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At 8/5/07 06:53 PM, Cuppa-LettuceNog wrote:

At 8/5/07 02:09 PM, Me-Patch wrote:

Your a jackass, you don't cut weed.

Yes. You Do. And you have no idea what the hell your talking about.

Just like every other drug known to mankind, drug dealer cut Marijuana with just about any chemical known to mankind. This includes other drugs, embalming fluid, bug-spray, etc.

This greatly increases the "high" whilst simultaniously lowing the quality of the actual marijuana, which means big profits.

Also known as "lacing", if my memory serves. And no, it's not that uncommon to find weed like that.

At 8/5/07 06:59 PM, Luxury-Yacht wrote:

Also known as "lacing", if my memory serves.

Yes...

And no, it's not that uncommon to find weed like that.

...And yes.

At 8/5/07 06:51 PM, Luxury-Yacht wrote:

At 8/5/07 04:43 PM, GaiusIuliusTaberna wrote: That is far better than getting meat from a supermarket since the meat industry waists most of the animal.

That's not totally true. It's in the industry's best financial interest to make use of all by-products of the trade to maximize profit, which all companies strive to do. The hide is made into leather, for example. They use all that they can because they want to turn more profit out of what they already have. It's just better business.

Well yes but there are still some thing that go to waist its not as bad as before but the point of that statement was to disprove that eating meet is unethical and that if vegans truly believe the meat industry is wrong they shouldn't give up meat but hunt there own. Of cores pussy hippies would never have the guts to look into the eyes of an animal then kill it. I don't really care about what the meat industry dose as long as they keep my steak veal and Capicola coming. When I hunt (which I will do as soon as I can legally own a firearm) I will apply the rule's I illustrated. And that's how I justify bringing down a majestic animal by respecting it as a predator is thankful for his prey after all man is an animal and we are predators.

At 8/5/07 06:34 PM, GaiusIuliusTaberna wrote: What do you mean I love tripe and liver if it's made properly like in spezzatino.

I'm going to assume you mean cow's tripe and liver and not venison, because that's what I'm discussing here.

Make blood jelly. My grandfather's friend Mario loves the stuff (I've heard its quite good but I haven't yet had the opportunity to try it)

Blood Jelly

Looks like tofu, feels like tofu, tastes like old socks. Lovely purple color brings to mind animal parts you're not supposed to eat. Authorities say that blood is one of the world's healthiest foods, but that's only because they're all vampires.

http://www.fiery-foods.com/dave2/weird_t hai.asp

I think I'll pass. Besides, it really says something when not even DOGPILE turns up a recipe for it.

What's wrong with sinew it's a rare commodity and I'm sure you could sell it.

Just because it's rare doesn't mean it's valuable or sought after, I've got a box full of comic books as a reminder of that fact.

Hides make a fur hat or something use your imagination I'm not a fashion designer (you must be thinking of my sister).

And be a target of animal rights activist with their cans of red paint? I've got better things to spend my money on.

Oh and he lives in a quiet suburban neighborhood in case who can't yet tell he is old school Italian.

And I bet he does all his shopping in a supermarket now, doesn't he?

Listen, not everything in an animal was meant for human consumption or use. Your grandfather might have used everything in the sheep because he had an inherant need to use everything in the sheep. When my family hunted deer, we used everything we could use (within REASON, something you seem to have a hard time grasping) and disposed of the rest.

At 8/5/07 07:22 PM, Proteas wrote:

At 8/5/07 06:34 PM, GaiusIuliusTaberna wrote: What do you mean I love tripe and liver if it's made properly like in spezzatino.

I'm going to assume you mean cow's tripe and liver and not venison, because that's what I'm discussing here.

Make blood jelly. My grandfather's friend Mario loves the stuff (I've heard its quite good but I haven't yet had the opportunity to try it)

Blood Jelly

Looks like tofu, feels like tofu, tastes like old socks. Lovely purple color brings to mind animal parts you're not supposed to eat. Authorities say that blood is one of the world's healthiest foods, but that's only because they're all vampires.

http://www.fiery-foods.com/dave2/weird_t hai.asp

I think I'll pass. Besides, it really says something when not even DOGPILE turns up a recipe for it.

What's wrong with sinew it's a rare commodity and I'm sure you could sell it.

Just because it's rare doesn't mean it's valuable or sought after, I've got a box full of comic books as a reminder of that fact.

Hides make a fur hat or something use your imagination I'm not a fashion designer (you must be thinking of my sister).

And be a target of animal rights activist with their cans of red paint? I've got better things to spend my money on.

Oh and he lives in a quiet suburban neighborhood in case who can't yet tell he is old school Italian.

And I bet he does all his shopping in a supermarket now, doesn't he?

Listen, not everything in an animal was meant for human consumption or use. Your grandfather might have used everything in the sheep because he had an inherant need to use everything in the sheep. When my family hunted deer, we used everything we could use (within REASON, something you seem to have a hard time grasping) and disposed of the rest.

Jesus Christ man I was just offering an opinion! Don't take it so personal.

And as for venison it makes great sausages I know that much. (my cousin went hunting and brought it to my grandparents who made it into sausage)

Oh and animal sinew has unique properties that science can't as of yet reproduce with equal result's. It is incredibly elastic you want a market for sinew sell it to ancient revival groups who build replicas of torsion spring catapults like ballista's or scorpions trust me they exist and they usually have to make due with ineffective metal cord.

And of course he shops at a supermarket you know we do have those in Italy. In fact we invented them (example Trajan's forum in Rome) that has nothing to do with it.

Also animal rites activists can kiss my ass. The only valid argument they have is that animals shouldn't be killed just for fur and that one shouldn't kill endangered animals irregardless. Which in this case is irrelevant because I would use even more than you.

Well I've never tried blood jelly so I will refrain from commenting until I have (assuming my grandparents die before throwing another party and inviting him) I will say though I doubt if anything could be as bad as tofu.

At 8/4/07 09:40 PM, AmishGangster wrote:

At 8/4/07 09:36 PM, IllustriousPotentate wrote: I agree. Prohibition worked to curb alcohol use, and today's stringent drug laws mean that no one smokes marijuana any more.

Are you kidding?

He's being sarcastic; he's saying that Restrictions don't work.

Morality and Fear of being burned worked pretty well; unfortunatly Science Can't ensue that kind of Positive hysteria.

Copy and paste from previous argument, I'm tired of typing this out:

1) There are around 400,000 firearm crimes in the US annually.

2) The majority of this firearm crime is committed by people who cannot legally own firearms due to their legal ineligibility, therefore they are already criminals. Therefore at least 200,000 gun crimes are committed by people who are not legally eligible to purchase/own firearms.

3) In order to support banning guns, you'd have to show that legally-owned guns cause more crime than they prevent in the US. But you can't do that (of course you can't) because there are 2 million defensive uses of firearms by law-abiding citizens in the US annually.

That means that law-abiding citizens prevent at least 10 times more crime than they cause with their firearm. It also means that since most firearm crimes are perpetrated by people who do not legally own their firearms and don't obey gun laws (let alone any laws), banning guns would only take them out of the hands of the people who, according to the statistical facts, use guns responsibly.

Banning guns would cause more crime.

4) To repudiate the argument consisting off: "but if there was no legal ownership, criminals wouldn't steal guns in order to use them"; I can prove how banning guns doesn't mean guns go away, and therefore guns banning guns is even more ridiculous, beyond making less crimes be prevented:

The UK banned handguns in 1997 with the goal of (obviously) reducing the use of handguns in crime. This stupid ban DID NOT WORK. The use of handguns in crime went up drastically in the UK, going up 40% in 2 years. Not only that, but if you read that all the way through, it seems that after the ban, the places with the lowest amount of guns had the highest amount of crime, and the places with the highest amount of guns had the lowest amount of crime.

UK gun crime kept going up after the ban, it went up 35% in one year, and doubled 6 years into the ban. In 2003 the UK had twice the gun crime they did in 1997 before the ban.

(end copy and paste)

Now, beyond Americans preventing crime with their firearms, they also use them for utilitarian and recreational purposes, and do so constantly without ever using their firearms irresponsibly or illegitimately.

Some people RELY on their guns (beyond for defense) for hunting. Some people live in rural areas, and are poor, and rely on the meat that they get by hunting. Getting a hunting license and tag for a deer costs about $50, but killing one deer can give you a year's worth of meat that is equivalent to several hundred dollars if it was store-bought.

Some people (like me) use firearms for legitimate recreational purposes, as sport, and their firearms have never, and will never be used in any sort of crime.

By banning guns, you're targeting LEGAL gun ownership. Legal gun owners are not the problem, criminals are. And in case you didn't know, criminals don't obey laws, and therefore won't obey gun laws making gun bans irrelevant and entirely irrational, especially considering how many crimes are prevented with guns by law-abiding citizens compared to how many are caused by them.

At 8/4/07 09:47 PM, Brick-top wrote: Cellardoor is going to hit this thread like a tonne of bricks!! Get the popcorn!

Yeah, OOGA BOOGA and stuff.

At 8/4/07 11:25 PM, MacGyverMan wrote: The second amendment was made to protect people from the police and the army, a last line of defense ageist a tyrannical government.

Why can't you just protest peacefully?

At 8/5/07 10:24 PM, TheSovereign wrote:

At 8/4/07 11:25 PM, MacGyverMan wrote: The second amendment was made to protect people from the police and the army, a last line of defense ageist a tyrannical government.

Why can't you just protest peacefully?

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At 8/5/07 10:24 PM, TheSovereign wrote:

At 8/4/07 11:25 PM, MacGyverMan wrote: The second amendment was made to protect people from the police and the army, a last line of defense ageist a tyrannical government.

Why can't you just protest peacefully?

uh because of a tyrannical government, the tyrant would just have the protesters killed

At 8/5/07 06:53 PM, Cuppa-LettuceNog wrote:

At 8/5/07 02:09 PM, Me-Patch wrote:

Your a jackass, you don't cut weed.

Yes. You Do. And you have no idea what the hell your talking about.

Just like every other drug known to mankind, drug dealer cut Marijuana with just about any chemical known to mankind. This includes other drugs, embalming fluid, bug-spray, etc.

This greatly increases the "high" whilst simultaniously lowing the quality of the actual marijuana, which means big profits.

Your so full of shit you must stink worse than a pig farm. I know four people who grow weed, they don't spray bug spray on it and neither does anyone else. PCP or embalming fluid is what you use to make wet, you have to pay extra for that kind of stuff they don't give it away.

At 8/5/07 10:38 PM, Me-Patch wrote:

At 8/5/07 06:53 PM, Cuppa-LettuceNog wrote:

At 8/5/07 02:09 PM, Me-Patch wrote:

Your a jackass, you don't cut weed.

Yes. You Do. And you have no idea what the hell your talking about.

Just like every other drug known to mankind, drug dealer cut Marijuana with just about any chemical known to mankind. This includes other drugs, embalming fluid, bug-spray, etc.

This greatly increases the "high" whilst simultaniously lowing the quality of the actual marijuana, which means big profits.

Your so full of shit you must stink worse than a pig farm. I know four people who grow weed, they don't spray bug spray on it and neither does anyone else. PCP or embalming fluid is what you use to make wet, you have to pay extra for that kind of stuff they don't give it away.

He means the people who deal the weed not the people who grow the weed, most of the the drug dealers do all that without the people who grow the weed knowing.

or do they???

:next time read the post, because he specified drug dealer, not drug grower

At 8/5/07 10:41 PM, LightandDark wrote:

Your so full of shit you must stink worse than a pig farm. I know four people who grow weed, they don't spray bug spray on it and neither does anyone else. PCP or embalming fluid is what you use to make wet, you have to pay extra for that kind of stuff they don't give it away.

He means the people who deal the weed not the people who grow the weed, most of the the drug dealers do all that without the people who grow the weed knowing.

or do they???

I couldn't think of one reason why someone would lace their pot, it's a waste of money and it's not like it would fool anyone who regularly smokes pot, and what do they get out of it anyway besides one less customer whos now scared to buy another mystery bag. It's just a police scare tactic.

At 8/5/07 10:45 PM, Me-Patch wrote:

At 8/5/07 10:41 PM, LightandDark wrote:

Your so full of shit you must stink worse than a pig farm. I know four people who grow weed, they don't spray bug spray on it and neither does anyone else. PCP or embalming fluid is what you use to make wet, you have to pay extra for that kind of stuff they don't give it away.

He means the people who deal the weed not the people who grow the weed, most of the the drug dealers do all that without the people who grow the weed knowing.

or do they???

I couldn't think of one reason why someone would lace their pot, it's a waste of money and it's not like it would fool anyone who regularly smokes pot, and what do they get out of it anyway besides one less customer whos now scared to buy another mystery bag. It's just a police scare tactic.

no if you read the guy you quoted before post, it increases their high feeling, and plus they still label it weed you dumb fuck, so the guy wouldn't know the difference.

and it's suppose to make the guy more addicted to pot and.......why the fuck are we talking about drugs in a gun control debate?

At 8/5/07 10:30 PM, Luxury-Yacht wrote: blank post

Brilliant.

At 8/5/07 10:51 PM, LightandDark wrote: no if you read the guy you quoted before post, it increases their high feeling, and plus they still label it weed you dumb fuck, so the guy wouldn't know the difference.

Thats the thing, you would know the difference. Ever smell wet.

and it's suppose to make the guy more addicted to pot and.......why the fuck are we talking about drugs in a gun control debate?

Because you retards no nothing about pot but propoganda. The very idea of selling laced weed is laughable, it would make you no extra money plus youd need a fuck load of pcp and youd have to pay for it. You don't get harder drugs for free, it's terrible buisness.

At 8/5/07 05:08 PM, Proteas wrote:

At 8/5/07 04:19 PM, Luxury-Yacht wrote: wolves

Fair enough. I wouldn't have ever pictured a wolf or coyote going after a deer, but I guess they would if smaller ground animals (rabbits and the like) were in small supply.

I have seen the site of a deer kill that had been fed on by coyotes here in Nova Scotia. Although I can not say for sure that the coyote's killed the deer or just found its carcass. I have seen coyote's chasing deer & I've even managed to shoot one about 4 years ago. But they are fast and blend well with the brush.
There used to be cougars in Eastern Canada & the Eastern U.S. I cannot believe they wouldn't have taken deer as well.

At 8/4/07 08:59 PM, TheSovereign wrote: - How many times a day do you need a gun? Zero. So why bother when we have a Police force and Army to protect us?

What if theres no cops around?

- Why do you need a gun to hunt? Why shoot those poor defensless animals? Why can't you stop pretending it's 1820 and just buy mean. Better yet, become a vegetarian!

I'm not going to become a vegetarian. Also, have you seen deer meat at the store recently?

You see if we made guns illegal to the public, there wouldn't be anymore murders if not, very few. Also school shootings would never take place because with no guns kids can't be influenced to shoot people.

School shootings only happen when people go crazy.

At 8/6/07 09:59 AM, morefngdbs wrote: There used to be cougars in Eastern Canada & the Eastern U.S. I cannot believe they wouldn't have taken deer as well.

Oh yeah, I completely forgot about mountain lions. Bobcats as well.

Alright, I'll start with the basics. Guns, love 'em or not (Personally I do like them.) are not going away. When you have such a world-shaking technology, it will not go away. Example: cars. Yes, I know that you're thinking "what the heck do cars have to do with anything?" I'll tell you. Cars are the cause of most of America's preventable deaths, right up there with smoking and heart disease of any sort. They are very dangerous and there is quite a big market for illegal cars. In irresponsible hands, cars can cause huge amounts of death and destruction, and they are pretty readily available, whether or not you have a license. And yet, no one has decided to get rid of them. I wonder why? (No, I do not believe that cars are bad, I believe that the people who drive them into little old ladies are.) I think it could be because their uses by, and conveniences for licensed drivers far outweighs their uses by and for criminals. DOES ANYONE ELSE SEE THE CORRELATION?!?! The story of guns sounds the same. When used properly by legal owners, they can be very helpful and a great source of relaxation. If you want to say "Oh noes, guns are bad and evil and so I will sit here knowing that my self-righteous elitist thoughts and well-wishes will stop all the bed guys. And I know for sure that Sally the Unicorn will come up to me and show me how she shoots RAINBOWS out her ass!" @#&($^@*#%$@*(^*!&@)^@#(*^_$)*(#@^)&*(@^
%#^%$)@*^%@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *Pant pant pant* Sorry about that, I do believe that I just lost it for a moment. Still, guns are good, they're here to stay, and if you even think about trying to tell me that meat is bad, I will B**** slap you with a dead fish. Or a steak. Or a chicken leg. Actually, screw that. I'll smack you with a watermelon, that way I don't go and ruin some perfectly good meat.

For your sake I hope this thread is a joke.

Fuck you for even suggesting that I become a vegetarian. We need guns to kill people like you.

At 8/5/07 10:54 PM, animehater wrote:

At 8/5/07 10:30 PM, Luxury-Yacht wrote: blank post

Brilliant.

Couldn't have created a better response.

Speaking of guns, a robber pointed one at a ONE YEAR OLD BOY (no foolin)!!!

Is that sick or what!

I get the feeling that regardless of what I say you anti gun people aren't going to listen so why then do we even have this topic. I mean I listen but your arguments against guns certainly haven't swayed me. Could we make this a civilized debate with mutual respect and consideration or is that asking too much?