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Anti-Americana 2003-07-03 11:27:15 Reply

Which president do you think caused the increase of Anti-Americanism?

Did it start earlier, like in vietnam or korea, or has it been escalating severely during the Bush Regime?

Or has it been increasing due to the stupidity of the american people?

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Response to Anti-Americana 2003-07-03 13:09:45 Reply

All of the above, also add all of the american ppropaganda and ploting in order to incrase it's economy.

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Response to Anti-Americana 2003-07-03 18:17:02 Reply

Ever since the USA was started. That's not really that surprising, since the French have had their reputation as wine drinking arrogant dicks ever since the beginning of time.

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Response to Anti-Americana 2003-07-03 18:25:15 Reply

It started in the Cold War when the USSR launched its massive Anti-American propaganda campaign and organized all the "Yankee Go Home" rallies.

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Response to Anti-Americana 2003-07-03 21:18:31 Reply

It all probably really started in a big way during the Vietnam war. When America started to really get involved in conflicts and affairs the were not of it’s concern. That tends to piss people off and make us look like a controlling police state.

I think that blaming the American people is unfair. The attitudes of a lot of Americans are a bi-product of the propaganda aimed at us by our government. At least for or five times a week I hear the phrase “The greatest nation on earth” or some variable. It’s bound to have an effect on a populous.

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Response to Anti-Americana 2003-07-03 21:21:26 Reply

Probably when Americans took over the land of natives. That has to be the old-school wave of anti-Americanism.

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Response to Anti-Americana 2003-07-03 22:16:30 Reply

I believe the anti-americanism begun with the creation of Israel. Then it spread with the cold war in Asia, then in Africa and finally in South America with the economy problems.

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Response to Anti-Americana 2003-07-04 03:54:10 Reply

Anti Americana has been around as long as theres been Americana, but theres been big jumps in anti popularity

WWII
Cold war
Vietnam war
Gulf war

pretty much any war America has been involved in, alot of besieged Europe was angry with America sitting back and watching the show for so long before helping

Certain Presidents just existing didnt help it

Nixon
Bush Senior
Bush Junior

also the old Clinton head escapade

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Response to Anti-Americana 2003-07-04 04:04:55 Reply

At 7/3/03 10:16 PM, shazzam wrote: I believe the anti-americanism begun with the creation of Israel.

The creation of Israel? What? America didn't even exsist in the time of Israel's creation.

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Response to Anti-Americana 2003-07-04 04:08:25 Reply

Anti-Americanism definately started with the British in the war of independance, of course. Then, Canadians with the war of 1812, and every country involved in a war against the U.S. there after. With media and the expanding global village however, in our modern times, this wonderful and ignorant gift has spread worldwide!

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Response to Anti-Americana 2003-07-04 19:31:34 Reply

At 7/3/03 06:17 PM, UNpossible wrote: Ever since the USA was started.

Sounds good so far..

That's not really that surprising, since the French have had their reputation as wine drinking arrogant dicks ever since the beginning of time.

Wha? If this was associated with the last statement, then you should have known that the French financed quite a bit of the American Revolution.

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Response to Anti-Americana 2003-07-04 19:57:05 Reply

Anti-Americanism has existed as long as America has.

Before the middle eastern crisis of today, there was Nam- before Nam there was the Russians witht he cold war, Before the cold war there was the Axis with the World Wars, before that there was the confeds, and before that there was the British.

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Response to Anti-Americana 2003-07-04 20:01:14 Reply

At 7/4/03 04:04 AM, MrStuff wrote:
The creation of Israel? What? America didn't even exsist in the time of Israel's creation.

*ignorance alarm goes off*

uhhh...Israel was created at the end of WWII by the British....

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Response to Anti-Americana 2003-07-05 10:32:41 Reply

Why are you discounting the Mexicans? After all, half your country was their land by right, and that's the parts that weren't Native American beforehand.

Anyway, probably it started before the Pilgrims got on The Mayflower, as they weren't particularly welcome in their home country to begin with.

And don't blame Nixon - LBJ is the guy that dragged you into the Vietnam debacle, yet is conveniently forgotten every time, since Nixon is always presented as The Bad Guy. Mostly because he's dead, Johnson isn't. I think. Is he?


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Response to Anti-Americana 2003-07-05 10:34:01 Reply

At 7/5/03 10:32 AM, D2KVirus wrote:
And don't blame Nixon - LBJ is the guy that dragged you into the Vietnam debacle, yet is conveniently forgotten every time, since Nixon is always presented as The Bad Guy. Mostly because he's dead, Johnson isn't. I think. Is he?

Oh, he is. Plan 'B'...


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Response to Anti-Americana 2003-07-05 18:44:09 Reply

At 7/3/03 11:27 AM, Ravens_Grin wrote: Which president do you think caused the increase of Anti-Americanism?
Did it start earlier, like in vietnam or korea, or has it been escalating severely during the Bush Regime?

Or has it been increasing due to the stupidity of the american people?

I think It has just increased slowly durning Vietnam, Korea and now Iraq and they're just slowly pissing more and more people off.

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Response to Anti-Americana 2003-07-05 19:41:07 Reply

I think what really pissed the rest of the world off was that Clinton basically ignored the world and let it fall to shit, then Bush came in and is trying to micromanage the rest of the world.

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Response to Anti-Americana 2003-07-05 19:49:12 Reply

Well, some of you have said that it beginned with the same creation of U.S. (note: an important step to stop anti-"america"-nism, is simply to stop calling yourselves america. Remember that. Refer yourselves as the ppl from "the states" or from "usa". Trust me, i know what i say. Anti-USAism is pretty common here.)
If you ask me, i think this started, on little terms, with the WWII, cause so far as i know, at least on my country that was the starting point. Then it came Korea (not as much as Nam did it tho), then the cooperation between the CIA and the chilean army to do the militar stike on the '73, then the anti-communism campaigns, and then Chuck Norris. Oh, and i don't think that Clinton contributed to this anti-USAism, in fact, many ppl here looked his... um... "case" as giving "humanity" to the government of your country.
Then again, it's just how i look it in my country, and i guess it increases on every zone of the globe at different terms. For example, it grows further now on the Middle East, than in Africa. It depends on the actuality of these conflicts around the world and how USA reacts against them.