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At 7/26/07 07:56 PM, IllustriousPotentate wrote:

I am open to change. However, I don't stupidly jump on bandwagons without good reason.
In order for me to change, I need to see facts. Research. Studies.

Again. You want people to change, GIVE THEM FACTS!

Theres info in those links i gave above. If they dont satisfy you, then you should do some research yourself.

At 7/26/07 08:03 PM, darkgift1 wrote: Theres info in those links i gave above.

No. There is not the first shred of actual scientfic evidence in any of those links.

There is no composition analysis of various chemtrails compared to contrails.
There is no numeral, statistically significant correlation between alleged symptoms and chemtrails for various areas.
There's no pictures of the part of the plane that does the spraying.

If they dont satisfy you, then you should do some research yourself.

NO. IT IS YOUR JOB TO PROVIDE THESE. You're the one that's making the accusation, that the government is spraying chemtrails, you're the one trying to convince us, you provide the factual scientific evidence to support your argument. And the fact that you can't present such evidence it only means one thing: that the evidence doesn't exist--there is no factual, scientific basis behind the notion of chemtrails. If there is, then you need to show this evidence.

After all, when I do the research, when I look at the science involved, I come to the conclusion that they are nothing but contrails and anyone who thinks that they are chemtrails is batshit insane.

does this mean that darkgift1 can shut the fuck up now and stop giving us sites which are just conspiracy sites, that don't give proof at all if so, thank you god

Yes.... Everyone who speaks out is automatically called insane.

I hope you understand Italian

This ones a bit slow but its in english

we're not calling you insane, we're calling you retarded because you got no proof that these so called chemtrails exist.

Here is an link about chemtrail conspiracy theory and here is one about contrails, i'm too lazy to read the articles myself but hopefully, this might convince you out of your theory.

At 7/26/07 10:00 PM, darkgift1 wrote: Yes.... Everyone who speaks out is automatically called insane.

No, not everyone, just people who come up with crazy theories with no evidence.

Tell me, in your own words, what would be something that would be indicative of a chemtrail but not a contrail? That is, what distinguishing feature is it that you think cannot be exhibited by contrails that convinces you of fishy business?

At 7/26/07 11:27 PM, Elfer wrote:

At 7/26/07 10:00 PM, darkgift1 wrote: Yes.... Everyone who speaks out is automatically called insane.

No, not everyone, just people who come up with crazy theories with no evidence.

Tell me, in your own words, what would be something that would be indicative of a chemtrail but not a contrail? That is, what distinguishing feature is it that you think cannot be exhibited by contrails that convinces you of fishy business?

a chemtrail would supposely stay in the sky, while contrails usually disperse after it leaves the jet engine, that would be suspposeldy proof, however with the right conditon, contrails can last just as long.

will someone fucking respond to this?!?

Whatever you say.

I cant change your mind for you, so fuck it.

At 7/27/07 01:39 AM, darkgift1 wrote: Whatever you say.

I cant change your mind for you, so fuck it.

Actually, you've already changed my mind.

Before this thread, I thought people that believed in chemtrails were just paranoid.

Now, I know that they are not only paranoid, but gullible, easily misled, stupid, and naive.

At 7/27/07 01:39 AM, darkgift1 wrote: Whatever you say.

I cant change your mind for you, so fuck it.

The reason you can't change our minds is that you have no evidence.

You're just showing us sites with pictures of contrails, with captions saying nothing but "This is anomalous for unspecified reasons"

Whatever. You. Say.

Youre right. Youre just the czar of right. You know everything and everybody else knows nothing.

Now we can all go back to our bullshit lives of happiness and sunshine.

Peachey.

I was at the beach yesterday and saw clouds that could be confused for contrails/chemtrails whatever the fuck you wanna call them.

Anyone ever think of that?

At 7/27/07 05:29 PM, darkgift1 wrote: Whatever. You. Say.

Youre right. Youre just the czar of right. You know everything and everybody else knows nothing.

Now we can all go back to our bullshit lives of happiness and sunshine.

Peachey.

You can stop with the sarcasm, you little dick. You're not making or proving any points--if anything, you're just illustrating that you never had an argument that could be substantiated.

At 7/27/07 05:29 PM, darkgift1 wrote: Whatever. You. Say.

Youre right. Youre just the czar of right. You know everything and everybody else knows nothing.

Now we can all go back to our bullshit lives of happiness and sunshine.

Peachey.

Sarcasm is not evidence.

If you could stop beating around the bush and actually give us some concrete reasons in your own words that you think these aren't ordinary contrails, we might be able to have a discussion here.

As it is, you've just given us links to a hodgepodge of sites that don't show anything that can't be explained by ordinary atmospheric behaviour.

At 7/27/07 05:10 AM, IllustriousPotentate wrote:

At 7/27/07 01:39 AM, darkgift1 wrote: Whatever you say.

I cant change your mind for you, so fuck it.

Actually, you've already changed my mind.

Before this thread, I thought people that believed in chemtrails were just paranoid.

Now, I know that they are not only paranoid, but gullible, easily misled, stupid, and naive.

lol

filler

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Dude.... You guys just dont fucking get it do you? What I meant to say was:

FUCK YOU ALL I GIVE UP.

Cocksmokers........