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Response to B/P ranks 51+ 2014-01-16 03:37:56 Reply

At 1/15/14 08:58 PM, VJF wrote: Thank you! Although it's the last rank, I'm still going to B/P a lot, sorry guys.

Wasn't expecting anything else. :) I'm planning on getting to #1 first though...

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Response to B/P ranks 51+ 2014-01-16 03:46:32 Reply

At 1/16/14 03:37 AM, Cyberdevil wrote:
At 1/15/14 08:58 PM, VJF wrote: Thank you! Although it's the last rank, I'm still going to B/P a lot, sorry guys.
Wasn't expecting anything else. :) I'm planning on getting to #1 first though...

You have a big lead, but good luck, I'll be right on your heals.


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Response to B/P ranks 51+ 2014-01-16 09:23:12 Reply

At 1/15/14 05:11 PM, Haggard wrote:
At 1/15/14 03:57 PM, Dev wrote: 055) 62690 0055 002.0 Haggard 1
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That +1 looks pretty nice there. TOP 50, HERE I COME AGAIN!

Hard luck there. I can't believe you lost that many ranks so quickly so high on the list... You can't be lazy if you want to maintain that coveted top 50 spot, I guess! :P

At 1/16/14 03:37 AM, Cyberdevil wrote:
At 1/15/14 08:58 PM, VJF wrote: Thank you! Although it's the last rank, I'm still going to B/P a lot, sorry guys.
Wasn't expecting anything else. :) I'm planning on getting to #1 first though...

Meanwhile Afro_Stud continues to place in the top 5 gainers month in and month out... :P


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Response to B/P ranks 51+ 2014-01-16 09:41:30 Reply

At 1/16/14 09:23 AM, Dev wrote: Meanwhile Afro_Stud continues to place in the top 5 gainers month in and month out... :P

Congrats to him, too! I also noticed that all three of us, Afro, Cyberdevil, and I, have been in the top 5 gainers spot for the last 5 months. Let's hope all 3 of us can continue the pace. We may be able to get a whole year in under our belts.


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Response to B/P ranks 51+ 2014-01-16 09:43:42 Reply

At 1/16/14 09:41 AM, VJF wrote:
At 1/16/14 09:23 AM, Dev wrote: Meanwhile Afro_Stud continues to place in the top 5 gainers month in and month out... :P
Congrats to him, too! I also noticed that all three of us, Afro, Cyberdevil, and I, have been in the top 5 gainers spot for the last 5 months. Let's hope all 3 of us can continue the pace. We may be able to get a whole year in under our belts.

I meant Dev not Cyberdevil. I just finished PMing him, and his name was on my mind. Sorry Dev, meant to give credit where credit was due. Man I'm tired.


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Response to B/P ranks 51+ 2014-01-16 10:19:16 Reply

At 1/16/14 09:41 AM, VJF wrote: Congrats to him, too! I also noticed that all three of us, Afro, Cyberdevil, and I, have been in the top 5 gainers spot for the last 5 months. Let's hope all 3 of us can continue the pace. We may be able to get a whole year in under our belts.

Yeah, would be cool if we can keep this up! At least until summer.

At 1/16/14 09:23 AM, Dev wrote: Meanwhile Afro_Stud continues to place in the top 5 gainers month in and month out... :P

And he has quite a lead already. Catching up might take a while. :P

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Response to B/P ranks 51+ 2014-01-16 10:21:34 Reply

At 1/16/14 09:43 AM, VJF wrote: I meant Dev not Cyberdevil. I just finished PMing him, and his name was on my mind. Sorry Dev, meant to give credit where credit was due. Man I'm tired.

Maybe you meant the Top times in the Top 5 Top 5? Looks like Dev's still topping that!

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Response to B/P ranks 51+ 2014-01-16 10:32:46 Reply

At 1/16/14 10:28 AM, RobotInTheRain wrote:
At 1/16/14 09:43 AM, VJF wrote: Man I'm tired.
Drink some coffee, maybe get yourself a Keurig. I wouldn't be able to b/p at this rate without mine.

I've been up for almost a whole day. I have horrible insomnia.


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Response to B/P ranks 51+ 2014-01-16 11:19:03 Reply

At 1/16/14 09:43 AM, VJF wrote:
I meant Dev not Cyberdevil. I just finished PMing him, and his name was on my mind. Sorry Dev, meant to give credit where credit was due. Man I'm tired.

Thanks, though I wont be adding to my total anytime soon unfortunately. :(

At 1/16/14 10:19 AM, Cyberdevil wrote:
And he has quite a lead already. Catching up might take a while. :P

A new #1 B/P'er would be completely dependent on Afro stopping or at least slowing dramatically. I'm starting to wonder if that will EVER happen at this point...

At 1/16/14 10:21 AM, Cyberdevil wrote:
Maybe you meant the Top times in the Top 5 Top 5? Looks like Dev's still topping that!

For now. Afro and VJF will most likely remove me from the #1 spot next month. Congrats to them, though, 6 months of top 5 appearances is pretty darn impressive. (This is the reason I wanted to have a list like that!)


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Response to B/P ranks 51+ 2014-01-16 11:36:03 Reply

At 1/16/14 11:28 AM, RobotInTheRain wrote: He will die of old age just like everyone else, the key is to outlive him and then surpass his final score.

But what if he passes the task to his children and his children to their children and their children to their children, and after a few centuries there are a hundred children subsequently logged into the Afro account sniping all B/P points that appear? :O

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Response to B/P ranks 51+ 2014-01-16 11:52:48 Reply

At 1/16/14 11:28 AM, RobotInTheRain wrote:
He will die of old age just like everyone else, the key is to outlive him and then surpass his final score.

Most of us would have to outlive him by a looong time to make up that difference, especially since there will probably only be a handful of submissions per day if things keep going on like they have been for the last few years.

At 1/16/14 11:36 AM, Cyberdevil wrote:
But what if he passes the task to his children and his children to their children and their children to their children, and after a few centuries there are a hundred children subsequently logged into the Afro account sniping all B/P points that appear? :O

Sounds like quite the dystopian future to me. :P


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Response to B/P ranks 51+ 2014-01-16 12:27:00 Reply

At 1/16/14 11:44 AM, RobotInTheRain wrote: Then you'd have to match his strategy and outdo him at it, train your descendants to b/p at never before seen proficiencies so that eventually your total eclipses and exceeds his.

I see. I must then get to work on attaining a legacy soon, the more the merrier B/P can be gained each day.

At 1/16/14 11:52 AM, Dev wrote: Most of us would have to outlive him by a looong time to make up that difference, especially since there will probably only be a handful of submissions per day if things keep going on like they have been for the last few years.

Amounts of submissions per day aren't still going down though, are they? Feels like when I came back at the end of 2012 it was pretty much the same as it is right now, somewhere between 40-70 per day. Didn't really notice the downfall till that point.

Sounds like quite the dystopian future to me. :P

For new users maybe :P

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Response to B/P ranks 51+ 2014-01-16 14:25:04 Reply

At 1/16/14 01:09 PM, RobotInTheRain wrote: Another tactic in overcoming Afro_Stud is to surmount his rate of b/p gains per month. As of right now I am the only person on the globe that is shortening the distance between their score and Afro_Stud's. Literally every other person in existence is currently experiencing their distance from the #1 spot widen and fall farther away from their grasp.

A wise tactic indeed, though considerably difficult to establish! Will be interesting to see how long you manage to top the list. :)

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Response to B/P ranks 51+ 2014-01-16 17:42:57 Reply

At 1/16/14 12:27 PM, Cyberdevil wrote:
Amounts of submissions per day aren't still going down though, are they? Feels like when I came back at the end of 2012 it was pretty much the same as it is right now, somewhere between 40-70 per day. Didn't really notice the downfall till that point.

My response to this is at the bottom of this post. Please check it out and tell anyone who might be interested as it took me quite a while to gather this info/construct the graph.

For new users maybe :P

For everyone below Afro_Stud! :P

At 1/16/14 01:09 PM, RobotInTheRain wrote:
Newgrounds will see a resurgence in popularity, it just has to make it through these trying times. Already there seems to be a very small but steady increase in submissions since the all time lows that occurred over the last two years.

I really hope you're right! :)

Another tactic in overcoming Afro_Stud is to surmount his rate of b/p gains per month. As of right now I am the only person on the globe that is shortening the distance between their score and Afro_Stud's. Literally every other person in existence is currently experiencing their distance from the #1 spot widen and fall farther away from their grasp.

That is true, but using your numbers as of this update, it would take you almost 400 years to overtake Afro_Stud with a daily gain 1.3 B/P. So lets just hope he slows down a bit. :P

This graph shows the highest daily BP pace obtained by month from January 1st 2009 through December 31st 2013. Each yellow point represents a Clock Day. As you can see, Clock Day basically vanished after 2011, showing no distinguishable spike on the graph... Hopefully this isn't too small to see

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Response to B/P ranks 51+ 2014-01-16 18:22:54 Reply

At 1/16/14 04:14 PM, Addict wrote: Is it just to get a higher ranking?

It's about getting the highest ranking! :P

At 1/16/14 05:42 PM, Dev wrote: My response to this is at the bottom of this post. Please check it out and tell anyone who might be interested as it took me quite a while to gather this info/construct the graph.

Graphics really give meaning to the numbers... looking at the chart the future looks dystopian no matter how you look at it. :/ Though in the past couple of days submission counts have been over 50 soooo.. maybe it's picking up again!

For everyone below Afro_Stud! :P

Hah, true that...

That is true, but using your numbers as of this update, it would take you almost 400 years to overtake Afro_Stud with a daily gain 1.3 B/P. So lets just hope he slows down a bit. :P

lmao, that legacy option just might be the only way!

This graph shows the highest daily BP pace obtained by month from January 1st 2009 through December 31st 2013. Each yellow point represents a Clock Day. As you can see, Clock Day basically vanished after 2011, showing no distinguishable spike on the graph... Hopefully this isn't too small to see

Ah, this graph represents user activity rather than actual portal activity then! If users overall have let up on their B/P collection rate that would make the trend a bit less drastic, and since the vote quote on the portal was changed it should be harder for any one user to attain all B/P points available in a single day. Could that be around the same time the chart drops to an all-time low toward the end of 2013? It should've taken a while to get used to the increased rate and start checking the portal more often again. Well thanks for the graph! As for size, how about adding a link to a bigger version in the dump? It is readable though.

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Response to B/P ranks 51+ 2014-01-17 09:52:37 Reply

At 1/16/14 06:22 PM, Cyberdevil wrote:
Ah, this graph represents user activity rather than actual portal activity then!

I think the max amount of daily BP attained also reflects strongly the amount of total submissions to the Portal as well. (well, except for August, obviously.)

If users overall have let up on their B/P collection rate that would make the trend a bit less drastic, and since the vote quote on the portal was changed it should be harder for any one user to attain all B/P points available in a single day. Could that be around the same time the chart drops to an all-time low toward the end of 2013?

I'd say that there's always at least that one person in the top 300 that's getting every BP point possible short of passing out from sleep deprivation. :P The lowering of the number of votes needed to pass judgement wasn't something I took into consideration and is a really good point as I think paces were dropped a little bit after that happened. (That was around the time I stopped actively BP'ing, so I'm not entirely sure...)

It should've taken a while to get used to the increased rate and start checking the portal more often again. Well thanks for the graph! As for size, how about adding a link to a bigger version in the dump? It is readable though.

Link to the full-size image.


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Response to B/P ranks 51+ 2014-01-18 09:07:49 Reply

At 1/16/14 10:28 AM, RobotInTheRain wrote: Drink some coffee, maybe get yourself a Keurig. I wouldn't be able to b/p at this rate without mine.

Yeah you're on a roll, with medals too it seems, and whistles... and what else?! Keep it going!

At 1/16/14 03:46 AM, VJF wrote: You have a big lead, but good luck, I'll be right on your heals.

I'll do my best to keep it. :P You have plenty of time to catch up during summers though, assuming you don't also happen to take a long vacation at that time of the year. This place is probably the most active when I'm not...

At 1/17/14 09:52 AM, Dev wrote: I'd say that there's always at least that one person in the top 300 that's getting every BP point possible short of passing out from sleep deprivation. :P The lowering of the number of votes needed to pass judgement wasn't something I took into consideration and is a really good point as I think paces were dropped a little bit after that happened. (That was around the time I stopped actively BP'ing, so I'm not entirely sure...)

I feel like I've been getting considerable amounts the past few months, but I still miss at least ten submissions every night, that's a minimum of 300 submissions per month that I miss... and the top BPer usually isn't more than a hundred or two ahead. So... yeah, that could be the sway. :)

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Thanks! Will save for future reference.

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Response to B/P ranks 51+ 2014-01-21 15:30:09 Reply

Doubt I'll ever see top 1k even. I just don't care enough and am pretty sure voting power is worthless after the changes several years back.

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Response to B/P ranks 51+ 2014-01-21 15:52:36 Reply

At 1/16/14 09:23 AM, Dev wrote:
At 1/15/14 05:11 PM, Haggard wrote:
At 1/15/14 03:57 PM, Dev wrote: 055) 62690 0055 002.0 Haggard 1
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That +1 looks pretty nice there. TOP 50, HERE I COME AGAIN!
Hard luck there. I can't believe you lost that many ranks so quickly so high on the list... You can't be lazy if you want to maintain that coveted top 50 spot, I guess! :P

It's not so much that I'm lazy, it's just that I don't have the time anymore. :(
Plus, I vote 0 on most flashes (because most of them deserve a 0 imo ;) ), so I "miss out" on a lot of saves.


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Response to B/P ranks 51+ 2014-01-22 04:30:57 Reply

At 1/21/14 03:30 PM, Blink-the-God wrote: Doubt I'll ever see top 1k even. I just don't care enough and am pretty sure voting power is worthless after the changes several years back.

Less people voting = more power to the ones with higher VP. :P

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Response to B/P ranks 51+ 2014-01-23 01:45:14 Reply

I see nothing has changed since the last time I checked in here. Afro Stud still going strong after all these years and I'm somehow still ranked up at 108 despite pretty much no activity in the last few years.

I'm kind of glad I chose a sudden retirement from doing this. I went from wanting to do this until at least 60k if not more to suddenly just stopping and it's lost all it's appeal to me especially since the re-design happened for whatever reason.

If you don't mind my asking what is with the blacklisted users I am seeing on the list? It's been a while since the last time I checked up on this list.

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Response to B/P ranks 51+ 2014-01-23 08:47:34 Reply

At 1/23/14 01:45 AM, Emlfuryoflion wrote: If you don't mind my asking what is with the blacklisted users I am seeing on the list? It's been a while since the last time I checked up on this list.

It's users who are save happy and get little to no blam points at all, thus "abusing" the system and letting crap in the portal. What we want is users who vote fairly, not save whores.


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Response to B/P ranks 51+ 2014-01-23 09:17:56 Reply

At 1/23/14 01:45 AM, Emlfuryoflion wrote: I see nothing has changed since the last time I checked in here. Afro Stud still going strong after all these years and I'm somehow still ranked up at 108 despite pretty much no activity in the last few years.

There's a new list updater, if that counts as a change...

If you don't mind my asking what is with the blacklisted users I am seeing on the list? It's been a while since the last time I checked up on this list.

To elaborate a bit on what Haggard said: It's a way of removing savewhores from this list; a practice originally started by Bahamut that I have continued on with. Users who fail to reach a save/blam ratio of 150:1 for the month are removed from the list for that update.


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Response to B/P ranks 51+ 2014-02-01 22:29:54 Reply

At 1/22/14 04:30 AM, Cyberdevil wrote:
At 1/21/14 03:30 PM, Blink-the-God wrote: Doubt I'll ever see top 1k even. I just don't care enough and am pretty sure voting power is worthless after the changes several years back.
Less people voting = more power to the ones with higher VP. :P

I've invested time to observe voting power and from what I've seen 1 vote = 1 vote. Voting power does nothing.

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Response to B/P ranks 51+ 2014-02-02 00:24:57 Reply

At 1/23/14 09:17 AM, Dev wrote: Users who fail to reach a save/blam ratio of 150:1 for the month are removed from the list for that update.

150:1 is a joke. I could get that in my sleep. Maybe you should consider changing this number to 50:1 since it's easily obtainable. Hell I get (around) 600 saves a month to (around) 100 blams a month and I vote "fair'. I personally think if a users figures aren't close to mine they're abusing the system, the people that are getting double the saves that I get but are still only getting (around) 10-20 blams a month are abusing the system and definitely are NOT voting fair.

I think that you should set the minimum number of blams to 30 for the month, so if a User does not get 30 blams for the month, then they don't get on the list. It's not that hard it's only 1 blam a day and if you can't get that, you're just not trying hard enough.

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Response to B/P ranks 51+ 2014-02-03 10:16:31 Reply

At 2/2/14 12:24 AM, gamejunkie wrote:
150:1 is a joke. I could get that in my sleep. Maybe you should consider changing this number to 50:1 since it's easily obtainable.

50:1 is realistic, I'm not going to argue that, but if I set the blacklist threshold there we'd have a list where nearly 1/3 of the list is blacklisted. My goal with blacklisting is to remove the worst of the worst from the list (users that rack up saves, while managing no, or next to no blams) while keeping the users that are at least making some kind of effort.

I think that you should set the minimum number of blams to 30 for the month, so if a User does not get 30 blams for the month, then they don't get on the list. It's not that hard it's only 1 blam a day and if you can't get that, you're just not trying hard enough.

After looking at last month's spreadsheet, there would be around 80 blacklisted users at that threshold. Though it does reflect poorly on the voting habits of many of the users on this list, I don't want to post a list where the majority of active users are blacklisted. I feel like it would just be better not to post this update at all at that point.


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Response to B/P ranks 51+ 2014-02-04 10:08:22 Reply

At 2/2/14 12:24 AM, gamejunkie wrote: I think that you should set the minimum number of blams to 30 for the month, so if a User does not get 30 blams for the month, then they don't get on the list. It's not that hard it's only 1 blam a day and if you can't get that, you're just not trying hard enough.

I hardly manage to get 30 B/P a month, let alone 30 blams. What have I done to you that you don't want me to appear on the list???! :'(


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Response to B/P ranks 51+ 2014-02-04 14:28:22 Reply

At 2/2/14 12:24 AM, gamejunkie wrote: I think that you should set the minimum number of blams to 30 for the month, so if a User does not get 30 blams for the month, then they don't get on the list. It's not that hard it's only 1 blam a day and if you can't get that, you're just not trying hard enough.

Well that would mean I'll be gone too.

If you guys insist on setting such requirements, maybe it's best to start with 150:1 and see what that does? It'd be a little silly if 1/3rd of the list gets blacklisted.


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Response to B/P ranks 51+ 2014-02-04 22:54:53 Reply

At 2/4/14 10:08 AM, Haggard wrote:
I hardly manage to get 30 B/P a month, let alone 30 blams. What have I done to you that you don't want me to appear on the list???! :'(

If there was a rule like that, there would need to be some kind of cut-off point -aka users who gain less than X amount of BP are exempt. Users like you and Auz are obviously good and honest voters and aren't going anywhere, so don't worry. ;)

At 2/4/14 02:28 PM, Auz wrote:
If you guys insist on setting such requirements, maybe it's best to start with 150:1 and see what that does? It'd be a little silly if 1/3rd of the list gets blacklisted.

150:1 has been and will continue to be the threshold for blacklisting, at least for the time being.


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