Newgrounds.com — Everything, By Everyone.

At 8/27/07 05:01 PM, Pheidippides wrote: While it is true the government holds the country together, patriotism is love of the country itself. Too many n00bs just don't know the definition of patriotism, so really, it's just another case of n00bs acting like n00bs.

But it seems the N00bishness has spread. I mean you notice that this is coming from Europeans? And Euros haven't ben known to give a shit about where they come from since WW2.

At 8/27/07 09:08 PM, animehater wrote:

At 8/27/07 05:01 PM, Pheidippides wrote:

But it seems the N00bishness has spread. I mean you notice that this is coming from Europeans? And Euros haven't ben known to give a shit about where they come from since WW2.

Actually, if anything Nationalism or the thought of it is more of European thought then any.

Patriotism was more of an American thought. I mean, think what promted our war agains the UK; Personell liberty, self rule and a relative common culture.

And look what it took for us to form a government for us to accept somewhat and follow.

Europeans on the other hand, throughout thier history, frequently engaged in various cival wars based more collectively on an idea of a same union or statehood for a group, ethnicity or what have you.

At 8/27/07 10:41 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote: Actually, if anything Nationalism or the thought of it is more of European thought then any.

As I meant patriotism.

Europeans on the other hand, throughout thier history, frequently engaged in various civil wars based more collectively on an idea of a same union or statehood for a group, ethnicity or what have you.

Another good point on the origin of the bad blood. More on ethnicity then anything else.

I'm not patriotic, I think that countries mean nothing compared to ethnicity, I do drink, I don't care abouth where people are from but I dislike some countries, in a way, I'm a Socialist, Idon't respect religion, the human race is in no way superior, we where just lucky to have thumbs, other creatures have evolved to other forms which are more interesting and simply better. I guess I'm not going to join. :p

At 8/28/07 02:35 PM, animehater wrote:

At 8/27/07 10:41 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote:

Another good point on the origin of the bad blood. More on ethnicity then anything else.

No, because Ethnicity can in itself mean nothing at all.

Many of the problems in Bosnia, Serbia and all those other Eastern Europeans countries can occur within themselves and even opt out to slaugthers and cleansings, when thier ethnicity and genetics are often pretty similar.

Much like what is happenign in current Iraq.

All that I have to say on the issue is that the Middle East is fasy becoming the new Europe.***

***= reference to the early to mid nineteen hundreds

At 8/28/07 06:53 PM, davaca wrote: I guess I'm not going to join. :p

I guess you're not. Good bye.

At 8/28/07 08:09 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote: No, because Ethnicity can in itself mean nothing at all.
Many of the problems in Bosnia, Serbia and all those other Eastern Europeans countries can occur within themselves and even opt out to slaugthers and cleansings, when thier ethnicity and genetics are often pretty similar.
Much like what is happenign in current Iraq.

Yes but I would mean any sort of multiple perceived identities within a nation leading to civil war, genocide and so on could be considered an ethnicity. And how did The former Yugoslavia go to hell in the way you were talking about? I would really be interested to see how that country broke up.

At 8/28/07 08:21 PM, Rumbumfucknut wrote: All that I have to say on the issue is that the Middle East is fasy becoming the new Europe.***
***= reference to the early to mid nineteen hundreds

I would disagree I mean back then Europe was about expanding empires and protecting colonial interests while what we see in the mid east seems to be the increase in radical Islam, people pissed at israel, and so on. At least that's what I would think.

Wait. Would the symbol look better in a purple background (orange outlines so you can actually see it) or an orange one?

At 8/23/07 11:46 PM, Grammer wrote: Who said you can't be patriotic and disagree with the government.
I think Roe v Wade should be overturned. Do I hate America?

I'll clarify: The Bush administration with regard to Iraq. (Don't know why I didn't say this...) I took by him saying "non defeatist" that we weren't allowed to disagree with the war in Iraq. Not to mention that some republicans think that anyone who disagrees with the government is patriotic.

I guess you're really good at extrapolating what he's said to make it seem like something it's not. He never you can't express religion.

o·vert·ly
-adverb
openly; publicly
done or shown publicly or in an obvious way; not secret

Because injecting poison into your body isn't exactly moral?

It's not moral to you and you do not speak for everyone.

No, it doesn't include Muslims >:(

I REALLY hope you're joking.

:Scientology is recognized as a religion,
:Since when

Scientology is legally recognized as a religion in the USA, where have you been? Besides, that's not the point. The term "religion" is based on opinion. Technically, Christianity fits under the definition of "cult."

12. No god forsaken bush basher please

So no criticizing the government, huh?

He never said that, you fucking moron.

Apparently, he did.

Is it wrong to think that the killing of animals is inhumane?

Yes

Again, I hope you're joking.

At 8/31/07 10:49 AM, MrKickyourbutt wrote: Apparently, he did.

No, I just didn't want twelve year olds with absolutely no understanding of the world around them who's opinions are are told to them by others.

I'll clarify: The Bush administration with regard to Iraq. (Don't know why I didn't say this...) I took by him saying "non defeatist" that we weren't allowed to disagree with the war in Iraq.

Defeatism =/= Criticism

Not to mention that some republicans think that anyone who disagrees with the government is patriotic.

Judging the majority of liberals who posted in this thread just to troll, I'd say more liberals actually believe that than repubs.

At 8/31/07 04:50 PM, Pheidippides wrote: Defeatism =/= Criticism

I told you that was gonna be a problem.

Um... how's this for a symbol?

At 9/1/07 09:17 PM, Pheidippides wrote: Um... how's this for a symbol?

That's fucking beautiful! All we need is for that backround to be orange to keep with the colors.

At 9/1/07 09:27 PM, animehater wrote:

At 9/1/07 09:17 PM, Pheidippides wrote: Um... how's this for a symbol?

That's fucking beautiful! All we need is for that backround to be orange to keep with the colors.

Done. Anything else?

Also, I'm amazed at how easy paint.NET is compared to Photoshop Elements.

At 9/1/07 09:37 PM, Pheidippides wrote: Done. Anything else?

That'll be fine for now. Thank you. Now for stage two, awareness.

Yeah. see theres more to social democracy than just of what most people would suspect it of. I'm all for it where do i sign up!!

At 9/1/07 09:51 PM, animehater wrote: That'll be fine for now. Thank you. Now for stage two, awareness.

Wait... you mean us being aware of other stuff, or other people being aware of us?

NATIONALISM SUCKS!

At 9/2/07 11:43 AM, Kiddmeizter wrote: NATIONALISM SUCKS!

ORLY?

At 9/2/07 11:20 AM, Pheidippides wrote: Wait... you mean us being aware of other stuff, or other people being aware of us?

No, nevermind I think we might be a bit ahead of ourselves. Before that i think we should try to put the spotlight on republicanism. I think I forgot to say that we should strive for a world of repulblics. I never was a fan of a person being a head of state and national symbol, and being pampered from birth to death as very Democratic.

I never was a fan of a person being a head of state and national symbol, and being pampered from birth to death as very Democratic.

Yeah, leaders are there to serve the people, not the other way around. Government leaders should should only serve for very short periods of time, and not given very much money. One of the things I hate about the US government is that people can give themselves raises (which is the reason 90% of my state is so fucking pissed at our retarded governor).

At 9/2/07 05:12 PM, Pheidippides wrote: Yeah, leaders are there to serve the people, not the other way around. Government leaders should should only serve for very short periods of time, and not given very much money. One of the things I hate about the US government is that people can give themselves raises (which is the reason 90% of my state is so fucking pissed at our retarded governor).

I see. Well like i was saying. Our new platform is the promotion of a world of republics.

I see. Well like i was saying. Our new platform is the promotion of a world of republics.

Yeah, that'd be nice to have a world of republics, but, ya know, Kim Jong Il, Ahmadurkadurkajad, and all of their fuck-buddies have different plans. Still, republics kick major amounts of ass.

At 9/2/07 05:44 PM, Pheidippides wrote: Yeah, that'd be nice to have a world of republics, but, ya know, Kim Jong Il, Ahmadurkadurkajad, and all of their fuck-buddies have different plans. Still, republics kick major amounts of ass.

Yes, we should promte republicanism as much as we do democracy.

At 9/2/07 06:56 PM, animehater wrote:

At 9/2/07 05:44 PM, Pheidippides wrote:

Yes, we should promte republicanism as much as we do democracy.

Why not just go all out and promote, Democratic Republics.

Or Constitutional Democratic Republics.

I mean, early Rome was a republic and there wasn't much freedom available.

At 9/2/07 08:21 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote: I mean, early Rome was a republic and there wasn't much freedom available.

Yea sure. But I really meant targeting current Democracies such as the DK And make them Republics but I see hwere you're getting at.

I gey the feeling that when it comes to wiping race off the face the earth ot will be the victims of the damned thing that will give us the most problems.

At 9/4/07 09:00 PM, animehater wrote: I gey the feeling that when it comes to wiping race off the face the earth ot will be the victims of the damned thing that will give us the most problems.

Uhm. English...please.

At 9/4/07 09:21 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote: Uhm. English...please.

Sorry, not used to a laptop. What I'm saying is if we try to get rid of race we might get minorities as enemies ironically. Ya know because we would eventually have to target the racial organisations that try to represent them. Which leads to another thing, why does the NAACP still have the CP?