Better yet, How was God created?

[Special-Unit-FOXHND]

Who created God?
by all means..
if God was born from people's prayer and he made everything to begin with
who made him?

[Slizor]

I just said that!

[Pantomime-Horse]

At 6/16/01 09:54 PM, Special_Unit_FOXHND wrote: Who created God?
by all means..
if God was born from people's prayer and he made everything to begin with
who made him?

The Jew/Christian God & all other gods were created in the minds of the people to explane things they didn't know how explain, for people to control one another, so people didn't have to take responsibillity for there lives.
The first priests just saw things they didn't like so they just claimed god said it was evil & god would be vengful & so the mere concept of god was only to make it's inventors powerful.

[Morextremist]

At 6/16/01 09:54 PM, Special_Unit_FOXHND wrote: Who created God?
by all means..
if God was born from people's prayer and he made everything to begin with
who made him?

Simple, he was created from the Big Bang.

[Trunks-rage]

Well, I like some of the things other people said, cause they are what you expect to hear from the public. Except that they are worst kind of opinions, ones that are founded on hypothesis. All answers must be derived from a constant, not a complete speculation. So I will give you my opinion, which took a long time to draw out, and will only be finished when i can no longer change it:

God is not a divine being. He is not soemthing that rules over you, and controls destiny. That is simpley impossible, not by application but by logical evaluation. So to find where God comes from, we first must say he exists. If we say he does not exist, then we can't solve this problem. If he exists, then what is the motive of this existence? Well my guess is the that he is to function as our strength, at least that is what every God seems to provide in every world religion. So would God come before man? That would not make sense, because we need him, he does not need us. So either man came before God, or it was a mutual birth. I think that he must have come shortly after the birth of man. Since we didn't need strength at the actual conception, but did shortly after. God must have been born in the first fish to function beyond that of mere instinct. So God must be a part of all living things. Therefore there cannot be only one. So we are left with the fact that God came after life, and is not a single spirit, or force. Now we need to know if he is the same God for every living category, or every living thing. Well it would seem strange that Gods would need to see over every certain type of creature. These divisions are not certain, and change with time due to evolution. So that means that there must be a God for every living thing. In fact, God is a part of us. We are God. To call on God, is to call on the inner spirit, our strength that a microscope won't reveal. The Force of existence, is God. We created God, because we need this force to survive.

Well thats all I have to say. I am sure the athiests will bash me. The christians will raise their noses in dismisal. However I don't seek your approval; I only wish to share knowledge which I have formed. Maybe if you evaluate this yourself, you will come to the same conclusion. If not, then at least you understand my opinion.
Thankyou for reading.

[Special-Unit-FOXHND]

At 6/17/01 07:48 PM, Trunks_rage wrote:

God is not a divine being. He is not soemthing that rules over you, and controls destiny. That is simpley impossible, not by application but by logical evaluation. So to find where God comes from, we first must say he exists. If we say he does not exist, then we can't solve this problem. If he exists, then what is the motive of this existence? Well my guess is the that he is to function as our strength, at least that is what every God seems to provide in every world religion. So would God come before man? That would not make sense, because we need him, he does not need us. So either man came before God, or it was a mutual birth. I think that he must have come shortly after the birth of man. Since we didn't need strength at the actual conception, but did shortly after. God must have been born in the first fish to function beyond that of mere instinct. So God must be a part of all living things. Therefore there cannot be only one. So we are left with the fact that God came after life, and is not a single spirit, or force. Now we need to know if he is the same God for every living category, or every living thing. Well it would seem strange that Gods would need to see over every certain type of creature. These divisions are not certain, and change with time due to evolution. So that means that there must be a God for every living thing. In fact, God is a part of us. We are God. To call on God, is to call on the inner spirit, our strength that a microscope won't reveal. The Force of existence, is God. We created God, because we need this force to survive.

That truly explains most things as it was a very good opinion and thought. Thank you for your time pondering about such things.

[Slizor]

From what you have just said, I don't like you

Well, I like some of the things other people said, cause they are what you expect to hear from the public.

Condescending

Except that they are worst kind of opinions, ones that are founded on hypothesis.

Which is exactly what you do!

All answers must be derived from a constant, not a complete speculation.

WHere is the constant exactly?

Well my guess is the that he is to function as our strength

speculation

So would God come before man? That would not make sense, because we need him, he does not need us.

I don't need him, it would seem, from looking at all the religions, that he has to be praised and worshipped by us.

The rest of your opinon is just a walk down the road of sophistry.

[Trunks-rage]

Well thats ok, people have different opinions and I except that. However, I don't feel that I was condescending. That first quote you picked out was a direct reference to the comment about God being created to deal with peoples problems, and not being real. I was not talking down to others, I was just trying to point out how much I hate that opinion. I am a former Athiest, and I have strong reasons for leaving such a position. I do not look down on others who don't believe in God. I feel they have no God. He is only there if you need him. That was the entire point of my writing, if you read it carefully. I did not found things on hypothesis. I started with the basic rules of our universe, then built up to an explanation of God. In fact I actually believe athiests are right. Christians did create God, because they needed him, if you don't need him, you don't have one. Heaven and Hell are a different issue, and I would need to write a short book to explain my opinion on it. I was not trying to be deceptive in any of my writing. You don't need to use big words to sound smarter then me pal.

[Slizor]

I did not found things on hypothesis. I started with the basic rules of our universe, then built up to an explanation of God.

You appear to have lost me, the basic rules of the universe? There are basic rules? Is "God is not a divine being. He is not soemthing that rules over you, and controls destiny. " a basic rule?

You don't need to use big words to sound smarter then me pal.

You got another word for sophistry?

[Anarchon]

At 6/16/01 09:54 PM, Special_Unit_FOXHND wrote: Who created God?
by all means..
if God was born from people's prayer and he made everything to begin with
who made him?

how about the wiccan belief that strong faith means manifestation

[HornedReaper]

At 6/16/01 09:54 PM, Special_Unit_FOXHND wrote: Who created God?
by all means..
if God was born from people's prayer and he made everything to begin with
who made him?

God is the creater...the problem with religon is that they can't defend this stuff. I mean according to the bible the world is rougly 6000-7000 years old...through science the earth is a few billion years old...

[shorbe]

Will to power, God is dead, and all that other Nietzschean stuff.

shorbe

[wdfcverfgtghm]

At 6/16/01 09:54 PM, Special_Unit_FOXHND wrote: Who created God?
by all means..
if God was born from people's prayer and he made everything to begin with
who made him?

The Ethereal Swamp Llama created god

[pyroarchy]

At 6/27/01 05:28 AM, Anarchypenguin wrote:

At 6/16/01 09:54 PM, Special_Unit_FOXHND wrote: Who created God?
by all means..
if God was born from people's prayer and he made everything to begin with
who made him?

The Ethereal Swamp Llama created god

Who cares....I really wanna know who created jelly filled donuts cause theyz tha shiznittle!