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?UN-Judicial Branch? 2003-06-29 17:09:04 Reply

Im just curious about what people think. What if the UN formed a Judicial Branch that was in effect like a Supreme Court of the world (or at least the 1st world and large countries). What if they had the power to declare/deny war instead of countries doing it on their own. I know, there are problems when it comes down to it, but what do you think? Also, they would decide about foreign import/export laws.

So, what do you think?
What would present problems?
What types of power should they have and not have?
Any other input on this subject?

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Response to ?UN-Judicial Branch? 2003-07-01 01:46:37 Reply

That is pretty much against the terms of the United Nations own mandate which is to avoid conflict at all costs. It's like the World Trade Oragnisation which is supposed to avoid trade embargoes, but they (majority member nation representatives) end up using retaliatory embargoes against unfair tariffs..?

So what happens? America said "If you won't (can't) overthrow independant nation regimes then we'll do it for you!" pre-emptively or whatever ..and that's where we all stand today.

How do you expect the United Nations to evolve as some kind of provocator between disputing nations (non-united nations) which is contrary to it's very name??

I do think that the security council is un-democratic (non-inclusive elitist sect within the organization) and even temporary (minor) members fall sway to common bribes.

Gezuz ..It's a new Millenium ..where's the new approach?

Rather than create a new branch, the whole organization needs a new structure which could at least start from a pretext of non-deadly response (including the proven to be life threatening trade embargoes) and build up from that new foundation (a right to life and liberty no matter the nationality, and despite or because of bad leadership)

Here's my radical suggestion thou; any un-toward behaviour from any geographical locale ...then you fly in the worlds homeless/hungry/poor (in search of a better life) or non-violent criminals (disreguarding all soveriegn concerns) or worldwide mass of civilian volunteers, or a flood of refugees posing as tourists, or the worlds sick and dying -- essentially saying, you cause trouble and we'll show you how things are pretty much worse somewhere else (for somebody else) and give you bigger problems to worry about; like who owns what?

..bombing with humans, instead of just bombing humans.

This all harks back to the days when convicts were sent to the far side of the globe like the dessert nation of Australia. Anyway, that's still my best alternative vision for teh future!

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Response to ?UN-Judicial Branch? 2003-07-01 01:47:21 Reply

Doesnt anyone have an opinion on this? Its the fricken UN! Dont you think they ought to have a Judical Branch? If so, what types of jurisdiction should it have?

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Response to ?UN-Judicial Branch? 2003-07-01 01:52:59 Reply

I dont like the part about them being able to declare or deny war. For one thing only the most powerful nations (U.S for example) would be able to declare war on anybody. Where as another counrty could be left with no other choice but to go to war with someone else and have the U.N say no.

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Response to ?UN-Judicial Branch? 2003-07-01 02:00:19 Reply

At 7/1/03 01:52 AM, Renegade51 wrote: I dont like the part about them being able to declare or deny war. For one thing only the most powerful nations (U.S for example) would be able to declare war on anybody. Where as another counrty could be left with no other choice but to go to war with someone else and have the U.N say no.

I can see how the power may be shifted a bit, but if it was a true Judical Branch, the Judges would be some of the best in the world, and they would have to have life terms. The Executive Branch would ask for war, and whatever else in this catagory, but the Court would have to decide. As far as economic issues, its best they stay out of it except in EXTREME circumstances.
I think it would be a good idea, but I wouldnt give them much jurisdiction.

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Response to ?UN-Judicial Branch? 2003-07-01 19:22:21 Reply

I don't think that an international organization should have such power over a sovereign nation as to decide who they can or cannot fight. They may disapprove, but when a nation can no longer stand up for themselves without someone else's approval, then they are no longer truly a nation.