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Response to B/P ranks 51+ Apr. 8th, 2013 @ 04:12 AM Reply

Hmm... I'm wondering who that deleted user is. Does anyone know?

At 4/7/13 04:16 PM, Bahamut wrote: UPDATE 7th April 2013

Thanks for this most memorable of updates! Shame to see the list fall into an abyss of abandonment, but it was fun while it lasted. If this gets picked up and updated I'm bound to have made some extraordinary progress, so I'll be looking forward to that, whenever ifever it happens.

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Response to B/P ranks 51+ Apr. 8th, 2013 @ 08:49 AM Reply

At 4/7/13 01:33 PM, Coop wrote: That is a stupid idea - you know why? Because I am a Blammer and getting zero blams in a day happened 14 times in the past month. I don't want to be penalised for a lack of Blams on my account, because a) Blammable content has not been submitted or b) not enough people have voted to blam as well as me.

You would be punishing fair voters like myself and I would view that as a gross miscarriage of justice.

Oh for sure there would be a period of a week or two where we fair voters (I'm one too) would get penalized. But once the 5-whores figure out that they need blams to get the most out of the portal, they'll start looking for submissions to vote 0 or 1 on, and things will even out. I don't know about you, but I'm willing to give up a couple hundred points for the good of the site.


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Response to B/P ranks 51+ Apr. 8th, 2013 @ 10:45 AM Reply

At 4/8/13 08:49 AM, DiMono wrote: Oh for sure there would be a period of a week or two where we fair voters (I'm one too) would get penalized. But once the 5-whores figure out that they need blams to get the most out of the portal, they'll start looking for submissions to vote 0 or 1 on, and things will even out. I don't know about you, but I'm willing to give up a couple hundred points for the good of the site.

No, you wouldn't - you'd find that the save whores would start hunting in packs and submissions that don't deserve to be destroyed get blammed, just to give them all a daily blam. That makes the system worse.


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Response to B/P ranks 51+ Apr. 8th, 2013 @ 11:01 AM Reply

At 4/7/13 04:16 PM, Bahamut wrote: This is the end... My only friend, the end...

Sad but understandable... can't say I blame you. I will miss the witty repartee and social commentaries of this fine thread - unless someone else picks up the list. I'll just have to stalk you on the EXP forum....hehehe...

UPDATE 7th April 2013

Days to 100k B/P

Gagsy - 124.23

Soon....

B/P Milestones

Commander - Psychopath; Teach

150,000 B/P - Toocool100
100,000 B/P - byteslinger. Congrats!
75,000 B/P - Idiot-Finder
55,000 B/P - ixfd64
45,000 B/P - ThisAccountIsEpic
25,000 B/P - Alkador; la-vitesse; ohbombuh; Teach; VampireTico666

Well done by all...and it was quite serendipitous that I breached the 100K barrier on this last update. Looks like I'll be at #12 (real rank) for a long time...

The LIST

001) 193794 0961 034.3 AfroUnderscoreStud
002) 176863 0824 029.4 DrJam
003) 174303 1193 042.6 Punisher
004) 164909 0004 000.1 harryjarry
005) 151046 1183 042.3 Toocool100
006) 136724 0006 000.2 Wylo
007) 132340 0500 017.9 ViceFullbuster
008) 116331 0803 028.7 Coop
009) 115479 0000 000.0 courtday
010) 112943 0757 027.0 Ehwaz003
011) 100150 0828 029.6 byteslinger 2
012) 100017 0000 000.0 ramagi -1
013) 100014 0000 000.0 Denvish -1
014) 96251 0000 000.0 ReconRebel
015) 96211 0854 030.5 Gagsy

Looks like Coop is not going anywhere for a while, either...but Gagsy has three idle accounts above her, so all she has to do is keep fighting the good fight and soon she'll be the 13th user to break 100K. You go, girl!

Even if Ehwaz were to stop B/Ping altogether (yeah, right) at 200 pts. per week it would take me 14-15 months to pass him. But since he's active, I'll probably never pass him in my lifetime. That's okay - I think I'm going to focus more on blams - be a bit more critical of everything coming through the portal. I don't need the points, so maybe it's time for a change...

With that, I bid you a final thank you, Bahamut - your efforts, time and conversation has always been appreciated.

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At 4/8/13 08:49 AM, DiMono wrote:
At 4/7/13 01:33 PM, Coop wrote: That is a stupid idea - you know why? Because I am a Blammer and getting zero blams in a day happened 14 times in the past month. I don't want to be penalised for a lack of Blams on my account, because a) Blammable content has not been submitted or b) not enough people have voted to blam as well as me.

You would be punishing fair voters like myself and I would view that as a gross miscarriage of justice.
Oh for sure there would be a period of a week or two where we fair voters (I'm one too) would get penalized. But once the 5-whores figure out that they need blams to get the most out of the portal, they'll start looking for submissions to vote 0 or 1 on, and things will even out. I don't know about you, but I'm willing to give up a couple hundred points for the good of the site.

Gentlemen, I think we have all touched upon different partial solutions to this problem, and there may not be a clear-cut answer. The voting system can be programmed to be more intelligent, to look for patterns in voting, to determine who's constantly up-voting regardless of outcome or who's voting on every flash 24/7/365, and to have a set of rules that penalizes those users who don't seem to be playing fair in the long run. But here's the rub: what is the best way to implement these changes?

If it hasn't been done so already (I haven't checked) there should be a thread for "Fix The Voting System" where we can post our ideas and comments on what may help make and keep the voting process fair for all. Some will be good, and others not, but it will be place where PsychoGoldfish, Tom and the rest of the NG Programmers can read through it, get ideas and work out a plan to bring balance back to Newgrounds.

I do know this - if it's not changed soon, this place will become a dump for any trash uploaded. The mods and admins are fighting the fight, but they are people, and they get tired and frustrated over everything that's not working right. Some back off - and some leave altogether. I have seen the ranks of the EGB dwindle, and the NGPD disappear altogether. Yes, users get older, go to university or get jobs and wind up busy IRL - that's normal. But usually, as some leave, new users join and work up the ranks. We're not seeing that anymore - the user pool is becoming stagnant. There are plenty of new users submitting flash and voting - but no one seems to be interested in keeping the balance anymore.

The site layout is nice - but how can we get the word out to all the up-and-coming flash / audio / etc. artists that this is the place to not only upload and showcase your work, but to see what others are doing and help them along with constructive criticism and fair voting?

How does Newgrounds become "NEW" again?

Sorry about the rant - but it's these underlying issues that need to be answered before we all chew each other up in frustration.

As for me - I'm still going to fight the good fight, and help any way I can. It's not an easy job - but it's what I signed up to do!

*Salutes*


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Response to B/P ranks 51+ Apr. 8th, 2013 @ 11:56 AM Reply

At 4/8/13 11:01 AM, byteslinger wrote: or who's voting on every flash 24/7/365

I hit almost every single flash, give or take a couple a day. It's not how many submissions a day you vote on, it's how you vote on them. Putting a couple of your ideas together though, people who vote on 80%+ of submissions and vote 5 on all of them would be a valid target, I think.


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Response to B/P ranks 51+ Apr. 8th, 2013 @ 06:37 PM Reply

Even though I am moving upwards in the ranks and have improved a great deal in such a short while this still all makes me very sad. We all had a good run here and did a good job keeping the portal moving, but I guess this really is the end of things. Maybe if order is restored to the portal we can have the list back one day.


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Response to B/P ranks 51+ Apr. 13th, 2013 @ 06:31 AM Reply

At 4/7/13 04:16 PM, Bahamut wrote: This is the end... My only friend, the end...

Aw man :(

I thought this was going to be an April's fools joke, but I guess it's for real then. It's sad to see this list go, but on the other hand it is understandable.

014) 96251 0000 000.0 ReconRebel
015) 96211 0854 030.5 Gagsy
016) 91161 0223 008.0 FattyWhale
017) 90881 0448 016.0 Auz
018) 87590 0602 021.5 Sentio
019) 83572 0728 026.0 iscrulz
020) 82565 0955 034.1 Pokemonpoeguygcn 3

I'm starting to lag behind. I just can't find the time to watch the portal as closely anymore these days. With 16.0 a day I feel like I'm still doing fairly well, considering.

Thanks for the update Bahamut, and thank you very much for keeping this list up for so long.


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Response to B/P ranks 51+ Apr. 15th, 2013 @ 05:47 PM Reply

I'll make some comments later; I don't have enough room right now. ^^;

UPDATE #1: APRIL 15, 2013

Top 5 Pacers

001) 0388 048.5 Venom23
002) 0386 048.3 Teach
003) 0384 048.0 EventHorizon
004) 0383 047.9 Metal-Therapy
005) 0382 047.8 MessiaH

Top 300/List entry

Joining: None.
Leaving: Dent0n, Lord-Darkaos, jaded-snow, sabosh, lilhunter03, jonthomson.

Badge & B/P Milestones

Supreme Commander - LiquidFire
Commander - vampireTico666

Rank Milestones

dx5231 - Top 200

Enjoy the update!

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Posted it with an alt. x_x

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Response to B/P ranks 51+ Apr. 15th, 2013 @ 06:05 PM Reply

Okay, well aside from posting the #51 rank twice, (and posting the first page with my alt) I think that went over fairly well.

Anyway...

Hey, guys.

As you can see, I've taken over the updating duties for the 51+ list, for the time being. I feel like this forum just wouldn't be the same without this list being kept current, so here I am. While I would like to keep things going smoothly, there are a couple issues I would like to address.

First, is the topic of Blacklisting. While I am thoroughly annoyed-the-fuck-out-of by savewhoring, I personally feel that a stat list such as this should be kept 100% accurate. I do feel, however, that I should ask the regulars around here their opinions. So, if you are seriously in favor of blacklisting, then please let me know. If it's what the majority of people want, then I will stick with it.

Second, is the reason why I am posting an update today. I plan on posting updates for the Hexalist every 1st of the month and the b/p list every 15th to correspond with Knuckstrike's saver/blammer updates. Yes, that means the b/p list is going to become a monthly deal for now on. Hopefully that's cool with everyone. :)

Also, I plan on bringing back the top pacers list. (It'll be in a top 5 format.) And have scrapped the "Days to -- B/P" lists. There's been some minor issues that I have yet to resolve with the spreadsheet which is making the update take longer than it should. If I can get the kinks worked out at some point, then I'll bring them back.

So, yeah, I think that's it. Let me know what you think, at least about the Blacklisting. I feel like that is an important topic, if this list is to continue.


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Response to B/P ranks 51+ Apr. 16th, 2013 @ 05:05 PM Reply

Nice update Metal-Therapy! I didn't know you were continuing this list. Or is this a one-time thing I didn't know of?
The only "mistake" I can find is that the people who are not yet in this list can be in the top gainers list, like EventHorizon. Or was that intentional? It's not like he doesn't deserve a spot in the spotlight though.

Ooh, now we can hold races on who has the list up first. I believe I have a timezone advantage, so you better get up early :D.


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At 4/16/13 05:05 PM, Knuckstrike wrote: Nice update Metal-Therapy! I didn't know you were continuing this list.

Don't feel too bad, as nobody knew. Well, Bahamut knew my intentions, as he was the one who gave me the files, obviously. But I left him saying I had an issue with the spreadsheet, so I wouldn't say he knew I'd be posting anything, either. :P

Or is this a one-time thing I didn't know of?

No, I'm here for the foreseeable future. Monthly updates shouldn't be too large a burden on me. At least it will keep this list going. :)

The only "mistake" I can find is that the people who are not yet in this list can be in the top gainers list, like EventHorizon. Or was that intentional? It's not like he doesn't deserve a spot in the spotlight though.

Yeah, that was a mistake. Oops. Thanks for pointing that out!

Ooh, now we can hold races on who has the list up first. I believe I have a timezone advantage, so you better get up early :D.

haha, I bet you beat me more often than not -that timezone advantage will make it tough for me, for sure. ;)


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Response to B/P ranks 51+ Apr. 17th, 2013 @ 01:01 AM Reply

At 4/15/13 05:47 PM, AbyssalDarkness wrote: UPDATE #1: APRIL 15, 2013

At first glance I thought the date read "1st of April" haha.

050) 62143 0007 000.9 Haggard

Yeah 7 points. And ALL of them are BLAM POINTS!

I seriosuly like my status of semi-retired B/Per, though. Now I don't have to worry about how many B/P points I miss while I am away so much anymore. ^^

At 4/15/13 06:05 PM, Metal-Therapy wrote: As you can see, I've taken over the updating duties for the 51+ list, for the time being. I feel like this forum just wouldn't be the same without this list being kept current, so here I am.

WOOHOOO!

First, is the topic of Blacklisting.

I'm against Blacklisting and I would like to see the list as accurate as possible.

Second, is the reason why I am posting an update today. I plan on posting updates for the Hexalist every 1st of the month and the b/p list every 15th to correspond with Knuckstrike's saver/blammer updates. Yes, that means the b/p list is going to become a monthly deal for now on. Hopefully that's cool with everyone. :)

Ok. Not too much activity in the portal anyway, so a monthly update should be enough.
than it should. If I can get the kinks worked out at some point, then I'll bring them back.

So, yeah, I think that's it. Let me know what you think

GO AWAY! WE WANT BAHAMUT BACK!

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Response to B/P ranks 51+ Apr. 17th, 2013 @ 10:21 AM Reply

At 4/15/13 06:05 PM, Metal-Therapy wrote: Okay, well aside from posting the #51 rank twice, (and posting the first page with my alt) I think that went over fairly well.

Anyway...

Hey, guys.

Greetings, oh great keeper of the Hexalist!

As you can see, I've taken over the updating duties for the 51+ list, for the time being. I feel like this forum just wouldn't be the same without this list being kept current, so here I am. While I would like to keep things going smoothly, there are a couple issues I would like to address.

First, is the topic of Blacklisting. While I am thoroughly annoyed-the-fuck-out-of by savewhoring, I personally feel that a stat list such as this should be kept 100% accurate. I do feel, however, that I should ask the regulars around here their opinions. So, if you are seriously in favor of blacklisting, then please let me know. If it's what the majority of people want, then I will stick with it.

Personally, I would like to know my true ranking - but we don't need to post the user names that are blacklisted. As such, maybe for a blacklisted user the line would read:

99) 12345 ***** ***** ****.** *****************

So we could see the rank and value, but the B/P and user info would be masked. Just my opinion, though.

Second, is the reason why I am posting an update today. I plan on posting updates for the Hexalist every 1st of the month and the b/p list every 15th to correspond with Knuckstrike's saver/blammer updates. Yes, that means the b/p list is going to become a monthly deal for now on. Hopefully that's cool with everyone. :)

That works for me. The EGB roster is monthly as well, and I think that's a good schedule for everything.

Also, I plan on bringing back the top pacers list. (It'll be in a top 5 format.) And have scrapped the "Days to -- B/P" lists. There's been some minor issues that I have yet to resolve with the spreadsheet which is making the update take longer than it should. If I can get the kinks worked out at some point, then I'll bring them back.

Would be nice.

So, yeah, I think that's it. Let me know what you think, at least about the Blacklisting. I feel like that is an important topic, if this list is to continue.

BTW, please check your PM - I have some ideas for you that may help you in your list management.

Thanks for picking up the list - it is much appreciated!


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Response to B/P ranks 51+ Apr. 17th, 2013 @ 11:39 AM Reply

At 4/17/13 01:01 AM, Haggard wrote: At first glance I thought the date read "1st of April" haha.

I like keeping track of the updates. Though now that it's monthly, it shouldn't be too hard. Oh well.

GO AWAY! WE WANT BAHAMUT BACK!

Me too! Maybe if you ask really nicely...?

Just kidding. ;)

Hey, an update is an update, right? :P

At 4/17/13 10:21 AM, byteslinger wrote: Personally, I would like to know my true ranking - but we don't need to post the user names that are blacklisted. As such, maybe for a blacklisted user the line would read:

99) 12345 ***** ***** ****.** *****************

So we could see the rank and value, but the B/P and user info would be masked. Just my opinion, though.

I actually suggested the same thing to Bahamut a while back, and it's something I've been considering myself. It seems like most are in favor of accuracy, though -hopefully a few more of us will weigh in before I post another update.

BTW, please check your PM - I have some ideas for you that may help you in your list management.

Looks like a pretty cool setup, though I will admit to being a little overwhelmed at this point, after just learning the Hexalist and now the b/p update. (Things are still sinking in, you know?) :P As I said before, I am having a slight issue with the spreadsheet for the b/p list, so maybe this method will prove easier/faster, once I am able to sit down and figure it out. Thanks for sharing. :)


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At 4/15/13 05:47 PM, AbyssalDarkness wrote: UPDATE #1: APRIL 15, 2013
014) 100014 0000 000.0 Denvish
015) 96367 0156 019.5 Gagsy (+1)
016) 96251 0000 000.0 ReconRebel (-1)
017) 91192 0031 003.9 FattyWhale
018) 90991 0110 013.8 Auz
019) 87889 0299 037.4 Sentio
020) 83817 0245 030.6 iscrulz
021) 82854 0289 036.1 Pokemonpoeguygcn

I'm up to my neck in exams right now, so I haven't had much time to collect BP. Hence the lousy pace. I got some assignments and stuff to take care off in the coming week, so I probably won't do much better on the next update either. Oh well...

Thanks for the update AbyssalDarkness! (lol)


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Response to B/P ranks 51+ Apr. 17th, 2013 @ 02:40 PM Reply

I must say while I like the sentiment behind black listing, it is annoying from a personal perspective to not be able to see my true rank or know how far I am from passing invisible users.

Saying that I am all for naming and shaming on this list- include them, but with an asterix or something to mark them as the trash that they are. That should be sufficient incentive in itself to vote properly, as at the moment I suspect many regulars around here don't actually know who the blacklisted users are.

Thanks for taking this on- this forum wouldn't be the same without it.


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Response to B/P ranks 51+ Apr. 17th, 2013 @ 04:03 PM Reply

At 4/15/13 05:54 PM, Metal-Therapy wrote: 154) 34068 0015 001.9 Rarebreed
155) 33866 0000 000.0 FIGMENTUM
156) 33558 0029 003.6 SCTE3

29 is not too bad. Glad to see the blams were enough to get me to 6,900 blams! Would be nice if the test content would get blammed more often. Seems a pity that a majority of those who submit those test entries don't realize they can just as easily test the game/flash movie in the program they are using or by uploading it to the Dumping Grounds by clicking on the box with a down arrow hovering over it.

Second, is the reason why I am posting an update today. I plan on posting updates for the Hexalist every 1st of the month and the b/p list every 15th to correspond with Knuckstrike's saver/blammer updates. Yes, that means the b/p list is going to become a monthly deal for now on. Hopefully that's cool with everyone. :)

Having the update only once a month instead of twice a week is alright with me. Means less stress with having to update twice a month.

Also, I plan on bringing back the top pacers list. (It'll be in a top 5 format.) And have scrapped the "Days to -- B/P" lists. There's been some minor issues that I have yet to resolve with the spreadsheet which is making the update take longer than it should. If I can get the kinks worked out at some point, then I'll bring them back.

Replacing the Days To -- format is also good, I can see how it might encourage more blind voting among a few users. A top 5 pacers list though would be neat.

So, yeah, I think that's it. Let me know what you think, at least about the Blacklisting. I feel like that is an important topic, if this list is to continue.
At 4/17/13 11:39 AM, Metal-Therapy wrote:
At 4/17/13 10:21 AM, byteslinger wrote: Personally, I would like to know my true ranking - but we don't need to post the user names that are blacklisted. As such, maybe for a blacklisted user the line would read:

99) 12345 ***** ***** ****.** *****************

So we could see the rank and value, but the B/P and user info would be masked. Just my opinion, though.
I actually suggested the same thing to Bahamut a while back, and it's something I've been considering myself. It seems like most are in favor of accuracy, though -hopefully a few more of us will weigh in before I post another update.

I would be in favor of blacklisting being done this way. The list stays accurate and the user's name is not on the list at the same time. Seems like a win-win as far as blacklisting users goes.

Thanks for the update Metal-Therapy!


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At 4/15/13 06:05 PM, Metal-Therapy wrote: First, is the topic of Blacklisting. While I am thoroughly annoyed-the-fuck-out-of by savewhoring, I personally feel that a stat list such as this should be kept 100% accurate. I do feel, however, that I should ask the regulars around here their opinions. So, if you are seriously in favor of blacklisting, then please let me know. If it's what the majority of people want, then I will stick with it.

Seriously, can't we just change the names to "SavewhoreCunt1" and so forth, keeping the rank and position there, so we at least know which way we're heading?

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Response to B/P ranks 51+ Apr. 22nd, 2013 @ 04:28 PM Reply

Hai everyone. There's some major trends in B/P I wanted to talk about, and I didn't know
of any other appropriate place to put this, as General doesn't have all the same venerable
stat whores, nor the intelligence/willingness to read shit.

Herein, I've noticed a few things that have confused me:
1.) Flashes are taking longer & longer to pass. When I first returned in 2012, I noticed
immediately there were more flashes currently under judgement than usual, and
for longer periods of time. Seriously, you could have a flash submitted at 5:43am & have
it not get 200 votes until maybe 7, 8, even 11pm that night. Could this be due to less
active B/P'ers/less interest in B/P'ing?

2.) Less blams than ever. As it seems, the Blam:Save ratio has been incredibly low since
before even I signed up. This isn't nessecarily a bad thing, unless you're going for 100k
Blams(TooHot100). But I was astounded to see an average of 2 flashes in the obits per
day. There could be a couple of causes for this. Perhaps there's less assholes trying to
spam it up w/ bullshit, and more people making a genuine creation? Or maybe the
community(or what's left of it) has become more merciful over the years? I look back
to obits from memorable dates in my life & see 150+ blammed flashes in the obits.
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Nowadays, there's more flashes being submitted than the 50 Judgement slots can keep
up with(yes, I know there's an Under Judgement option hush). This is real different
from the 2008 Flash Portal community I remember, and even more different to some
older users. So, what's all your opinions on this? Any answers to these? Please discuss
this freely & as maturely as you can. And mods, please don't delete this - this is a B/P
ranks thread, so we could discuss B/P right? Have a nice day.

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Response to B/P ranks 51+ Apr. 27th, 2013 @ 09:15 AM Reply

At 4/15/13 05:47 PM, AbyssalDarkness wrote: Stuff

Thanks for the update! Glad to see the list keeps on going; I was half-expecting you to take over this one as well. :)

As for the question regarding blacklisting, the censored version sounds/looks good. It'd give a clearer picture of the rankings without giving bad practice any privilege.

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At 4/22/13 04:28 PM, darknessdweller wrote: Hai everyone. There's some major trends in B/P I wanted to talk about...(etc)

As the current caretaker of NGLogs, I have had the opportunity to track general user activity and volume since late 2006. You are correct - in 2008 it was Newgrounds best year. Blam / Protect ratios were about 1:2.; there were over 120 submissions a day; and the site was very active.

In 2008, NGLogs averaged over 4000 log requests per month, with over 300+ active users. Some logged daily, some weekly, some randomly - but it was humming. (check out the graph)

Since then, for the following 5 years, activity steadily declined, almost linearly. Now, in early 2013, activity at NGLogs has dropped down to it's lowest in years.

Now, I will admit I haven't fixed all the quirks in it, but from a statistical view, it does the job well.

Going beyond the obvious drop in usage, and digging around the data, I've discovered that:

a) The number of flashes being submitted to the portal on a daily basis have dropped 40+% since 2008's max

Perfect example: Clock day 2008 had over 1,200 submissions. 2009 was 900+. 2010 saw 400. 2011 barely hit 200. And 2012 was almost a non-event

b) More of the "older" accounts have stopped logging. Most of the logs are done by lower-level users who have just started and are trying to build up stats.

c) The Blam/Protect ratio is now hovering around 1:20, maybe worse

I have an idea of what has transpired: All of the creative users in 2008 were younger, and had time to not only create flashes, but spend time voting on them, socializing, and spreading the word. As time progressed, many of them graduated, went to university, got jobs - real life got in the way.

Add in a recession and some economic issues, and now all of these artists spend less time on the portal. The submission volume (and overall quality) start to drop. The various crews start to break up and go their separate ways.

The new users that come on board seem to be following the general course of this generation: "what's in it for me? How can I get immediate gratification?". Seeing that users are graded on total points, and that passing something is generally easier than blamming it, the newer users just pass what they can. Oh, some do vote fairly - but people's version of fair can vary greatly.

In addition, we are constantly battling "shovelware" and "ripoff" accounts - users that don't create original work, but submit copies of other work to either promote other products and sites, or to garner points and attention for themselves.

Overall, it's an aging problem. The users of 2008, 5 years later, have mostly grown up and moved on. Those who've come in are more self-centered (not ALL of them, but a good portion). High school kids are more interested in posting their daily lives on facebook and twitter, living life vicariously through social media. They want to be entertained, and they entertain eachother by sharing inane portions of their day (@GeekGurl2010: Just passed a waffle thru my nose. LOL)

Tom, Wade and everyone else here want this site to flourish and grow - and the only way to do that, IMHO, is to make it more attractive to real flash and audio artists. People need incentive to take time from their day to be creative, and right now, time is money...so that's where we go.

It's my thought that Newgrounds should hold 4 contests a year (every three months) in a few different categories (games, stories, experimental, etc); judging would be done by Newgrounds staff and hand-selected users (NOT the general populace); the top winners and runners-up would win a reward (in the form of a VISA gift card, amount TBD). At the end of the year, a final "best of the year" judging is done, and the "NEWGIES" (Newground's version of the Grammy's) award would go to the best entry in each category (with another prize) - and those users would be showcased on Newgrounds homepage for the following year, until the next annual judging.

Yes, it does involve some cash outflow, but sometimes you have to invest in something to get something back. When word gets out that Newgrounds is attracting new artists and rewarding the best for their work, you'll get more submissions and hopefully more quality.

But the second part of this is to revamp the voting system. We've kicked around a lot of ideas, and I'll skip regurgitating them here - but the voting process has to be redone to help keep fairness in the process.

Sorry about MY long rant, but you did bring up a lot of points in your post. It's true - it all becomes visible here in the BP 51+ list. So now that we see the symptoms - how do we clean up the cause?


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Response to B/P ranks 51+ Apr. 29th, 2013 @ 04:57 PM Reply

Thank you for your input, byteslinger. It was very nice to have in front of me the big picture as far as statistics
go. It's a shame what can happen to the popularity of a website/game once the mass majority of the participants
step outside, get a life, lose interest, or take on responsibilities. In 2008, I was only 12 & had literally no vocations
other than school. Therefore, I was able to be in the Flash Portal every 30 - 90 mins, voting on everything.

At 4/27/13 10:05 AM, byteslinger wrote:
Blam / Protect ratios were about 1:2.
c) The Blam/Protect ratio is now hovering around 1:20, maybe worse

My gosh...so this is what we've become. Some call it merciful, some call it save whoring.

a) The number of flashes being submitted to the portal on a daily basis have dropped 40+% since 2008's max

Perfect example: Clock day 2008 had over 1,200 submissions. 2009 was 900+. 2010 saw 400. 2011 barely hit 200. And 2012 was almost a non-event

I can understand that completely. Friday 8/15/2008, at 5:58am I woke up & saved everything in the Portal nonstop
through til 8:34pm that night. I recall around 1pm that day, there were 3 flashes per minute, each of which passed
within 4 - 7 minutes of submission. When I came back on darkness-alt on 8/15/2012, it was just barely enough to
get him from Civilian to Portal Guard.

b) More of the "older" accounts have stopped logging. Most of the logs are done by lower-level users who have just started and are trying to build up stats.


I have an idea of what has transpired: All of the creative users in 2008 were younger, and had time to not only create flashes, but spend time voting on them, socializing, and spreading the word. As time progressed, many of them graduated, went to university, got jobs - real life got in the way.

^my reply up top.

In addition, we are constantly battling "shovelware" and "ripoff" accounts - users that don't create original work, but submit copies of other work to either promote other products and sites, or to garner points and attention for themselves.

Would these include all the accounts representing other flash gaming websites submitting seemingly high quality
games every single day?

Sorry about MY long rant, but you did bring up a lot of points in your post. It's true - it all becomes visible here in the BP 51+ list. So now that we see the symptoms - how do we clean up the cause?

Well, I could just go back into hiding, or perhaps act like Pimp & get on for a minute a day to deposit. I, alone cannot
restore the portal to it's former glory. We'll need a re-rise in activity, but as for NG becoming more blams than saves
in a day(2003 Obits) I fear that will permanently be a thing of the past.

Everything dies out sooner or later. Just look at Halo 3, RuneScape, cancelled TV shows, AM radio...
NG will never die completely, but it could forever remain a mere shell of its' former self.

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Response to B/P ranks 51+ Apr. 29th, 2013 @ 08:13 PM Reply

Alright, so based on your responses to the blacklisting issue, I've decided to go ahead and censor the savewhores while keeping the statistical integrity of the list intact.

Here's an example of what a blacklisted rank will look like on the list.

300) 55555 0000 000.0 Blacklisted User

The user's rank will still be displayed, along with their b/p totals. I figure this information may be useful to the people viewing this list, so they will remain. Gain, pace and alias will all be removed, however, replaced by 0's and the "blacklisted User" tag. Hopefully this looks good to everybody.

Also, I have set the threshold for blacklisting at a 1 : 100 blam to save ratio. I think this is more than fair, seeings how I personally have had a blam/save ratio of around 1 : 23 since returning to b/p'ing back in November -and I'm not an overly harsh voter by any means. If you can't get 1 blam for every 100 saves, then you fail at voting.

See you all on the 15th.


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Response to B/P ranks 51+ Apr. 30th, 2013 @ 10:19 AM Reply

At 4/29/13 08:13 PM, Metal-Therapy wrote: Also, I have set the threshold for blacklisting at a 1 : 100 blam to save ratio.

That sounds manageable. :) Good knowing.

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Response to B/P ranks 51+ May. 14th, 2013 @ 11:36 PM Reply

I was testing some things with the spreadsheet and I pressed CTRL+S when I shouldn't have and managed to lose the b/p numbers from April 15th. So basically your b/p totals on this update aren't based on 1 month's time, just you you know. (More like around 3 weeks.) Ranks/ranks gained are both fine, though. Everything will be back to normal next update, provided I don't screw with things too much again. :P

Also, I changed the amount of "ranks gained" to get the ol' italics tag to 10, seeings how we're going a month between updates now.

UPDATE #2: MAY 15, 2013

Top 5 Pacers

Rank | Gain | Pace | User

001) 976 46.5 Idiot-Finder
002) 968 46.1 ixfd64
003) 965 46.0 Teach
004) 959 45.7 Pyro-911
005) 958 45.6 Metal-Therapy

Times Placed in Top 5

Rank | Times Placed | User

001) 2 Teach
002) 2 Metal-Therapy
003) 1 Venom23
004) 1 MessiaH
005) 1 Idiot-Finder
006) 1 ixfd64
007) 1 LiquidFire

^ This list may need to move to another post, eventually...

Top 300/List entry

Joining: Onett (missing user), Madwon.
Leaving: Aci6, hongkongexpress.

Badge & B/P Milestones

Blitz-Mage - 40,000 B/P

Sirtroymoon - Commander
AnonymousAlchemist - Commander
nightdragostea - Commander

Rank Milestones

Metal-Therapy - Top 100
fellowesart - Top 150
LiquidFire - Top 200
jamesrules - Top 250
SFS1313 - Top 250

Enjoy the update!

The LIST

40+ per day BPers are bolded, 10+ rank climbers are italicised.

001) 195599 0900 042.9 AfroUnderscoreStud
002) 178208 0728 034.7 DrJam
003) 176260 0932 044.4 Punisher
004) 164916 0001 000.0 harryjarry
005) 156142 0759 036.1 Armissea
006) 153002 0930 044.3 Toocool100
007) 136740 0004 000.2 Wylo
008) 133311 0232 011.0 ViceFullbuster
009) 117756 0672 032.0 Coop
010) 115479 0000 000.0 courtday
011) 114290 0652 031.0 Ehwaz003
012) 101520 0666 031.7 byteslinger
013) 100017 0000 000.0 ramagi
014) 100014 0000 000.0 Denvish
015) 96470 0064 003.0 Gagsy
016) 96251 0000 000.0 ReconRebel
017) 91338 0104 005.0 FattyWhale
018) 91318 0182 008.7 Auz
019) 88885 0577 027.5 Sentio
020) 84482 0353 016.8 iscrulz
021) 84223 0801 038.1 Pokemonpoeguygcn
022) 82332 0000 000.0 schneelocke
023) 82321 0000 000.0 MPA
024) 81752 0000 000.0 RemRulzz
025) 80294 0000 000.0 Phantom
026) 78145 0606 028.9 DoctorStrongbad (+2)
027) 77777 0000 000.0 Bahamut (-1)
028) 77622 0000 000.0 Rule (-1)
029) 77463 0976 046.5 Idiot-Finder (+2)
030) 76742 0091 004.3 Patcoola (-1)
031) 76539 0954 045.4 MessiaH (+1)
032) 76110 0000 000.0 bila (-2)
033) 73207 0173 008.2 XwaynecoltX
034) 72061 0000 000.0 Nightforce666
035) 70761 0000 000.0 azteca89
036) 70406 0000 000.0 gfoxcook
037) 68716 0085 004.0 BlueHippo (+1)
038) 68672 0073 003.5 DonDoli (+1)
039) 68603 0000 000.0 BonusStage (-2)
040) 68257 0000 000.0 Qwoxyl
041) 66617 0068 003.2 leeboy105
042) 66073 0000 000.0 Rabindarath
043) 65844 0814 038.8 Martin
044) 65330 0626 029.8 Dream-of-Duke (+1)
045) 64441 0602 028.7 georgeproject (+3)
046) 64360 0000 000.0 Newgrundling (-2)
047) 64349 0763 036.3 skatin-andy (+2)
048) 63953 0077 003.7 Voidist (-2)
049) 63449 0000 000.0 ouandyoi (-2)
050) 62151 0001 000.0 Haggard


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051) 62015 0000 000.0 Seamonky
052) 61993 0000 000.0 X-Naut
053) 61380 0000 000.0 Sakurazukamori
054) 60473 0344 016.4 Dakka942 (+1)
055) 60418 0000 000.0 TheDepthsofHell (-1)
056) 59986 0613 029.2 gamejunkie (+1)
057) 59736 0000 000.0 LockClock (-1)
058) 59377 0939 044.7 Cyberdevil (+2)
059) 58852 0496 023.6 RandomFoolishness (+2)
060) 58666 0000 000.0 RalphieUJ (-2)
061) 58115 0000 000.0 Gooch (-2)
062) 58098 0968 046.1 ixfd64 (+4)
063) 57757 0502 023.9 JustCruizin88
064) 57440 0000 000.0 RenegadeGirl (-2)
065) 56882 0020 001.0 Andersson (-1)
066) 56666 0000 000.0 Crolpa (-1)
067) 56132 0000 000.0 Little-Rena
068) 55854 0959 045.7 Pyro-911 (+6)
069) 55777 0000 000.0 M-A-R-C-U-S (-1)
070) 55688 0072 003.4 ScottTowels (-1)
071) 55375 0446 021.2 Cynic8387
072) 55015 0077 003.7 Nijsse (-2)
073) 54632 0000 000.0 pwroftheseagoat (-1)
074) 54294 0000 000.0 LittleMissVixen (-1)
075) 54080 0000 000.0 ElDavid
076) 53197 0000 000.0 pepeatumi
077) 53049 0886 042.2 i-am-ghey (+5)
078) 52404 0000 000.0 ADT (-1)
079) 52129 0000 000.0 EagleRock (-1)
080) 52079 0038 001.8 someone-else (-1)
081) 51957 0000 000.0 Major-punk (-1)
082) 51782 0000 000.0 Now-n-Again (-1)
083) 50782 0000 000.0 Aksumka
084) 50289 0000 000.0 the-puppet
085) 50139 0000 000.0 AshtonNextGen
086) 50054 0000 000.0 shunshuu
087) 49503 0000 000.0 fixit
088) 49333 0000 000.0 Blacklisted User
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090) 47710 0000 000.0 Kolohe (-1)
091) 47345 0940 044.8 ThisAccountIsEpic (+5)
092) 47054 0000 000.0 Overtired (-1)
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097) 46152 0551 026.2 Jolly (+1)
098) 45812 0399 019.0 Exedor (+1)
099) 45758 0008 000.4 Hacsev (-2)
100) 44793 0958 045.6 Metal-Therapy (+5)
101) 44568 0768 036.6 anubite13 (+3)
102) 44503 0000 000.0 PenguinLink (-2)
103) 44387 0009 000.4 ornery (-2)
104) 44073 0028 001.3 reverend (-2)
105) 43927 0000 000.0 Emlfuryoflion (-2)
106) 42578 0047 002.2 Hemlok
107) 42338 0000 000.0 AllReligiousDrunk
108) 42141 0000 000.0 alexsmolik
109) 42109 0000 000.0 Mrputter
110) 41989 0000 000.0 Omgee
111) 41175 0048 002.3 Justin
112) 41158 0893 042.5 sushi13 (+4)
113) 40972 0000 000.0 Minion777 (-1)
114) 40918 0644 030.7 sandwich-eater (+1)
115) 40448 0000 000.0 aldlv (-2)
116) 40404 0000 000.0 pieoncar (-2)
117) 40112 0950 045.2 Blitz-Mage (+4)
118) 39800 0830 039.5 Narcissus (+2)
119) 39384 0000 000.0 Stormwarden (-2)
120) 39205 0740 035.2 Shinichiru (+4)
121) 39148 0069 003.3 tdpl (-2)
122) 39102 0003 000.1 YoinK (-4)
123) 38584 0890 042.4 staphita (+4)
124) 38322 0025 001.2 Spielmeister (-2)
125) 37993 0008 000.4 OneUp (-2)
126) 37905 0031 001.5 LittleWashu (-1)
127) 37880 0363 017.3 ZIGZAG4EVER (+2)
128) 37807 0000 000.0 IM-KOOL-R-U (-2)
129) 37357 0000 000.0 Foxphere (-1)
130) 37072 0000 000.0 Shanus
131) 36989 0000 000.0 D0GMA
132) 36227 0862 041.0 DiMono (+12)
133) 36184 0000 000.0 Mazza (-1)
134) 36182 0126 006.0 Glamdrung (-1)
135) 36035 0042 002.0 iWalker (-1)
136) 35702 0000 000.0 Syme (-1)
137) 35631 0074 003.5 alhill (-1)
138) 35497 0016 000.8 DeathW1ng (-1)
139) 35454 0000 000.0 thisisasignin (-1)
140) 35312 0226 010.8 Cootie (+6)


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Top 90 BP'er; EGSC #153

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141) 35194 0000 000.0 Sir-Nuts (-2)
142) 35186 0000 000.0 Fluffington (-2)
143) 35098 0006 000.3 Odyssic (-2)
144) 34991 0095 004.5 BaronVonBadGuy (-1)
145) 34865 0918 043.7 fellowesart (+16)
146) 34850 0000 000.0 Kronno (-4)
147) 34643 0000 000.0 mentalis (-2)
148) 34572 0000 000.0 Joshiwa (-1)
149) 34490 0000 000.0 Joe (-1)
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151) 34372 0000 000.0 KWAS71KCK (-1)
152) 34271 0000 000.0 Fro (-1)
153) 34237 0044 002.1 Hades (-1)
154) 34137 0041 002.0 Rarebreed
155) 34128 0002 000.1 Sonucais (-2)
156) 33866 0000 000.0 FIGMENTUM (-1)
157) 33654 0917 043.7 TTRM (+15)
158) 33608 0029 001.4 SCTE3 (-2)
159) 33482 0000 000.0 TheSoulMan (-2)
160) 33453 0000 000.0 AtomicTerrorist (-2)
161) 33368 0031 001.5 cobra0528 (-2)
162) 33309 0000 000.0 Major-Blood (-2)
163) 33057 0000 000.0 bmxgamer (-1)
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166) 32716 0000 000.0 Ventar (-2)
167) 32665 0000 000.0 Blacklisted User
168) 32622 0000 000.0 Pikanjo (-2)
169) 32491 0016 000.8 Pieriku (-2)
170) 32405 0088 004.2 bluntedboy (+1)
171) 32400 0000 000.0 Jake (-3)
172) 32286 0006 000.3 NEVR (-2)
173) 32285 0000 000.0 DuMa-RyoHahn (-4)
174) 32117 0000 000.0 Tex2002ans (-1)
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