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Could Flash... 2007-07-27 21:02:08 Reply

Could Flash Mx 2004 pro, Create 3d games? Such as like runescape, or Flyff?

I know the graphics wouldnt be the same, but is it possible?

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Response to Could Flash... 2007-07-27 21:05:29 Reply

Flash doesn't create/support 3D graphics. (Not really.)
The closest you'll get is imitating 3D with 2D graphics.


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Response to Could Flash... 2007-07-27 21:07:11 Reply

You will Not make an MMORPG in Flash, no.
Especially not in 3D, never ever, no.

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Response to Could Flash... 2007-07-27 21:09:24 Reply

At 7/27/07 09:02 PM, Stickmaniac wrote: Could Flash Mx 2004 pro, Create 3d games? Such as like runescape, or Flyff?

I know the graphics wouldnt be the same, but is it possible?

No not really but it is possible to simulate 3-d
alfabit is one of the few people who seem to have what flash is capable of down in terms of 3d.. and that's in as3
I doubt its possible in as2.

generally 3d games are programmed in java c++ whatever director uses, or another more complex/faster language.

Of course you could try, just in short no its not possible to creat something on that scale in 3d in flash


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Response to Could Flash... 2007-07-27 21:12:25 Reply

Would you atleaste be able to create like, a moving camera? that would rotate around your character?

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Response to Could Flash... 2007-07-27 21:15:28 Reply

I suppose the best way to do that would be to model your character in a maya or max or rener a frame at slightly different angles then on button press it cycles through those frames..

But you couldn't model a 3d character very well in flash to begin with but if you did then yes you could, it would just lag like a bitch and it would be grossly difficult code, that most people will never have the ability to write in AS.

But the answer to that question is yes, to an extent


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Response to Could Flash... 2007-07-27 21:18:57 Reply

Like in other codes, like c++, and others, i have a few other programs, but they have no drawing interface, to make a character, or anything, flash is the easiest program for me, or do the progams have drawing in them?

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Response to Could Flash... 2007-07-27 21:22:57 Reply

At 7/27/07 09:18 PM, Stickmaniac wrote: Like in other codes, like c++, and others, i have a few other programs, but they have no drawing interface, to make a character, or anything, flash is the easiest program for me, or do the progams have drawing in them?

They do not you generally import your objects made in a program like max and maya I'm not too familiar but no and it would be silly to make a 2d game in c++ to many unnecessary calculation.


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Response to Could Flash... 2007-07-27 21:25:46 Reply

what program did like, runescape use?

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Response to Could Flash... 2007-07-27 21:31:00 Reply

At 7/27/07 09:25 PM, Stickmaniac wrote: what program did like, runescape use?

javascript, but looks at runescapes shitty graphics


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Response to Could Flash... 2007-07-27 21:32:32 Reply

Some 3d modelling and animation and a java compiler... You could do it in notepad if you wanted java coding doesn't need a fancy compiler with a quick google you could find a bunch of free ones.


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Response to Could Flash... 2007-07-27 21:35:49 Reply

i just wanted to make a small little world, so me and my friends could get on, and kill a few things, so what programs would i need? I know it would be hard to create a simple one, but hell its summer, i got quite a while until school's up again

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Response to Could Flash... 2007-07-27 21:36:22 Reply

In my opinion the farthest you'll get to real gaming with Flash is DS games, or stuff like Gunbound which is actually great.

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Response to Could Flash... 2007-07-27 22:15:48 Reply

At 7/27/07 09:31 PM, NewFounder wrote:
At 7/27/07 09:25 PM, Stickmaniac wrote: what program did like, runescape use?
javascript, but looks at runescapes shitty graphics

JAVA. Not Javascript. JS is a browser scripting language, Java is a programming language. They're completely different.

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Anyways; Yes, 3D is possible in Flash, although it does not have native support for it. This means that you have to code the 3D engine yourself, which is quite a strenuous task and requires advanced actionscript knowledge.

In essence, all 3D graphics are "simulated." It's all just mathematical calculations controlling how different images/textures are rendered on a 2D plane.


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Response to Could Flash... 2007-07-27 22:18:05 Reply

At 7/27/07 09:31 PM, NewFounder wrote:
At 7/27/07 09:25 PM, Stickmaniac wrote: what program did like, runescape use?
javascript, but looks at runescapes shitty graphics

Holy shit, noobmania here! Let me set this straight:

1. JAVA IS NOT JAVASCRIPT.
2. Flash supports 3D, but only with installing components. If you have maya or max 3ds, get PaperVision3D component. Papervision3D works only with Flash CS3.
3. Flash can have 3D, even in AS2. I made a game with simulated 3D in it, but it involves complex trigonometry that even I don't understand! (I built on an engine from some site.)

If you're a noob and don't know anything about a topic, just shut it and get learned on the subject before you open it again. Otherwise, you'll get people confusing javascript with java.

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Response to Could Flash... 2007-07-27 22:42:08 Reply

i'd try that torque game builder... thats better for 3d stufff... i tried to dl the demo but for some weir dreason it didnt work

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Response to Could Flash... 2007-07-27 23:18:09 Reply

At 7/27/07 09:02 PM, Stickmaniac wrote: Could Flash Mx 2004 pro, Create 3d games? Such as like runescape, or Flyff?
I know the graphics wouldnt be the same, but is it possible?

Only if you believe.

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Response to Could Flash... 2007-08-03 16:03:29 Reply

At 7/27/07 09:31 PM, NewFounder wrote:
At 7/27/07 09:25 PM, Stickmaniac wrote: what program did like, runescape use?
javascript, but looks at runescapes shitty graphics

Heh, RuneScape was made with Java, not JavaScript, those two are Completely different.

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Response to Could Flash... 2007-08-03 16:06:30 Reply

At 7/27/07 09:09 PM, NextToNothing wrote:
At 7/27/07 09:02 PM, Stickmaniac wrote: Could Flash Mx 2004 pro, Create 3d games? Such as like runescape, or Flyff?

I know the graphics wouldnt be the same, but is it possible?
No not really but it is possible to simulate 3-d
alfabit is one of the few people who seem to have what flash is capable of down in terms of 3d.. and that's in as3
I doubt its possible in as2.

The Super Flash Bros did it actually (even though it never came out). He posted a link to it on the Flash Reg Lounge, even though I'm pretty sure it's dead now. It was really impressive.

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Response to Could Flash... 2007-08-03 16:08:21 Reply

Whatever happened to shockwave? That had hardware 3d support in it

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Response to Could Flash... 2007-08-03 16:10:59 Reply

runescape doesnt use javascript it runs in a java window it was programed with something else like c++.