the time, and the courts are already backed up with real crime. Besides, its only a very small percent of the people that actually think that they are better than someone based on their race (now car, thats a different story).

[IllustriousPotentate]

How can you ban thoughts?

[slackerzac]

True racism leads to nothing but violence and sometimes mass genocide. But banning it would be impossible because there would be no way of reinforcing it because the goverment cant read your mind at this point in history.

[chaoticnuteral]

it is best if they can say the rasist stuff so you know who the assholes are so you can ignore them

[cellardoor6]

At 8/22/07 06:23 PM, AfroJustice wrote: i think we should in the public area ppl in private can say wut they want but in the public people should not be allowed to say hate speech and preech about killin hurting other races

We already have that for the most part. But it depends on how you interpret "hate speech". People can profess racist views and hatred of other races, but they can't use it as a catalyst to incite violence.

or claiming their race is superior

Why shouldn't that be allowed? Simply claiming one race is superior does not endanger other races. People should be able to have their racist views and express them all they want as long as they don't lead to violence.

i kno some ppl dont like this b/c it is against freedom of speech they say but think about this what good comes form racism none, nothing good can come from racism so why have it

That's very draconian. You believe that those racist views aren't good, based on YOUR views. So you think that since you have different views, you can prevent others from having theirs.

That's ridiculous.

I don't think anything good comes from modern liberals, so just because I think this, does it mean I have the right to prevent them from professing their views? No.

racism is against our rights anyway since racism leads to violence, hate and even murder i dont undrstand why ppl want to have racism in our communities.

Kind of an oxymoron don't you think?

What you're proposing is a complete and utter violation of free speech, it would be discrimination and bias against certain people just for their views... even though the very criticism you apply to these people is that they are racially biased.

You don't find that to be hypocritical?

[Kev-o]

Woody Allen once said speaking of the Klu Klux Klan:

"We may not agree with what they say, but we should defend to the death their right to say it. Then go down and meet them with baseball bats."

[MortifiedPenguins]

At 8/22/07 07:36 PM, KemCab wrote:

At 8/22/07 07:34 PM, IllustriousPotentate wrote:

Easy. You just blow the brains out of everyone with bad thoughts. Then everyone's happy!

But how do you know that there having bad thoughts.

I think we should just kill everyone with any thought.

[SmilezRoyale]

It's not a crime to say something that's rascist, but is it a crime to instigate / provoke violence?

if the answer is yes, we have a cunundrum.

[cellardoor6]

At 8/22/07 09:59 PM, SmilezRoyale wrote: It's not a crime to say something that's rascist, but is it a crime to instigate / provoke violence?

if the answer is yes, we have a cunundrum.

I don't think so. It's not a fine.

Someone can be racist,without using racist beliefs as a pretext to justify or encourage violence.

[idiot-buster]

hell no

[ImmoralLibertarian]

People are entitled to their own opinions, whether those opinions are wrong or not.

Inciting racial hatred should be illegal (as it is in most countries) but racial hatred itself? No.

[lolomfgisuck]

That would be the worst thing ever. If you allow the banning of one opinion in public then you'd have to ban all expresion of opinions in public areas.

Just because you think racisim is wrong doesn't mean everybody does. Censorship is never the answer. The answer is to just simply mind your own business. I shouldn't be forced into thinking, or believing a certain way just because other people are incapable of ignoring me. Can you imagine if this conversation was about relegion? Nobody would push to make being 'christian' a crime in public... so why should it be illegal to be 'racist'?

[DarkestNightmare]

in my opinion,racism isin't JUST calling someone the N-word,its where you think your race is god

[kloneone]

its freedom of speech. so if you want to knock the first amendment then good luck.

[Buckdich]

This is why we shouldn't have a Democracy but instead a Republic. Idiots like you ruin the system.

[Korriken]

At 8/23/07 03:14 PM, Buckdich wrote: This is why we shouldn't have a Democracy but instead a Republic. Idiots like you ruin the system.

america IS a republic..... a democratic republic... but still.

[superlink3479]

Ban racism? What a good idea! Lets ban some other bad things while we're at it! Alchohol? Drugs? Oh wait. That didnt work.

Banning racism would be banning fear. Goooood luck with that.

[tony4moroney]

At 8/22/07 06:35 PM, tehmaster690 wrote: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Q.E.D.

except the first amendment doesn't necessarily accept racism under peaceful assembly nor freedom of speech provided there are several laws against the provocation of violence.

there are also multiple amendments that condemn the state being involved in practicing racism - 13, 14, 18.

At 8/22/07 06:23 PM, AfroJustice wrote: i think we should in the public area ppl in private can say wut they want but in the public people should not be allowed to say hate speech and preech about killin hurting other races

What you're proposing is a complete and utter violation of free speech, it would be discrimination and bias against certain people just for their views... even though the very criticism you apply to these people is that they are racially biased.

Except there are laws against hate speech, provoking violence and inciting riots. riots of which isn't covered under freedom of assembly.

You don't find that to be hypocritical?

I'd say what he's suggested is somewhat hypocritical but not terribly adverse

[tony4moroney]

note: i don't have dissociative identity disorder; i wasn't talking to myself, one of those paragraphs was actually cellardoor's and i was replying to it.

[TNOAT]

Why would you ban fun?

[Cuppa-LettuceNog]

The issue with that is, as everyone say's, it goes against Freedom of speech. Who's to say that, instread of banning racist speech, congress ban's equal speech? Who's to say "White people are the same as black people" doesn't get made illegal?

That's the issue with basing laws on your own opinions; not everyone agrees with them.

Finally, Chris Rock with sue the living fuck out of the U.S, since Racism makes him millions.

[Buckdich]

At 8/23/07 03:18 PM, Korriken wrote:

At 8/23/07 03:14 PM, Buckdich wrote: This is why we shouldn't have a Democracy but instead a Republic. Idiots like you ruin the system.

america IS a republic..... a democratic republic... but still.

Today, America is considered a Democracy, but when the founding fathers first laid the foundations of our nation, they constructed our Constitution so our GOvernment would be a Constitutional Republic, which means there were checks against Mob Rule. Our Presidents weren't elected directly by the people, but instead by a few individuals that were picked by elected officials (today the electoral college is a sham and is driven by mob rule). Our Senators were first appointed by the states, and not the people. The only place where the average man could directly influence govt was through congress. Even then, measures were taken to filter through degenerates (like afro) by only allowing certain people to vote, that being the educated property owners.

Then the populists came in and demanded that retards be able to vote, and ever since then, the people were given the ability to take from the treasury and now stupid pork barrel projects flood our legislatures.

Our founding fathers never refered to America as a Democracy, but as a Constitutional Democracy.

So basically, a Constitutional Republic is rule by the Best with safe guards to protect our rights, while a democracy is just mob rule. A very big difference.

[Gunter45]

Actually, sure, I'll go with this.

So, how do we go about jailing everyone who was involved with the implementation of Affirmative Action? You know, seeing as how they didn't just say things, they've been active in promoting the fact that minorities are incapable of performing academically and not just saying it.

[Dr-Worm]

At 8/22/07 06:23 PM, AfroJustice wrote: i think we should in the public area ppl in private can say wut they want but in the public people should not be allowed to say hate speech and preech about killin hurting other races or claiming their race is superior

First it's racism, next it's political dissent, and before you know it it's 1984 all over again. No matter how bad it is, the right to say what you want must be upheld.

i kno some ppl dont like this b/c it is against freedom of speech they say but think about this what good comes form racism none, nothing good can come from racism so why have it

Merely not being allowed to publicly state your racism doesn't make racism disappear. How about we talk about race issues openly and educate people instead of just stifling anything that's possibly offensive.

racism is against our rights anyway since racism leads to violence, hate and even murder i dont undrstand why ppl want to have racism in our communities.

Nobody wants racism, but sacrificing Freedom of Speech is much worse. And since when is something that leads to violence illegal?

of course the thought of racism stays in their head but what i want is to not allow racist things to be in the public that way we dont influence more ppl with racism and make it grow like in nazi germany there is no need for racism in todays world

So basically, you don't really care whether or not racism exists, you just don't want to have to hear about it.

Bad idea that doesn't actually fix anything.

[InsaniMaster471]

At 8/22/07 06:23 PM, AfroJustice wrote: i think we should in the public area ppl in private can say wut they want but in the public people should not be allowed to say hate speech and preech about killin hurting other races or claiming their race is superior

i kno some ppl dont like this b/c it is against freedom of speech they say but think about this what good comes form racism none, nothing good can come from racism so why have it

racism is against our rights anyway since racism leads to violence, hate and even murder i dont undrstand why ppl want to have racism in our communities.

of course the thought of racism stays in their head but what i want is to not allow racist things to be in the public that way we dont influence more ppl with racism and make it grow like in nazi germany there is no need for racism in todays world

I think this entire topic idea was stupid. You'll never be able to eliminate racism entirely, so why give the racists a little "room" where they can be the sick people they are. Racism is not the same as smoking. There was never a need for racism. It sorta developed because a bunch of ppl who are long dead had some bad ideas that they passed on to their children. Racism is not against our rights. Being attacked verbally or physically by a racist is against our rights. Omg... theres too much wrong with this topic I'm not even gonna bother. Read up on your history books, bro, then talk. *walks away* (under breath) jesus fricking christ... some people are such idiots...