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At 6/23/03 08:56 AM, pahan wrote:
and all in all i can say that most of you people seem to have no sense of tradition what so ever. at least thats what it seems like to me at the moment. so what if columbus fucked up and thought he was in india? shit happens. native americans were called indians for a long time and why not continue the tradition if we have no intention of offending native americans with the word?

It'd be like calling an overweight person a "piece of shit fat motherufcking lardass" with no intent of offending him.

so that clears up the eskimo matter :)

Actually Inuit means "people" in Innu, their language, it's not a proud word to describe their people, it's only a word. people. I thought dictionary.com would know this but I guess I was wrong in giving them the benefit of the doubt.

At 6/22/03 02:14 PM, Slizor wrote: Dude, negro means black in Spanish. I also think that I should get a different word, I mean they've wasted "white" on people who are kind of a pinky brown. I am actually white....very white, like walk outside and burn white. Tis not fair!

Yeah you never had negro beans man from Goya? lol

Use "negro" if you speak Espanol, other than that try to refer to people by name or else call them Black since you're called White, it's only fair.

"piece of shit fat motherufcking lardass" is a direct and unmistakable offence, as you can see.
however calling a fat person "overweight" is ok. it implies that he is fat, but is not directly offensive. though some may be offended. just as negro (or just black) implies that a person has extremely dark skin colour, but the word isnt directly offensive, yet some may be offended. in both cases they are feeling offended for no reason.

At 6/26/03 12:27 PM, pahan wrote: "piece of shit fat motherufcking lardass" is a direct and unmistakable offence, as you can see.
however calling a fat person "overweight" is ok. it implies that he is fat, but is not directly offensive. though some may be offended. just as negro (or just black) implies that a person has extremely dark skin colour, but the word isnt directly offensive, yet some may be offended. in both cases they are feeling offended for no reason.

If they're fat, call them fat. If they're blonde, call them blonde. if they're white, call them white. If they're black, call them black.

You don't go calling the fat person a lardass, the blonde an airhead, the white a nazi and the black a negro.

At 6/26/03 12:33 PM, nailbomb wrote: You don't go calling the fat person a lardass, the blonde an airhead, the white a nazi and the black a negro.

Fat - You might, but it wouldn't be very polite.
Blonde - You might, and it would be funny.
White - Not evey white person is Nazi you know. There isn't a connection at all.
Blacks - Blacks are Negroes. You must be careful not to get it confused wth 'n!gger' though, whoch is a derogitory term for a black man.

At 6/26/03 03:16 PM, bumcheekycity wrote:

Blacks - Blacks are Negroes. You must be careful not to get it confused wth 'n!gger' though, whoch is a derogitory term for a black man.

Then i think you'll have fun referring to black people as "negroes"..."EXCUSE ME NEGRO! DO YOU KNOW WHAT TIME IT IS?"

At 6/26/03 03:41 PM, nailbomb wrote: Then i think you'll have fun referring to black people as "negroes"..."EXCUSE ME NEGRO! DO YOU KNOW WHAT TIME IT IS?"

I'm currently reading a book set in 1871 Philadelphia. A (white) policeman is working on some unexplained deaths of black women because no one else really cares about it. He's getting some help from a black woman who attends the Women's Medical College. Needless to say, in this book, that sentence would have been completely acceptable, if a white person were to talk to a black person at all. It's strange reading this book, because it's got some words that never knew (like "negress" for a black woman) and some slang I'd like to bring back into popular use. The good words, like "capital", not the bad ethnic slurs.

At 6/26/03 03:41 PM, nailbomb wrote:

At 6/26/03 03:16 PM, bumcheekycity wrote:

Blacks - Blacks are Negroes. You must be careful not to get it confused wth 'n!gger' though, whoch is a derogitory term for a black man.

Then i think you'll have fun referring to black people as "negroes"..."EXCUSE ME NEGRO! DO YOU KNOW WHAT TIME IT IS?"

Is "Excuse me, black!" somehow less offensive. If someone said "Excuse me, white!" or even "Excuse me, caucasian!" to me, I'd shove my foot so far up their ass they'd have to get it surgically removed.

At 6/26/03 05:39 PM, dudeitsallama wrote:

Is "Excuse me, black!" somehow less offensive. If someone said "Excuse me, white!" or even "Excuse me, caucasian!" to me, I'd shove my foot so far up their ass they'd have to get it surgically removed.

Exactly, so why refer to other people based on their skin color?

At 6/26/03 04:17 PM, Freakapotimus wrote:

:Needless to say, in this book, that sentence would have been completely acceptable, if a white person were to talk to a black person at all.

Apparently some people like to speak retroactively then. O_o

I only use the colour of someones skin when I have to descibe someone. But every time I say that that person is black, I feel kind of racist inside. Anyways, I could go politically correct and not say anything at all about their skin colour, but honestly, if your'e a white man. you are going to assume the person your'e looking for is going to be white too.

At 6/26/03 05:53 PM, nailbomb wrote:

At 6/26/03 04:17 PM, Freakapotimus wrote:

Apparently some people like to speak retroactively then. O_o

Yeah, stupid people. Or the elderly. My grandparents still refer to blacks as "the coloreds" and I cringe every time. Then again my grandmother is 75 and that was acceptable in her time. She never bothered to catch up.

you should not call them anything. They are your fellow man, and you should not say "that black guy", you should say his name or such. If you have to describe him, thats okay, but don't use description words to name someone.

As for people being senstive.....think pre American civil war, and then you'll find out why. The word negro was not used the same as white. The word Negro was used as an insult, just like calling someone 'gay' today is considered an insult.....

*Passes by a white,black,asian, or anyone*

"Excuse me my brother could i have the time"

OH crap, now i gotta call wiggers wegros to be Politically Correct?!

Call'em whatever the hell you want. remember the first amendment

At 6/28/03 06:59 AM, leperchaun81 wrote: Call'em whatever the hell you want. remember the first amendment

Bin Laden used the Quo'ran to justify his actions, using the constitution is no better.

At 6/22/03 06:11 PM, nailbomb wrote:

It's like calling Native Americans "Indians" and Inuits "Eskimos".

All I have to say about that is this:
I live in an area with alot of Indians. In fact, they are about 40% of the population where I live.
Naturally, because there are so many, I do converse and work with Indians every day. Guess what? They call THEMSELVES Indains and take no offense in other people calling them Indians.
In fact, Some of them have gotten angry at me for calling them Native Americans. They don't want to be "patronized"....Go figure.

At 6/30/03 10:28 PM, FlattusMaximus wrote:

In fact, Some of them have gotten angry at me for calling them Native Americans. They don't want to be "patronized"....Go figure.

Well I assume they'd rather be called by name or by whichever nation they belong to (Cherokee, Sioux, Navajo, etc.)

At 7/1/03 08:13 PM, nailbomb wrote:

At 6/30/03 10:28 PM, FlattusMaximus wrote:

In fact, Some of them have gotten angry at me for calling them Native Americans. They don't want to be "patronized"....Go figure.

Well I assume they'd rather be called by name or by whichever nation they belong to (Cherokee, Sioux, Navajo, etc.)

Or maybe they'd just like to be called by their names. Call me crazy, but that'd be pretty nice. All joking aside, I believe if I were a Native American I'd prefer to be grouped (if I were grouped at all) into the nation I belonged to. Or better yet, why don't we just call them what we call ourselves - Americans?

I think that if white people like to be called by name they should do that to black people as well. People are people no matter what skin color they are.

At 7/1/03 10:24 PM, nailbomb wrote: I think that if white people like to be called by name they should do that to black people as well. People are people no matter what skin color they are.

Exactly. We've become so obsessed with the right label for people that we've forgotten that every person is an individual.

Yes, people are people, and there should be no racism on skin. As well as no racism on skin color, there should be no pro-skin color organizations, like the business-oriented NAACP or the hatred-oriented KKK.

Categorizing anything by race is wrong. Saying many words like n!gger is bringing back race. Why not say "Hey dude" or "Wazzup man" instead of saying "Hey blackman" or "hey n!gga" if you don't know they're name? Really, if the whole world was pot-heads, we would be united.

Welcome to Newgrounds Ravens_Grin. Shall we be expecting more posts from your part in the Politics section?

At 7/1/03 11:12 PM, Ravens_Grin wrote: Why not say "Hey dude" or "Wazzup man" instead of saying "Hey blackman" or "hey n!gga" if you don't know they're name? Really, if the whole world was pot-heads, we would be united.

I'll tell you why: because if you said "Wazzup man" to me, I'd probably slap you.

what confuses me is why black people get offended by ni***r at all. i just looked it up in the dictionary (the underlined bits are important:
ni***r n. offens. 1. a black person. 2. a dark skinned person. <expression> a ni***r in the wood pile- a hidden cause for trouble or inconvenience [from spanish negro]

ok, so firstly, n***er means black person, so unless they are ashamed it shouldnt be offensive. it is listed as offensve, but i was assuming that to offend someone you would talk about something they AND you felt was wrong. notice the expression; if racists mingled that use with the proper meaning, i could understand it offending a black person, as it is saying you are black and you are trouble. finaly, look at the last part, from the spanish negro. i think some of you were under the impression that these were 2 totally different words. well they arent. they both mean black, and though n***er did originate from negro, it has been branded by MODERN civilisation to be offensive, which i feel is a totally wrong judgement.

So why not call black people...black people?

At 7/4/03 12:46 AM, _crossbreed_ wrote: So why not call black people...black people?

So simple, but so true

At 6/30/03 10:28 PM, FlattusMaximus wrote:

At 6/22/03 06:11 PM, nailbomb wrote:

It's like calling Native Americans "Indians" and Inuits "Eskimos".

Accually, thats like calling all Native Americans Iroquis and all Inuits Eskimos- isn't Eskimos a kind of tribe?