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At 1/10/08 07:42 PM, JugoDeMonstruo wrote: Sweet. Also, what's CS3? Is that the newest flash program available or something?

Adobe Creative Suite 3, is basically flash, photoshop, and every little thing you need for NG

Well, with the original idea I imagined Soviet helicopters attacking a previously peacefull Newgrounds City. The Reds round up the survivors, line them up on a wall, and a Che Guevara looking mofo is about to do the executing until he is distracted by a Heli being shot down which crashes on top of him and HumNat rebels swarm the place ambushing the Commies blowing everything up, saving the survivors, and putting up the good old Sunlight Hand of Balance (the symbol) to wave over the remains of a tank. I was thinking all in orange tint (which makes me think that our colors should be icy blue and orange to represent NG's seasonal colors) and just awesome. Now for what i think we should do, make a series of a guy explaining the HumNat movement. It's a whole lot simpler.

At 1/10/08 08:07 PM, animehater wrote: <Insert post here>

Seems a little advert, than Propaganda...its not rubbish, but it will work. Although I would prefer, having it show
A white screen at first, then the declared leader of our group...Which I would say Da...Animehater would be it.

Now, his voice would calmly explain the views, while trying to logically denounce other methods.
Whilst he does this, the background, or using visual aids.

Or, we make a music video using Phase 1: Fortification by 30 Seconds to Mars (Pre-Emo), at which we use the lyrics to undermine the other ideas. Making us out to be the 'good guys' in this.

<Enter Lyrics> (sorry for sudden length)
We will fight
Fortify
We wont crash into oblivion
We will climb
Undeny
We will draw our own conclusions
From this time

I need some kind of release
I need some kind of release
We will race
Through this fate
In the dawn of this dimension
There's a face
Sublimate
We will take up
Break up
These forgotten names

I need some kind of release
I need some kind of release
I need some kind of release
I need some kind of release

All of your life trying to be
You are the one you can not see
All of your life trying to be
You are the one you can not see

I need some kind of release
I need some kind of release

We will fight
Fortify
We wont crash into oblivion
We will climb
Undeny
We will draw our own conclusions
From this time

All of your life trying to be
You are the one you can not see
All of your life trying to be
You are the one you can not see

He swallowed his heroes
They fell out of context
He opened his windows
To decadent interest
He polished his image
Like that of a human
He battled the planets and won

He won
He won
He won
He won

All of your life trying to be
You are the one you can not see
All of your life trying to be
You are the one you can not see

All of my life trying to be
I am the one you can not see
All of my life trying to be

Hmm... a calm video explaining our group, rather than kickass fight scenes and helicopter crashes? Doesn't sound that exciting, but I guess it won't take that long. We will get back to the original idea, right? Also, something with that song would be pretty cool, too.

At 1/11/08 08:13 AM, K-RadPie wrote: We will get back to the original idea, right?

I plan to do it all at some point.

First thing about Human Nationalism from that doctrine I was writing (I sure do wish i could write it now...

1. Capitalist- We believe that every man "Is entitled to the sweat of his brow" and that with enough hard work any man can go from rags to riches. We believe that everyone should be able to pursue happiness while at the same time not taking away the happiness others have earned themselves.

Ill join.

At 1/13/08 04:27 PM, sirtom93 wrote: Ill join.

All right then. Just stay active.

Man, I was gonna do it too thanks to a fortune cookie telling me so but I wasn't able too. Weather says tomorrow they'll be a lot of snow so maybe I'll have some time then.

At 1/13/08 06:38 PM, animehater wrote: Weather says tomorrow they'll be a lot of snow so maybe I'll have some time then.

You lucky bastard, with your... snow.

At 1/13/08 10:19 PM, K-RadPie wrote: You lucky bastard, with your... snow.

Turns out it really wasn't that much though. But there might be later in the week.

PART 1

I just thought it would be best to better define Human Nationalism through this post.

Human Nationalism is the creation of a Capitalist, Moralistic, and Democratic Republic with a respect for order, a strong sense of Patriotism, an understanding that the Human Race reigns supreme, and the will to spread globally. In fact that's where we get the name. I try to make every platform fit in with the greatness of mankind and unlike the lower beasts and the sphere we live on, possess logic and reason.

1. Capitalist- We believe that every man "Is entitled to the sweat of his brow" and that with enough hard work any man can go from rags to riches. We believe that everyone should be able to pursue happiness while at the same time not taking away the happiness others have earned themselves.

2. Moralistic- Although as stated before that is quite vague, we use this term since this part would best fit in with this concept. As Human Nationalists we believe that the mind is the most important part of the glorious Human Race because it is that that has allowed us to be able to form thoughts, ideas, and plans that have allowed us to take those very things into action.

Because of this we believe that we must try to separate ourselves from the lesser animals and prevent temptation that will only satisfy the flesh's desires rather than the mind's needs. This is why we stand against the modern world's openness to narcissistic qualities like the obsession with sex and (mostly) illegal substances that alter the mind and leave it in a vulnerable state and prevent it from being in its best condition. We believe that only with the full mastery of these temptations can we abandon or at the very least control or weaken the urge to return to our primitive past.

The concept of moralistic also allows us to give our thanks and respect for the major religions of the world which over the course of their existence created laws that men follow to this day. That mixed with the many stories they have created have allowed entire cultures to be formed and civilizations to rise and fall. Along with that there is also the fact that freedom of faith is a necessity amongst liberties.

As we respect religion, we also focus on trying to be a unifying force and as a movement focused on all inclusiveness and spreading globally and thus try not to give preference to any specific religion. Nevertheless, even with this the movement will protect the symbols and cultural heritage that a religion may have created within an area.

PART 2

3. Democratic Republic- as Human Nationalists we believe that the best way for a government to represent the people is if all bodies of government were chosen by the people. We believe that free choice of one's leaders truly is the best form of government and that it is for all nations and peoples so that tyranny may not hold sway and the expression of ideas can better take shape.
We also believe that no living being has the right to act as an entire nation's symbol solely because of birth and bloodline. We believe the entire concept of monarchy goes against the very concept of democracy regardless of the power help by it. May it be known that if a being is to achieve greatness to an entire nation it must be earned through the proof of worth and not handed down through generations as if a country was a fortune.

4. Order- Although the Human Nationalist movement believes in freedom and democracy we also know that it must also be balanced with Law and order. We must find a way to prevent the spread of disorder. In this cause as with every cause we believe that there must be a balance between order and democracy, so we may avoid both tyranny and anarchy. We know that too much emphasis on one and not for the other will inevitably lead to its extremes. We know not to make the mistakes so many others have made.

5. Patriotism- the Human Nationalist movement understands that it is wrong to hate one's own country and that it is wrong to question the concept of patriotism. Some are foolish enough to believe that it leaves the people susceptible to tyranny or use the natural mistrust of government to an extreme and use it as an excuse. We know that government's sole purpose is to maintain order and is completely different from country, people, history, culture, and of course the land that the nation sits upon itself. Truly we see that Patriotism in necessary for national unity. We understand that the people must stop looking at themselves another ethnicity, religion, or sexual orientation, and focus on the fact that a land is the home to its entire people and that its citizens are all brothers and sisters, so that they may gain a common identity. With common identity there is a common unity. That is the purpose of Patriotism. One state = One people.

6. Humanity- Finally, as our name implies, the Human Nationalist movement believes that the Human Race reigns supreme as the master race of earth and beyond. There are fools who think of their species as a parasite and favor the earth, inferior beasts, and so forth. Yet what they fail to realize is that we have become the master race of the Earth as we have developed far beyond the inferior beasts we share this sphere on due to us being the only ones to develop logic and reason which has allowed us to create Language, mathematics, and entire civilizations. We know that our species' name should be thought of not imperfection but as supreme above all other mortal beings either real or fantasized. We know that while one man may be imperfect, all Mankind certainly is not.

This is Human Nationalism.

SUFOLLA DETINU!

Finally done, that wasn't a very long one at all was it? Maybe I should extend it. Also guys, what do you think of the death penalty?

I gotta admit, that doctrine is pretty badass.

Also guys, what do you think of the death penalty?

To tell you the truth, I'm divided on this issue.

To ask for the Death Penalty is asking to make an example of someone who does not follow the rules. I would use it, but only if the crime fits it. To kill for something small is to scare the people. When you run the government, you run it in a way that allows them to feel comfortable with it the government. Let them feel at ease, let them control it, in the legal manner of which the government allows them.

I'm personally for it in the most extreme of cases of course. But what I failed to mention in that doctrine is the belief in Federalism. People should govern themselves. Let the States,provinces, etc. choose their own way of running themselves. Let Texas execute and let NJ choose not to.

"Alright."

submission: RepublicaSocialistaMundia
date: January 10, 2008
Hardly the awesome propaganda film I was expecting. Nevertheless, me and the boys and the HumNat crew are planning an anticommunist response. Although because I just mentioned it I may have jinched it. Only time will tell where that will go.
January 11, 2008
Author's Response:
I´m looking forward towards an anticommunist response by you. I wonder what it will be like.

Great, now the game is on to actually create that flash. Krad, where are you man?

At 1/19/08 08:01 PM, animehater wrote: Great, now the game is on to actually create that flash. Krad, where are you man?

Right here. But anyways, I need a script in order to actually make anything, so I guess we should start working on it.

At 1/20/08 08:29 AM, K-RadPie wrote: Right here. But anyways, I need a script in order to actually make anything, so I guess we should start working on it.

Alrighty then. Part of the reason I made that doctrine post was to show a sort of "episode list" for the flashes.

At 1/20/08 08:29 AM, K-RadPie wrote:

At 1/19/08 08:01 PM, animehater wrote: Great, now the game is on to actually create that flash. Krad, where are you man?

Right here. But anyways, I need a script in order to actually make anything, so I guess we should start working on it.

I just got Flash (CS3 Master Suite) Perhaps I can help.

At 1/22/08 04:53 PM, Tranquil-Chaos01 wrote: I just got Flash (CS3 Master Suite) Perhaps I can help.

Good to see some working together here.

The Pope it talking about the media.

I would agree it needs to be more ethical But I disagree with the Pope or differ with his thoughts about what part of it.

Kosovo independence in days

How do you think Serbia and Russia will react?

At 1/25/08 03:51 PM, animehater wrote: The Pope it talking about the media.

I can agree with some of that, but if the media were more ethical, it wouldn't be very fun or exciting, now would it?

Kosovo independence in days

How do you think Serbia and Russia will react?

I'm gonna take a wild stab at it and say armed conflict.

At 1/26/08 09:41 PM, K-RadPie wrote: I can agree with some of that, but if the media were more ethical, it wouldn't be very fun or exciting, now would it?

It's getting to the point where where the media these days is just not exiting anymore.

I'm gonna take a wild stab at it and say armed conflict.

That'd be interesting.

Kosovo not independent yet. I know they were told to go slow on that but damn this is taking forever.

I thought so.

At 1/31/08 03:18 PM, animehater wrote: I thought so.

Also (as I forgot to mention earlier) anyone noticing the whole Anon VS. Scientology war and the propaganda images involved? Anon may just modify old ones but this still gives me an idea to make our own advertisement images.

At 1/31/08 04:19 PM, animehater wrote: Also (as I forgot to mention earlier) anyone noticing the whole Anon VS. Scientology war and the propaganda images involved? Anon may just modify old ones but this still gives me an idea to make our own advertisement images.

Great idea, actually. But I have yet to see any of the Anon vs Scientology war other then the first video. Links would be very much appreciated.

At 2/1/08 08:01 AM, K-RadPie wrote: Great idea, actually. But I have yet to see any of the Anon vs Scientology war other then the first video. Links would be very much appreciated.

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