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Forum Topic: Rage's gift to you: Abusive reviews

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Posted at: 3/31/08 04:47 PM

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http://okamizaku.newgrounds.com/reviews/
flash/1
check out all pages also check is one audio review.

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Posted at: 3/31/08 05:01 PM

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At 3/31/08 04:00 PM, fluiddruid wrote: I know, it can be rough, but if you've been doing this for months, you're getting a lot of negs. A lot of advice in this thread tends to be overzealous. Go for the clear stuff - there are tons of really awful reviews. I usually steer clear of flagging unhelpful reviews, just the really obnoxious or moronic ones, because I can't see feedback from the mods and thus can't learn the line real well. Still, I caught myself cheerily reporting a page full of old reviews from 2005. It happens.

Actually, you've got the line perfectly

unhelpful reviews aren't abusive, they're just unhelpful. That's why we have the "unhelpful" button instead of just a "helpful" or "Abusive".

Go for the painfully obvious ones. I don't like thinking, and usually when I have to think I always ask myself something that Tom has said at one time or another about review moderating. "how nice do we really want to force everyone to be?"

The guidelines aren't "Rules" they are simply a general outline of how to best present an author with some advice on getting better.

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Noodleboy111

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Posted at: 3/31/08 05:02 PM

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Hey, I know this isn't exactly a review, but since you guys are the ones with the good whistles, I think you might want to blow them on this one.

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/43 2854

First off the author's site points you into a site different than his own (and in a different language) and searching on Google easily finds you evidence that this is over a year old.

Most of his other crap is probably stolen too.

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Posted at: 3/31/08 05:26 PM

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Whistle this flash:

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/43 2862

Promotion for "get a free XBox" spam website.


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Posted at: 3/31/08 05:37 PM

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At 3/31/08 04:00 PM, fluiddruid wrote: I know, it can be rough, but if you've been doing this for months, you're getting a lot of negs. A lot of advice in this thread tends to be overzealous. Go for the clear stuff - there are tons of really awful reviews. I usually steer clear of flagging unhelpful reviews, just the really obnoxious or moronic ones, because I can't see feedback from the mods and thus can't learn the line real well. Still, I caught myself cheerily reporting a page full of old reviews from 2005. It happens.

Thanks, My problem is whenever somebody submits a link I automatically assume their clear about the review guidelines and worry that if I don't flag it, it'll get deleted and I'll lose my chance!
I just get a wierd feeling in the back of my head that soon there will be no more abusive reviews left and we'll be stuck with whatever we've got!

Isn't their anyway to waiver this new reviews only rule?

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phantomlassuk

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Posted at: 3/31/08 05:54 PM

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At 3/31/08 05:26 PM, fluiddruid wrote: Whistle this flash:

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/43 2862

Promotion for "get a free XBox" spam website.

Is that against the rules? its seems ok to me i just check the faqs again.

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Malachy

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Posted at: 3/31/08 05:56 PM

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At 3/31/08 05:37 PM, AshtonNextGen wrote: Thanks, My problem is whenever somebody submits a link I automatically assume their clear about the review guidelines and worry that if I don't flag it, it'll get deleted and I'll lose my chance!
I just get a wierd feeling in the back of my head that soon there will be no more abusive reviews left and we'll be stuck with whatever we've got!

see, you are looking at this from a totally selfish point of view. We have the flag system to help stop abuse from happening. I can't do anything about a user making abusive reviews if I don't find out about it until a year later. If you guys flag new stuff from today and there's obviously a user who is making abusive reviews, I can ban him and hopefully he'll catch the drift and not do it again. If I don't see it for a year, he'll just keep spewing the abuse for the whole year and think nothing of it because it hadn't been deleted yet and he hadn't been banned yet.

The whole system is to help NG out, not get you some sparkly gold whistle to stroke your e-penis with. That's why nobody (except for maybe liljim) knows how the sytem works. It was curved for a while, then it was stagnant and god knows how it works now. I don't even know how much power a certain whistle level gives you, I'm as in the dark as everyone else, and it's the same for the rest of the review moderators and probably everyone but whoever created the system.

Isn't their anyway to waiver this new reviews only rule?

I think you guys are taking this a bit out of proportion. I feel that somebody must have taken something out of context.

You aren't penalized for flagging old reviews, but at the same time you won't get any points out of it either. We are simply asking you to ignore them.

The main reason for this is what I stated above; we want to keep abuse from happening. What's the point of me deleting all of the reviews from a user who hasn't even been to the site in 5 or 6 years? I can't ban him, and maybe he started making good reviews after a while anyway...so just magically one day his inbox is flooded by M-bot because of something he did YEARS ago. If you think about it, generally people don't spend much more than a few months on the site before they move on to someplace else.

Also, the review guidelines haven't been around the entire time. So back in 2001-2003 there wasn't even an idea of "abusive" with the reviews. Think of it sort of how youtube comments are like now (or maybe a year ago, I never go there). You can basically say whatever you want and there aren't any rules for what you can say. That's what the reviews were like back then. So since there wasn't a set outline of what is acceptable, we aren't really in the moral highground to justify deleting something from back then.

I consider this matter closed. It's very simple: pay attention to the dates, don't bother with the old ones because it wont help or hurt you in any way, except get another review mod in this topic trying to tell you the same thing I and others have posted in here plenty of times. So, if you continue to bitch about it, it'll be considered off topic and a BBS mod may need to step in. This topic was locked once a month or so ago, if you all remember and it's because people were cheating the system and generally being more worried about what picture of a whistle they had in their userpage than how many morons they helped stop from abusing the system.

man, that looks like a rant. It's not, but you guys seem to ignore everything the review mods have said and always demand more info. there's all the info you need.

In short: no, we won't rethink it. it's that way for the above mentioned reasons. Stop complaining, you've got snot running down your shirt.

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AznWarlord

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Posted at: 3/31/08 06:09 PM

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So pretty much in short, hit the newer flashes like Turd, something [KK], or those
[Insert Name Here]: Verb[ing] them all in [X amount] of days

Hell yeah, Telecaster with Bigsby.

If you are reading this, then I guess it means that my post count +1.

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AshtonNextGen

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Posted at: 3/31/08 06:16 PM

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Ok I'll stop...
But as for the whistle status I seem to remember when I dropped from gold to garbage from those binary reviews my voting power went down from 10.56% to 10.06%
SO Im guessing a gold whistle is equvilant to 0.50% voting power?
Maybe that means silver is 0.25% and delity is 0.75% I don't know, I'm sure this woman knows though, I'll make an appointment first thing in the morning!

Rage's gift to you: Abusive reviews

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Posted at: 3/31/08 07:11 PM

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http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/43 2881 I don't know if it should be flagged or not, makes fun of mentally disabled people(retards) and makes fun of terrorism in a....well, half-assed isn't even close, way. Please tell me weather I should blow the whistle or not.


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Posted at: 3/31/08 07:14 PM

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i wanna get my whistle up to at least normal, but i dont want to flag because im paranoid that it might go from garbage to broken

.......wait....what the hell!!???

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Posted at: 3/31/08 07:16 PM

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You guys are wasting your time. The whistle tricks you into doing the right thing, then screws you over in the end. Theres no point of doing this. Most of the users that blow whistles end up with garbage. Theres a bunch of people that end up with garbage.

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Posted at: 3/31/08 07:17 PM

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Slug2222 has illegitimate reason for giving 0

I mean, the cartoon's not even offensive to Canadians anyway, and I'm Canadian. He also swears in his review.

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Malachy

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Posted at: 3/31/08 07:32 PM

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At 3/31/08 07:16 PM, TheGreatPatten wrote: You guys are wasting your time. The whistle tricks you into doing the right thing, then screws you over in the end. Theres no point of doing this. Most of the users that blow whistles end up with garbage. Theres a bunch of people that end up with garbage.

I like your copy+paste from that other topic. Very original.

Mayhap you should stop flagging things which aren't abusive?

At 3/31/08 07:14 PM, darkshadou wrote: i wanna get my whistle up to at least normal, but i dont want to flag because im paranoid that it might go from garbage to broken

it's simple, just flag things which are obviously abusive. if it doesn't jump out to you, then don't flag it.

At 3/31/08 06:16 PM, AshtonNextGen wrote: Ok I'll stop...
But as for the whistle status I seem to remember when I dropped from gold to garbage from those binary reviews my voting power went down from 10.56% to 10.06%

I don't understand where you get voting power from whistle status.

they don't have anything to do with voting power...and I can't imagine how you could possibly lose voting power.

And seriously, stop posting irrelevant pictures. It doesn't count if you mention the picture in your post either.

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http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/43 2880 Does linking to crappily editted Youtube shit count as flaggable. The movie isn't stolen (the YT author is TBoanz3000 too, I checked), but...

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Posted at: 3/31/08 08:42 PM

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Errm, well in my profile a random hater spammed me, can he be punished? (i know i can remove the message but thats just weak)

http://kokojo.newgrounds.com/

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At 3/31/08 08:42 PM, Kokojo wrote: Errm, well in my profile a random hater spammed me, can he be punished? (i know i can remove the message but thats just weak)

http://kokojo.newgrounds.com/

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Thats not an abusive review.

Someone posting on your flash or audio thats breaking one of the posting rules is considered an abusive review.


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http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/reviews /286452
Only on the first page.
http://thefrststand.newgrounds.com/revie ws/
Some on both pages.
http://deathreaper12.newgrounds.com/revi ews/flash
Some abuse on this page.
http://retrokid23.newgrounds.com/reviews /flash
Abuse on pages 1 and 3.

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At 3/31/08 08:42 PM, Kokojo wrote: Errm, well in my profile a random hater spammed me, can he be punished? (i know i can remove the message but thats just weak)

http://kokojo.newgrounds.com/

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yes, you can ban him from your userpage. That's the point of the ban option under his comments. you can also ad him to your userpage ban/block list.

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two here by drakemaster1 and dennis-le

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One very abusive one

you cant miss it its the only 0 he has


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Whoops, the link is http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/43 2934. Sorry for the double post.


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At 4/1/08 01:02 AM, The-Red-Jack wrote: tankmen 1.5

Thats not really abusive just useless.

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At 4/1/08 01:04 AM, pigeonmaster88 wrote: What's wrong with this dude?

another one by the same guy here

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