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Posted at: 6/23/03 04:01 PM

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What is a Whistle Level?

The whistle level system is a a way of rewarding users for appropriately flagging abusive reviews or blowing the whistle on under-judgement flash entries that violate portal rules, as well as to punish those who abuse these systems, and also as an indicator (in that users profile) of his/her level.

What are the various Whistle Levels, and what are their pictures?

There are 6 levels (to see a level's picture, click the title):

Garbage
Normal
Bronze
Silver
Gold
Deity

See the bottom of this post for a picture showing these 6 levels, labeled and in order.

At what level do users start, and how do users raise or lower their whistle level?

Users start at the Normal level. Abuse (flagging legitimate reviews or flash entries) lowers a user's level, whereas proper use will gradually increase that user's level.

How does a user reach the "Deity" whistle status?

Only the user(s) with THE greatest number of whistle points are ranked at Deity. In this way, it is similar to Level 30.

What determines one's Whistle Level?

One's whistle level is determined by how many under-judgment flash entries and reviews that user has blown the whistle on or flagged as abusive. Doing this accurately increases one's level, and incorrect or abusive usage of the system lowers one's level. There are no specific set point requirements for entering the various levels, since it's a dynamic system, a sliding scale from bronze to deity. That is, the more points the deity user(s) have, the more points it takes to enter the levels between bronze and deity. Thus, one's whistle level is based on how many whistle points that user has, and how many whistle points the user(s) ranked at "Deity" have.

How are the point requirements for the Whistle Levels determined?

Correctly flagging a review as abusive will yield one whistle point when and if an administrator removes it. If the administrator determines that it was not abusive, all those who flagged it as such lose a point. The points gained from correctly blowing the whistle on under-judgment flash entries vary from whistle type. The punishment for mis-blowing the whistle is less than the gain from correctly doing it, so don't be afraid to do the right thing.

How are Whistle Points acquired?

You get points for blowing the whistle on a movie that violates the rules. A NG administrator will later review the quality of the movie, and remove it if it did indeed violate the rules. Upon removing it, all the users who blew the whistle on it get points for that. If, however, the administrator determines that it does not violate portal rules, it will return to the portal as normal, and all the users who flagged it will lose some points (to prevent users from flagging everything blindly) - although the point loss is less than the point gain, so don't be afraid of doing the right thing.

Points may also be gotten from flagging abusive or illegal reviews as such, and once enough users do this, an administrator will review it, and either remove it (giving points to those who flagged it), or determine that it's not abusive, punishing those users (but not by as much as they would have been rewarded) for their fallacious flagging.

When should a user blow the whistle on a Portal Entry under Judgment?

Reasons to blow each of the various whistles on an under-judgment flash entry are as follows:

Stolen: If the great majority of the flash entry was created by anybody other than the user(s) and anybody immediately associated with them submitting the Flash, then the movie is stolen, and should be flagged as such. Users who indicate that they are uploading the work of another with that person's permission are STILL stealing it.
Malicious: If a flash entry automatically leads viewers to any irrelevant outside links, or auto-spawns pop-up windows, or otherwise abuses or maliciously uses computer facilities, then that entry should be flagged as abusive.
Unsuitable: If a flash entry contains excessive amounts of or is composed almost entirely of pornography, racial, hateful, or profane language, disturbing images, or illegal material, then that entry should be flagged as unsuitable.

Read the Portal FAQ for more information.

When should a user flag a review as abusive?

In a nutshell, a review is probably abusive if it exists for reasons other than to give ideas, suggestions, comments, questions, feelings, or other kinds of useful feedback, compounded by any hostility or stupidity inherent in the review.

A review is abusive when it meets one or more of the following criteria:

• It is excessively racist, profane, or spammy.
• It attacks the author personally without providing any feedback on the actual entry.
• It advertises any irrelevant outside links (such as outwar) - keep in mind that some links are legitimate, such as a link to a BBS thread in which they discuss the flash entry, or their personal web page showcasing their high scores on a game, etc...
• It contains excessive use of CAPS or spam.
• It is completely irrelevant: copy-pasted unrelated text, babble (ggeafrkealkfjealfkjae), etc...
• It gives an extremely low score (0 or 1) without any basis or reasoning whatsoever.
• It's purpose is clearly and strictly to annoy or insult.

[ FAQ continued in next post ]

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Thanks for telling us about that in detail !!!


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[ continuation of FAQ from previous post]

If the whistle is blown on a movie that goes on to be blammed, how is this counted?

The user gets that whistle point for it.

Does flagging a review as abusive more than once over a few days change anything?

No, it does not change the whistle points you will receive if you were correct, nor the punishment if you were wrong. There's not much point to it.

Does flagging a review as abusive harm your score until the review is removed, or does it not affect the whistle score until the review is either approved or removed?

Until an administrator reviews the flash entries or reviews brought to his/her attention, one's score remains unaffected.

When are the points and rankings updated?

If a under-judgment flash entry or a review receive enough flags, they will be brought to an administrators attention. Upon reviewing and determining the fate of these flagged aspects, user's whistle points will be changed accordingly, and the update in level is more or less instantaneous (if there is any change). There is no set time at which an administrator will review flagged items.

What happens to the flags put on an under-judgment flash movie by users blowing the whistle on it if it passes judgment?

The flags for it are simply cleared.

What happens to those users who mark legitimate reviews as abusive or blow the whistle on legitimate portal entries?

Incorrectly flagging things will result in a lower whistle score, but if it is excessive and perpetual, more strict action may be taken on a case-by-case basis. Just do the right thing, you are rewarded for that. Marking non-abusive reviews as such or flagging legitimate under-judgment flash entries only hurts your score and might bring undesirable attention to yourself.

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Keep in mind that this is a new system, so it's not unlikely that small or even large aspects of it are changed or tweaked. If you have a question I did not address, or did not completely or correctly answer, please indicate that fact. If you have any suggestions regarding the New Whistle system, or anything Newgrounds-related for that matter, you should express them in the following thread: New Features

If you are interested in the Whistle system, you may also be interested in one or more of the following threads:

Whistle Level? - First thread to address the new Whistle system.
Whistle Power! - Tom's official thread introducing the Whistle system.

Official whistler blowers' thread. - first thread created with a knowledge of the system.
Rage's gift to you: Abusive reviews - Thread discussing users and entries containing abusive reviews for users to flag at their discretion.

The Abusive Review Crew - First club/crew involving the new system.
Whistle Club - First club/crew dedicated to the whistle system and leveling up thereof.


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well couldnt you just blow the whistle on a movie that wasnt stolen but will obviously be blammed to get a whistle point?


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At 6/23/03 04:03 PM, Intelblow wrote: Thanks for telling us about that in detail !!!

That's why Newgrundlin's here dude !! =)

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At 6/23/03 04:09 PM, gastro wrote: well couldnt you just blow the whistle on a movie that wasnt stolen but will obviously be blammed to get a whistle point?

That's what I was just thinking. If what you said is true, do you think we should get the administrators to do something about it?


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At 6/23/03 04:09 PM, gastro wrote: well couldnt you just blow the whistle on a movie that wasnt stolen but will obviously be blammed to get a whistle point?

Sure you could. You have every right to get your whistle score reset, your experience erased, or your account deleted. They DO keep track of whistles, you know.


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What is stolen?? If i make a movie that has the same general theme as "rockman neo", and with the same music, but my own pictures and everything would it be considered stolen? If all my artwork is different but the theme is the same is it different (I wanna make a parody of Rockman neo)


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dont get me wrong, i was just asking. i wouldnt risk it anyway. whistle points are like posts. they're there but they dont matter


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At 6/23/03 04:16 PM, Newgrundling wrote: Sure you could. You have every right to get your whistle score reset, your experience erased, or your account deleted. They DO keep track of whistles, you know.

I get it now. Oh well, I figured I might as well toss another whistle-related thread in here for people to find more information on it. Here's the link...

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At 6/23/03 04:18 PM, Troll_axethrower wrote: What is stolen?? If i make a movie that has the same general theme as "rockman neo", and with the same music, but my own pictures and everything would it be considered stolen? If all my artwork is different but the theme is the same is it different (I wanna make a parody of Rockman neo)

You could try reading what I wrote:

If the great majority of the flash entry was created by anybody other than the user(s) and anybody immediately associated with them submitting the Flash, then the movie is stolen, and should be flagged as such. Users who indicate that they are uploading the work of another with that person's permission are STILL stealing it.

At 6/23/03 04:19 PM, gastro wrote: dont get me wrong, i was just asking. i wouldnt risk it anyway. whistle points are like posts. they're there but they dont matter

I'm not getting you wrong, I was just answering. It's a very bad idea, not only morally, but if you like your account and its statistics.


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Im still unclear about this, would a thing with different art and all, same concept, and same music be considered stolen. It's going to be a parody sort of of Rockman neo, im pretty sure its not considered stolen but can anybody give me a yes or no answer.


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At 6/23/03 04:41 PM, Troll_axethrower wrote: Im still unclear about this, would a thing with different art and all, same concept, and same music be considered stolen. It's going to be a parody sort of of Rockman neo, im pretty sure its not considered stolen but can anybody give me a yes or no answer.

No, having the same song won't impact it

You say "different art but same concept" - if this is a parody, shouldn't it have a different concept? If it's your own drawings and it's not you just trying to copy Rockman Neo, it should be okay, but I can't give you just a yes or no answer without either more description or seeing it.


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Hey Newgrundling I was wondering? Since deity level is constantly changing and since your the only deity i've seen, if you keep getting wistle points will it have the same effect as the levels? Meaning that as you go up in points will I also have to keep blowing the wistle and reporting abusive review to say at my current level?

Just wondering

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At 6/23/03 05:07 PM, DarkBlueFlame wrote: Hey Newgrundling I was wondering? Since deity level is constantly changing and since your the only deity i've seen, if you keep getting wistle points will it have the same effect as the levels? Meaning that as you go up in points will I also have to keep blowing the wistle and reporting abusive review to say at my current level?

Just wondering

Having two deities is rarer than having two level 30s, I doubt you'll see it - and even if you do it'll only last a day until one gets only a few points ahead or behind.

Yes, I'm the only diety. I don't know how long this will last, especially over the periods I wont be able to access NG this summer.

Yes, like level 30, the more points I get, the more the point requirements are for silver and gold, so if you're in either of these levels, you might "fall out" if you don't keep up, yeah. It's not much to worry about, since there are so few levels, it would be like falling from level 25 to 19 just from not depositing for a week or so... you should be fine as long as you don't stop completely for long periods of time.


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Newgrundling... I am trying to be as polite as possible but I am only gonna tell you this once! I know you copied and editted my guide without my permission. I would like an apology and I kindly ask that you don't use my work and claim it as your own without giving me any credit. I MADE IT FIRST! (format, font style, font size, and font color)

I first posted this 3 days ago.

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At 6/23/03 05:17 PM, Kouga-kun wrote: Newgrundling... I am trying to be as polite as possible but I am only gonna tell you this once! I know you copied and editted my guide without my permission. I would like an apology and I kindly ask that you don't use my work and claim it as your own without giving me any credit. I MADE IT FIRST! (format, font style, font size, and font color)

I first posted this 3 days ago.

Oh shut up does it really matter his explanation is ten times more help then yours was and anyway all i saw you do first was post the damn level pictures so if you did'nt do that Wade Tom or Liljim would have so come off your highhorse.

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HHe could have been a little more original with the font and layout! He used same grey 12 pt Courier New font, I doubt that he did that coincidentally! All I want to know is if Newgrundling used my pic as a template for his pic.

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At 6/23/03 05:26 PM, Kouga-kun wrote: HHe could have been a little more original with the font and layout! He used same grey 12 pt Courier New font, I doubt that he did that coincidentally! All I want to know is if Newgrundling used my pic as a template for his pic.

OH, I finally understand why you are being such an idiot: You think I just took off your name and enlarged the picture!

Haha!

No. First off, the text in my picture is 18 pt. Ariel, not 12 pt Courier New, dumbass.

Secondly, I have the .PNG, which contains 6 whistle images and 6 text fields.

Thirdly, Neither of us made the pictures, so nobody should be saying "MINE MINE MINE" - oddly enough, you are the only such person.

Fourthly, I compiled the picture that upset you because I found yours to be inferior for several reasons:

1.) It had extraneous shit (like your name... you didn't do anything, why are you trying to make it yours?)
2.) The pictures were smaller than they really are
3.) Everything was mis-aligned
4.) You didn't even label the whistles (when I made the picture in question)

Also, ignoring your idiocy regarding font type and size, if I just edited "your" picture, cutting out your name and blowing it up, the graphics would be more gritty, dumbass.

In conclusion

a.) I didn't "steal" your picture
b.) "Your" picture sucked
c.) It was never "yours" to begin with. The pictures are public, and you didn't make them.

Besides, I already made a thread to address this:

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At 6/23/03 05:37 PM, Newgrundling wrote: In conclusion

a.) I didn't "steal" your picture
b.) "Your" picture sucked
c.) It was never "yours" to begin with. The pictures are public, and you didn't make them.

And that, ladies and gentlemen, concludes todays seminar of "How to be owned by a veteran".


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At 6/23/03 05:41 PM, War_Machine wrote: And that, ladies and gentlemen, concludes todays seminar of "How to be owned by a veteran".

Exactly... The guy was totally Alcap0wned !
He looks like a poor kid, trying to claim absolute right above all and shit... That's just pathetic.
I like Newgrundlin better than this other guy.
The only thing he's trying to do is to get known by harassing Newgrundlin ...

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Thanks Newgrundling

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Uh oh. Ummmm. When I write reviews I make a point of making them abusive for no good reason. Alot of points to be had on my archives.


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At 6/23/03 06:04 PM, JosephMerrick wrote: Uh oh. Ummmm. When I write reviews I make a point of making them abusive for no good reason. Alot of points to be had on my archives.

You're very lucky that I give people the benefit of the doubt, because I was tempted to ban you for trying to increase your popularity.

However, I'll just satisfy myself providing the link for your reviews, that users can visit without going through your profile. I didn't see anything that I would call abusive, so I do believe what you did was a popularity scam, and if I see you doing that again I'll probably ban you.


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newgrundling comes off as a light guy but i would never try to piss him off


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why ban sum1 for popularity? As far as im concerned popularity has no impact on anything other then that one number, is there something more i dont know to having an increased popularity?


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read his post RIGHT this time troll


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i did read it right and i know he didnt ban him, but im still wondering what effect popularity has on your account. Is there any?


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just personal satisfaction. n00bs like to think they're popular


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