At 3/29/13 03:09 PM, Jin wrote:
At 3/29/13 12:40 PM, Haggard wrote:
Ever thought about that not all of the top 100 active voters are online at the same time of the day?
At 3/12/13 05:05 PM, Sentio wrote:
"The slow pace of the portal is really suiting me at the moment. I only visit the portal once a day when I've got home from work, but because everything is hanging around UJ I'm hardly missing any submissions."
Also, Bahamut has already blacklisted users whose voting habits are disgraceful, go figure.Blacklisting eh... big whoop.
After reading all of this excrement - er, excitement concerning bad voting habits and such, I decided to look into the fine person who's trolling this thread. It seems that "Jin" has been around since 2006 (about as long as your's truly) , yet he only has 438 blams and 2633 saves. Now, 3 or 4 years ago, blams were certainly easier to get, since the portal ratio on any day was about 30 blams to 70 saves (about 30% - sometimes better). So what has he been doing these past 6 years? Mainly dumping thousands of one-line posts (most of his 3,700+ are as such) in any thread he decides is worth his attention at the moment.
Pretty much, he has done NOTHING to help improve the site - but he has PLENTY to say about it. Let's face it - I am a statwhore - math is fun - but as many of the members here, a large portion of my 0 and 1 votes are absorbed by so many others who upvote just for the protect points. The number of flashes per day has dropped to about 60 or so - and the number of blams hovers between 2 and 6. I still manage to get a blam or two here and there, but I average about 30 saves a day. The savewhores get 45-50 a day. So there IS a difference.
Unless you've really tried to help the situation, maybe you need to lurk more and read some of the prior posts before jumping to conclusions. Talk is cheap - action is what counts.
I can fully understand your disgust about Newgrounds - why keep the list if all it does is fan the flames of savewhores? Maybe you're right. It's a great conversation piece, and it does let us see who's in the ranks and who's climbing or falling. But as much as it may be fun, I (and many others) will support you if you pull the plug on it. I know where I stand, but honestly, this list has no impact on my voting habits. For those who vote fairly, they'll see it the same way. But for the savewhores, well, they'll just have to figure it out on their own.
Maybe we can bug PsychoGoldfish to incorporate some more stat lists directly from the user menus - AND at the same time, allow any user to be OMITTED from the stat lists (keep their info private). But more importantly, maybe he can add some "smart" logic to analyze a user's voting habits (how long are they signed on each day;% of blams and protects gained versus all day maximums; frequency of each vote type; etc) - every user vote gets recorded -and becomes part of the analysis process. The the obvious "ALL PROTECTS" or always-on voting bots (yes, we've seen them before) can be detected and neutralized. It's a perfect setup for data mining.
Anyway, to end my rant, I am all for anything that can help stabilize Newgrounds and keep it running fair - and if that means keeping the savewhores in the dark, then so be it. I won't give up voting fairly, and neither should anyone else. If we do, then we'll let Newgrounds fall to 0 blams per day, and become just a crappy ghetto dump that's as bad as youtube. I'm not going down without a fight!