At 4/7/13 04:16 PM, Bahamut wrote:
This is the end... My only friend, the end...
Sad but understandable... can't say I blame you. I will miss the witty repartee and social commentaries of this fine thread - unless someone else picks up the list. I'll just have to stalk you on the EXP forum....hehehe...
UPDATE 7th April 2013
Days to 100k B/P
Gagsy - 124.23
Commander - Psychopath; Teach
150,000 B/P - Toocool100
100,000 B/P - byteslinger. Congrats!
75,000 B/P - Idiot-Finder
55,000 B/P - ixfd64
45,000 B/P - ThisAccountIsEpic
25,000 B/P - Alkador; la-vitesse; ohbombuh; Teach; VampireTico666
Well done by all...and it was quite serendipitous that I breached the 100K barrier on this last update. Looks like I'll be at #12 (real rank) for a long time...
001) 193794 0961 034.3 AfroUnderscoreStud
002) 176863 0824 029.4 DrJam
003) 174303 1193 042.6 Punisher
004) 164909 0004 000.1 harryjarry
005) 151046 1183 042.3 Toocool100
006) 136724 0006 000.2 Wylo
007) 132340 0500 017.9 ViceFullbuster
008) 116331 0803 028.7 Coop
009) 115479 0000 000.0 courtday
010) 112943 0757 027.0 Ehwaz003
011) 100150 0828 029.6 byteslinger 2
012) 100017 0000 000.0 ramagi -1
013) 100014 0000 000.0 Denvish -1
014) 96251 0000 000.0 ReconRebel
015) 96211 0854 030.5 Gagsy
Looks like Coop is not going anywhere for a while, either...but Gagsy has three idle accounts above her, so all she has to do is keep fighting the good fight and soon she'll be the 13th user to break 100K. You go, girl!
Even if Ehwaz were to stop B/Ping altogether (yeah, right) at 200 pts. per week it would take me 14-15 months to pass him. But since he's active, I'll probably never pass him in my lifetime. That's okay - I think I'm going to focus more on blams - be a bit more critical of everything coming through the portal. I don't need the points, so maybe it's time for a change...
With that, I bid you a final thank you, Bahamut - your efforts, time and conversation has always been appreciated.
At 4/8/13 08:49 AM, DiMono wrote:
At 4/7/13 01:33 PM, Coop wrote:
That is a stupid idea - you know why? Because I am a Blammer and getting zero blams in a day happened 14 times in the past month. I don't want to be penalised for a lack of Blams on my account, because a) Blammable content has not been submitted or b) not enough people have voted to blam as well as me.Oh for sure there would be a period of a week or two where we fair voters (I'm one too) would get penalized. But once the 5-whores figure out that they need blams to get the most out of the portal, they'll start looking for submissions to vote 0 or 1 on, and things will even out. I don't know about you, but I'm willing to give up a couple hundred points for the good of the site.
You would be punishing fair voters like myself and I would view that as a gross miscarriage of justice.
Gentlemen, I think we have all touched upon different partial solutions to this problem, and there may not be a clear-cut answer. The voting system can be programmed to be more intelligent, to look for patterns in voting, to determine who's constantly up-voting regardless of outcome or who's voting on every flash 24/7/365, and to have a set of rules that penalizes those users who don't seem to be playing fair in the long run. But here's the rub: what is the best way to implement these changes?
If it hasn't been done so already (I haven't checked) there should be a thread for "Fix The Voting System" where we can post our ideas and comments on what may help make and keep the voting process fair for all. Some will be good, and others not, but it will be place where PsychoGoldfish, Tom and the rest of the NG Programmers can read through it, get ideas and work out a plan to bring balance back to Newgrounds.
I do know this - if it's not changed soon, this place will become a dump for any trash uploaded. The mods and admins are fighting the fight, but they are people, and they get tired and frustrated over everything that's not working right. Some back off - and some leave altogether. I have seen the ranks of the EGB dwindle, and the NGPD disappear altogether. Yes, users get older, go to university or get jobs and wind up busy IRL - that's normal. But usually, as some leave, new users join and work up the ranks. We're not seeing that anymore - the user pool is becoming stagnant. There are plenty of new users submitting flash and voting - but no one seems to be interested in keeping the balance anymore.
The site layout is nice - but how can we get the word out to all the up-and-coming flash / audio / etc. artists that this is the place to not only upload and showcase your work, but to see what others are doing and help them along with constructive criticism and fair voting?
How does Newgrounds become "NEW" again?
Sorry about the rant - but it's these underlying issues that need to be answered before we all chew each other up in frustration.
As for me - I'm still going to fight the good fight, and help any way I can. It's not an easy job - but it's what I signed up to do!