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At 1/28/09 04:17 PM, Patcoola wrote:

At 1/28/09 12:42 PM, Haggard wrote: If it is a bot, then the programmer just programmed something like: "If entry is new, vote 5".

even if he was a bot he wouldn't have such as high success rate.
reading the html and testing for elements that would logically assume that it would be a pass/balm still has a wide margin of error.

I think you misunderstood, the high success rate is ONLY for saves. There is no analysis of HTML or attempt to judge the quality of the submission. The bot merely votes 5 on everything and never votes 0.

At 1/28/09 08:20 PM, zimzap wrote: I think you misunderstood, the high success rate is ONLY for saves. There is no analysis of HTML or attempt to judge the quality of the submission. The bot merely votes 5 on everything and never votes 0.

well now that you mention it, icean does have only 24 blams which would suggest that.

At 1/28/09 08:38 PM, Patcoola wrote:

At 1/28/09 08:20 PM, zimzap wrote: I think you misunderstood, the high success rate is ONLY for saves. There is no analysis of HTML or attempt to judge the quality of the submission. The bot merely votes 5 on everything and never votes 0.

well now that you mention it, icean does have only 24 blams which would suggest that.

Yes, I think it is a "vote 5" program that is being run on the account. I would be willing to bet that if you added up all the flashes that passed in the last week, and then looked at Icean's increase in saves, it would the same number. It is a program running 24-7, and somehow submitting a "5" click on every flash that hits the portal.

I've had my busy days where I did quite a bit - Casualty's Portal Guard is a great little tool. But I do sleep once in a while, and I can't keep up with that vote-bot pace.

Although I think that voting 5 on everything blindly via a program defeats the purpose of the review process, I am curious as to exactly how the vote-bot works - and who wrote it. More importantly, what if we see more accounts running the same program later, if Icean shares it with his cohorts?

I wonder if we could ask Wade or Tom for a new feature in the next generation of NewGrounds - call it "V-Bot (V = Validate)". It would scan through all the accounts, and check for activity outside of simple voting, such as reviews, submissions, forum responses, etc. If it found an account that had no activity (besides voting) for say 30 days, it would PM the user for verification and response. If the user did not respond in a week, the account would go "inactive" and require an e-mail from the owner to Wade or Tom to request that it be reinstated. It would be considered an "abandoned" account. Also, it would nudge people to be more involved - join a forum or review a flash or do something to help the community a bit. Whoever is running the vote bot would have to do more than just vote - or else the account shuts down. Just an idea - but no matter what, regardless of how far Icean goes, it will always be with an "asterisk" - it really doesn't count...

At 1/28/09 09:24 PM, byteslinger wrote: I wonder if we could ask Wade or Tom for a new feature in the next generation of NewGrounds - call it "V-Bot (V = Validate)".

If it found an account that had no activity (besides voting) for say 30 days, it would PM the user for verification and response. If the user did not respond in a week, the account would go "inactive" and require an e-mail from the owner to Wade or Tom to request that it be reinstated.

If someone went to all of the trouble to create a bot to vote five on submissions, I would suspect that they would log in at least once per month.

The only real solution is to go back to the system that was in place in the past, users were "flagged" for always voting five or zero on submissions and the appropriate actions were taken because they were clearly not voting on the merits of the submissions. This was in place a real long time ago.

At 1/28/09 09:24 PM, byteslinger wrote:

At 1/28/09 08:38 PM, Patcoola wrote: well now that you mention it, icean does have only 24 blams which would suggest that.

Yes, I think it is a "vote 5" program that is being run on the account. I would be willing to bet that if you added up all the flashes that passed in the last week, and then looked at Icean's increase in saves, it would the same number.

That is the case as you can see in my post above. He did catch every save available from 11 days ago until now.

I wonder if we could ask Wade or Tom for a new feature in the next generation of NewGrounds - call it "V-Bot (V = Validate)".

Not a bad idea, but I think it might start to piss people off after a while. There are loads of people like Pimp who do nothing but depositing their experience every day. I know validating once a month wouldn´t take that much effort, but there are also people who leave NG for a while or go on a holiday and have someone else deposit their exp. They can´t even deposit anymore unless they create a new emailadress and all that stuff. In the end, I think it´s gonna lead to lots of complaints and the admins will keep getting bothered with people asking to unlock their accounts. So perhaps not the best solution.

By the way, I thought bots usually got intercepted by the admins. I know they used to update older stat lists, like the old reviewers list, using bots. But the admins asked to take them down because they screwed up the site or something, or so I´ve heard. So if icean really uses a bot, I think they´re gonna notice sooner or later.

At 1/28/09 10:24 AM, Auz wrote: My guess is still that the account is held by multiple persons, and at least more than 2 because it would still be impossible to get 100% of the saves every week with only 2 guys. It must be a whole group of people who all have nothing better to do than voting 5 on everything that comes through the portal.

Great research on the subject but I might have to disagree with the multiple persons monitoring the account theory. It has to be a bot given your evidence to suggest it is. Why they've got this bot and aren't using other aspects of newgrounds is odd, I mean why wouldn't they come in here to gloat about their 'awesome' stats?
Hm. I'm just surprised some of the more experienced programmers on here haven't tried to create some sort of bot.
I came across this when I did a little research of my own.
Interesting, no?
Even though its on the old system someone could have gotten it and adjusted it.

Great research on the subject but I might have to disagree with the multiple persons monitoring the account theory. It has to be a bot given your evidence to suggest it is. Why they've got this bot and aren't using other aspects of newgrounds is odd, I mean why wouldn't they come in here to gloat about their 'awesome' stats?
Hm. I'm just surprised some of the more experienced programmers on here haven't tried to create some sort of bot.
I came across this when I did a little research of my own.
Interesting, no?
Even though its on the old system someone could have gotten it and adjusted it.

True, it could have been modified. I'm not sure why someone would just do that for the numbers - but then again, you can't always tell what goes through the mind of a kid with too much time on their hands. As for one of the programmers here building another vote-bot - well, in theory, maybe they could, but that just takes all the fun out of being here. I think that anyone who is smart enough to figure out a new vote bot is also mature enough not to do it - it's a matter of "not cheating".

Besides, it's much more satisfying clicking that "0" button yourself when you just wasted a minute of your life on a piece of trash - or upvoting an excellent flash that really deserves front page. It's the satisfaction of knowing you did the right thing.

I know nothing about programming but I cannot imagine that this would be hard. The bot would merely be programmed to visit "http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/4 80XXX etc. and submit the five vote which I am sure is just another URL that could be found rather easily be looking at the source code.

At 1/29/09 11:07 AM, zimzap wrote: I know nothing about programming but I cannot imagine that this would be hard. The bot would merely be programmed to visit "http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/4 80XXX etc. and submit the five vote which I am sure is just another URL that could be found rather easily be looking at the source code.

Okay, you made me curious. I just looked at the source code for the flash page, and for the URL on the vote buttons. I was expecting a simple button or link that could be triggered. Not so. Seems that there is a series of Java-script modules and some runtime encoding that randomly change the IDs and references - and the actual voting depends on calling the Javascript module with the right parameters. Every time a new flash is set up, these parameters are different. I managed to hand-trace how it works - it's very dependent on Java runtime, and not HTML.

Looks like the designers at Newgrounds went to great lengths to make that voting system "anti-bot". It will take more than simple "scan html and find a button" logic here. Now I'm really curious - just how did they pull this vote-bot off? Or are they going about it a different way?

At 1/29/09 12:16 PM, byteslinger wrote: Looks like the designers at Newgrounds went to great lengths to make that voting system "anti-bot". It will take more than simple "scan html and find a button" logic here. Now I'm really curious - just how did they pull this vote-bot off? Or are they going about it a different way?

Maybe the bot just litereally visits the site by opening the page in a browser, then looks for the voting bar (which is always located underneath the text "Click an icon to vote on this!") and just clicks on the 5th element from the left. Which is the "Vote 5" button.

I mean, it's possible to program bots for video games like diablo, so programming a bot to vote on a website shouldn't be harder than that.

I'll have to wait until the news media dies down, can't believe they would make a big deal over a gambling win. I have to sneak to the hospital to give one of the girls a senzu bean I found, I gave it to Tsukasa since she's in even worse shape, I'll try to find that martial art expert with supernatural powers to save the other one.

At 1/29/09 12:16 PM, byteslinger wrote:

At 1/29/09 11:07 AM, zimzap wrote: I know nothing about programming but I cannot imagine that this would be hard. The bot would merely be programmed to visit "http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/4 80XXX" etc. and submit the five vote which I am sure is just another URL that could be found rather easily be looking at the source code.

Complicated Java stuff - zimzap edit

Maybe the bot just litereally visits the site by opening the page in a browser, then looks for the voting bar (which is always located underneath the text "Click an icon to vote on this!") and just clicks on the 5th element from the left. Which is the "Vote 5" button.

Looks like the designers at Newgrounds went to great lengths to make that voting system "anti-bot". It will take more than simple "scan html and find a button" logic here. Now I'm really curious - just how did they pull this vote-bot off? Or are they going about it a different way?

Since the actual html/java is complex, your idea does make sense. Load the "http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/4 80XXX", wait X number of seconds (whatever the amount for a 15MB submission max would be, maybe 30 seconds) and then click in a preset area (for example, the X,Y coordinate of 150, 750, or whatever is necessary for the vote 5 button.)

So any programmers out there, possible? I now for a fact that you could set an auto clicker to click every X number of seconds so I think we are learning that this is more and more plausible.

At what point do we plan on approaching a mod about this, if ever?

At 1/29/09 02:28 PM, zimzap wrote: At what point do we plan on approaching a mod about this, if ever?

I have already taken care of it, the account is locked and if he has a really good explanation he'll have to whip it out to Wade.

You don't have to worry anymore.

At 1/29/09 03:22 PM, AllReligiousDrunk wrote:

At 1/29/09 02:28 PM, zimzap wrote: At what point do we plan on approaching a mod about this, if ever?

I have already taken care of it, the account is locked and if he has a really good explanation he'll have to whip it out to Wade.

I'd love to see that conversation.
'I did it for the lulz'.

You don't have to worry anymore.

End of discussion really then. That's a shame.

At 1/29/09 03:22 PM, AllReligiousDrunk wrote:

At 1/29/09 02:28 PM, zimzap wrote: At what point do we plan on approaching a mod about this, if ever?

I have already taken care of it, the account is locked and if he has a really good explanation he'll have to whip it out to Wade.

You don't have to worry anymore.

Thank you, AllReligiousDrunk. It will be interesting to see if anyone owns up to the account or not.
But I'd still like to know (just for lulz) how it was done...

At 1/29/09 08:13 AM, Aci6 wrote: I came across this when I did a little research of my own.
Interesting, no?

That´s indeed very suspicious. That after 4 years of no posts, some guy suddenly shows up saying "that was the program I was looking for". And a little over a month later someone suddenly joins this list catching 100% of the saves every week.

I am starting to think that the bot theory is more likely as well now... =/

At 1/29/09 03:22 PM, AllReligiousDrunk wrote:

At 1/29/09 02:28 PM, zimzap wrote: At what point do we plan on approaching a mod about this, if ever?

I have already taken care of it, the account is locked and if he has a really good explanation he'll have to whip it out to Wade.

I´m curious about what he has to say for himself.

You don't have to worry anymore.

Okay, thanks for taking your time.

can you help me level really fast

well i dont know any i would like to but i need to know how to level super fast plz post me one

At 1/29/09 09:03 PM, speedeysean wrote: can you help me level really fast

Just vote five flash quicker, but overall it's only once per day

Sorry, just try not to use voting drugs

I've been trying to bust the guys selling these stuff for nearly a year now.

At 1/25/09 03:54 PM, Bahamut wrote: UPDATE 25th January 2009

w00t

75+ per day BPers
byteslinger 098.9
AfroUnderscoreStud 090.3
Patcoola 082.1
Punisher 075.0

nice job, guys

032) 57572 0346 049.4 iscrulz
033) 57460 0377 053.9 TheDepthsofHell

ohhhh. you're slacking big time this week iscrulz. i passed you early in the week and gained some nice ground while you were away from b/ping. you're lookin' at my back again...catch up! i like this rivarly. always close. well, lately...i did have to catch up 3k points...haha.

~Thanks for the update =P

At 1/29/09 03:22 PM, AllReligiousDrunk wrote:

At 1/29/09 02:28 PM, zimzap wrote: At what point do we plan on approaching a mod about this, if ever?

I have already taken care of it, the account is locked and if he has a really good explanation he'll have to whip it out to Wade.

You don't have to worry anymore.

Thank you very much. That would be one quite interesting conversation if it were to ever occur.

Now at least, I'll be able to overtake him and regain the place that was taken due to his obscenely fast protecting; there's no point calling it b/ping for someone who never blams, is there? Personally, I doubt that we're going to see too much of him again given the fact that it's going to be nigh on impossible to justify that. I don't know, though, had I been in his shoes, I'd have done something to program in a limit for the number of points that he got per day. After all, had he been intelligent enough to program in a limit of 50 a day, that would have been easily enough to make some very respectable pace within the ranks, while not attracting suspicion by getting nearly every save possible. Likewise, programming in some way to vary the vote cast to get blams would have been a good idea - if it's below X kb, vote 0, if it's above X kb, vote 5. Granted, I'm no programmer, and this is pure conjecture on my part, but that's what I'd think to be a better way to run a bot like that.

I forgot! I'll be on my way to Frau Bow's house

She and the other girls could be in trouble.

What a day yesterday, I saw a huge blue earless cat in the alley sleeping

There I reach into his pouch and pull out a mini-propeller with a suction cap, I put it onto my head and began to fly

I flew to Frau's house and saw it attacked by bunch of goons, because I drank a energy drink earlier...I kind of gotten hyper

I took off the propeller and fell on one of the goons, after that I took his gun and began to fire away missing every shot but they eventually fled...most of them anyway

I ran into the house and grabs two plungers, tied them together to create nunchukus and then I recklessly popped out of the door owning every thugs in sight, they would then try to escape through yacht until I fired an energy blast at the boat and blew them up. Konata came impressed and said "Good job!" as I came down with energy crash. It was crazy and suddenly someone came up behind us and heard a gun cocking when few shots was heard, I turned around and saw the thug fell to the ground.

Dragon came just in time with NEVR, glad they did or otherwise we'd be in trouble

Frau Bow and Miyuki are okay as well

Still haven't find someone with a supernatural power to save Kagami yet, but right now I'm ready to watch Super Bowl, good thing Frau Bow's television have access to that channel

NEVR said that he's going to stay for a bit to watch the game as well

At 1/25/09 04:31 PM, Sir-Nuts wrote:

At 1/25/09 03:54 PM, Bahamut wrote: It'll happen eventually. After all, we almost have over 1,000 accounts with over 10,000 EXP. I'm pretty sure it would be just 900 if it weren't for the alts. XP

Like that LevelOneAccount... RIGHT, BAHAMUT? =P

Ask Afro_Stud regarding that alt.

Yeah, I know that. You are right, u r rihgt... I get it.

Why would someone do that anyway?

Desperate attempt to look "dandy". =P

Doesn't look dandy to me. :P

That's 0.01& of General? Oh wow...

Pretty much, yeah.

Even when you posted there?

Yep, I'm part of that 0.01%.

Oooooooh Yeeeeeeah!

I know that song from Gran Turismo 4. Everytime you fail a driving licence test...

OOOOOUUUUUUUHHHHH YYYYYEEEAAAAAHHHH!!!!

I don't know why they're celebrating though

Because they get to play their song. XD

At 1/25/09 04:48 PM, Haggard wrote:

At 1/25/09 03:54 PM, Bahamut wrote: Oooooooh Yeeeeeeah!

Awesome intro. Ohhhhhhhyeaaaah!

The moon....beautiful.

At 1/25/09 11:39 PM, zimzap wrote:

At 1/25/09 03:54 PM, Bahamut wrote: You don't need college to get a good job.

It seems like no one can get a good job now with the recession.

I actually forgot to mention the recession, but yes, it's even harder to get a good job now. :( If there were no problems, however, I could get a good job.

At 1/26/09 04:07 PM, darknessdweller wrote:

At 1/25/09 03:54 PM, Bahamut wrote: We've questioned the account before and I doubt we'll get an answer anytime soon.

Yeah, there's this great thing called NG PMS. You should try it sometime. :P

Although the bot is now defunct, I highly doubted we'd receive an answer from whoever icean was.

It'll happen eventually. After all, we almost have over 1,000 accounts

If this was in Japan, you'd be saying a meme right there. (it's 1000 in Japan)

Ugh, another "IT'S OVER 9000!!!" reference.

with over 10,000 EXP. I'm pretty sure it would be just 900 if it weren't for the alts. XP

Nah, there's liek, 4 - 8 alts with taht amount of exp. 1000 - 900 = 100.
100 =/= 4 or 8

Unlike you, I know all of Afro's alts and most of them ARE over 10k EXP!

So, how's the wife?

MY WIFE?!?!

At 1/27/09 08:18 PM, Idiot-Finder wrote: Dragon tried to find the bomb but he have to leave because the hospital staff threatened to call security after he went to check at the ladies' restroom.

Shame on that dragon for checking the ladies'. O_O
_____

Thanks to Wade, the icean bot has been shut down. I'd like to say that all your speculations on icean were very interesting to read, although regarding that forum, icean must have started well before November, so that guy who posted in the old thread must be someone else.

In other news, the latest EXP update is now up.

As for this update, gfox will be proud to know that this is my 36th B/P update. Also, I went up a rank and it's most likely the very last time I'll go up a rank in B/P.

UPDATE 1st February 2009

75+ per day BPers

Gagsy 107.4
byteslinger 096.9
lilhunter03 086.1
AfroUnderscoreStud 083.9
courtday 078.3
harryjarry 076.7

10+ rank climbers

None.

New Supreme Commanders

No new EGSCs this week.

Star-pacers

None.

Joiners/leavers
Joining
Deadchick: Up from #304 to #298 - Weekly gain: 471 - Daily pace: 067.3
Norbert-Beaver: Vagrant found
Leaving
Preternatural: Down from #299 to #301 - Weekly gain: 044 - Daily pace: 06.3
absent: Down from #300 to #303 - Weekly gain: 000 - Daily pace: 00.0

The LIST
50+ per day BPers are bolded, 4+ rank climbers are italicised, 1000+ weekly BP is underlined.

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At 2/1/09 03:57 PM, Bahamut wrote: Thanks to Wade, the icean bot has been shut down. I'd like to say that all your speculations on icean were very interesting to read, although regarding that forum, icean must have started well before November, so that guy who posted in the old thread must be someone else.

I don´t know. He would´ve started using the bot in november and he would´ve only needed approximatly 7,000~8,000 BP´s then to have him enter around christmas. So it is still possible that it was icean, or maybe icean got it via the guy who posted there.

UPDATE 1st February 2009

Thanks for the great update Bahamut.

At 2/1/09 03:59 PM, Bahamut wrote: 063) 45505 0026 003.7 Kolohe
064) 44833 0336 048.0 Auz
065) 43431 0349 049.9 Idiot-Finder

My pace was pretty good again. Idiot-Finder didn´t gain much on me. Gotta go back to university next week and my schedule is pretty bad, so Idiot-Finder might pass me before I pass Kolohe depending on how much free time he has.

At 2/1/09 03:57 PM, Bahamut wrote: 041) 53157 0022 003.1 Voidist
042) 52622 0370 052.9 Coop83 1
043) 52471 0292 041.7 Sentio 1

Thanks for the update, Bahamut. Nice work with this 36th update :)

It's going to take me a few more updates before I can pass Voidist.

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059) 46268 0000 000.0 yaya12
221) 19636 0387 055.3 icean 4

Looks like the debris from broken machines will be here for a while to stand testament to our own skills. Isn't it time for a cleanout, Tom?