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good job, I like new features added to newgrounds, I wonder how many whistle levels there are though?

Yeah i went into my profile to see how much blam/protect points i had and i saw the whistle i was think WTF. so i came here and noticed this. this is gonna make a dramatic change on ng. ppl will be trying to do this so much. im not sure i really agree with it. if ppl really want ng to be a good place they would have been blowing the whistle in the first place. but i guese its ok. it will make ng less spamable. well i guese thats all i have to say.

Heheheh. Nice addition to Newgrounds I say.

At first, I thought it was something related to flash submissions.

Well, thanks for clearing it up.

At 6/19/03 08:00 PM, TheJoe324 wrote:

Yeah, That has happened a lot before, I'd see something that is stolen, KNOW its stolen, have a link to where they stole it from, tell other people to blow the whistle after giving them the link, and not enough people do so it gets past judgement.

Ummm....if *you* know it's stolen and know the link to
the site it was stolen from, why don't *you* blow the
whistle? It only takes one flag on the movie to have
the administrators review it. Or so i'm told.

At 6/19/03 08:05 PM, Recon_Rebel wrote: Great idea Tom! I like it when you guys add new things. Hey, who out there has a high level in this new stat? I've seen garbage whistles and normal whistles but not anything higher. Also, how many different levels are there?

Check out:

http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic.php?id=74099

That thread is a discussion of everyone's whistle levels, and many users have bronze whistles currently. Only two that we know of have silver, and so far no saints (can't remember if there's any golds yet).

There's 6 levels:

minus (0, I guess) = GARBAGE (broken green whistle)
1 = NORMAL (red whistle)
2 = BRONZE (bronze whistle)
3 = SILVER (silver whistle)
4 = GOLD (gold whistle)
5 = SAINT (gold whistle with a halo)

I have a sliver whistle. I blew it on quite a few movies. I wonder if your whistle goes up if you flag reviews that are abusive?

bout time, but i have blown the whistle, ON many many movies, o well

Tom, you've just made another great feature !!! Thanks for telling us how whistle level works man !!!

At 6/19/03 08:52 PM, Newgrundling wrote: - but how is a "helpful" review established?

My guess is that a "helpful" review makes suggestions
as to how to make a better movie- things to do
differently- and that it would not have any
ad hominem attacks in it.

Does this sound reasonable?

Hey all i wold like to say is newgorunds rocks and i really liek what u do for this site and for every body on here making it possible

At 6/19/03 09:07 PM, RyoHahn wrote: I have a sliver whistle. I blew it on quite a few movies. I wonder if your whistle goes up if you flag reviews that are abusive?

"Similarly, if you read an abusive review and mark it as such, you will be awarded for that as well." - Tom Fulp

didn't you read Tom's post? #;-}>

At 6/19/03 09:01 PM, mortalcoil wrote: Ummm....if *you* know it's stolen and know the link to
the site it was stolen from, why don't *you* blow the
whistle? It only takes one flag on the movie to have
the administrators review it. Or so i'm told.

He DID whistle it. Blowing the whistle (if you're the first person) only brings up a message saying the admins will review the submission.

But they don't necessarily review it right away. Hell, they might not even be online.

After just one whistle, the movie is still on the portal, and it's still viewable and you can vote on it and etc. etc. As though it hadn't been whistled, IOW.

It takes more than one user blowing the whistle to IMMEDIATELY take down the movie (so that a page that says the movie has been removed pops up instead of the movie info).

That is what Joe is complaining about. Quite often, one whistle may happen on a movie, but the movie is still there, no one else whistles it, and it gets protected.

In a way, this is in place so that one idiot whistle-blower cannot take a movie offline, or else one stupid idiot could blow the whistle on every single under judgement movie on the portal with impunity (well, until he gets his account deleted).

At 6/19/03 09:09 PM, mortalcoil wrote:

At 6/19/03 08:52 PM, Newgrundling wrote: - but how is a "helpful" review established?

My guess is that a "helpful" review makes suggestions
as to how to make a better movie- things to do
differently- and that it would not have any
ad hominem attacks in it.

Does this sound reasonable?

Newgrundling knows what a helpful review is. He was asking how helpful review votes factor into this whistle level.

My guess is they don't.

At 6/19/03 09:12 PM, gfoxcook wrote: "Similarly, if you read an abusive review and mark it as such, you will be awarded for that as well." - Tom Fulp

didn't you read Tom's post? #;-}>

Hmmm, I guess I missed that part. well I just flagged about 20 reviews. I still want to know if tom or wade contacted outar and told them to tell their spammers to stop spamming NG

At 6/19/03 09:19 PM, Toocool100 wrote:

At 6/19/03 09:12 PM, gfoxcook wrote: "Similarly, if you read an abusive review and mark it as such, you will be awarded for that as well." - Tom Fulp

didn't you read Tom's post? #;-}>

exacly what is an abusive review.. i saw some pretty bad ones.. i need some guide lines here. what can i classify as a abusive review and what cant i. i dont wanna go down for something i think is abusive but actully isn't

First off, the rash of reviews that were made for the purpose of getting people to stupidly click on outwar/pornstarguru/etc. links and other similar spamming-encouraging site-related links.... those are abusive, flag them ASAP.

Anything that insults the author of the flash instead of commenting ON his flash, that involves excessive cursing, calling him a fag, racial slurs, things like that.... flag it abusive.

Now, I'm not as sure on this last type of abusive reviews as I am (positive) about the two types above. But it's possible that some things from the BBS rules apply to reviews as well, such as ALL CAPS REVIEWS and spammy reviews (even if they don't have links to outwar or whatever) and things like that.

I personally don't mark those as abusive, just "not helpful." But others, like Joe, do. :::shrugs:::

Just mark outwar-type stuff and hateful, curse-filled, racist, homophobic trash, till you hear otherwise about the other stuff.

Great addition. Hopefully this will encourage more users to flag the naughty movies/reviews.

One question:
How many flags are required to gain a level? Such as in grounds gold experience, with the 50 intervals up until level nine, increasing after nine, and so forth.

Whistle Power rules thank you Tom can't wait for the console version of AH will you also be making a version for the Gamecube?

Good shit...Its whistle blowin time

That is a great idea, I hate it when people post bad reviews...

Ryan

Similarly, if you read an abusive review and mark it as such, you will be awarded for that as well.

Chaos will certainly now insue...Do you really think the NG community can handle this? Remmeber when blammers voted constant 0s.?? Good luck with your alien hominid console game.

hmmm I think the idea is great. With all the outspammers and stuff it should be easy to get higher whistles.

Also Good luck on AH

What about when people have blown the whistle before this is active? I blew the whistle a few times a while ago.

Tom, this is a very good idea. Not only does this GREATLY help the abuse problems on NG, and encourage the users to be more involved with monitoring abuse, but it makes the site much more interactive.

I have one suggestion, if whistle levels were added to the Users listings, it would be completed. However, if there aren't a wide enough range of levels for it, then perhaps not. Just a thought, though.

i look into the future and see people uploading the inappropriate/stolen movies and naming them "free whistle level advance!"

At 6/19/03 10:31 PM, BooDestroyer wrote: i look into the future and see people uploading the inappropriate/stolen movies and naming them "free whistle level advance!"

Bah, I posted that from AIM when talking to someone! Forgot to capitalize! Grammar doesn't matter much on AIM anyway (Hint-hint, Shrapnel, and no offense - Meh, forget it).

simple n00bish question
i found some outwar review and labeled it as abusive. will i recieve pints towards my whistle level by doing this or does it only count for movies and games?

I was wondering what the hell that was I just updated my profile their it was.

At 6/19/03 07:30 PM, TomFulp wrote: HOWEVER, don't think you can just blow the whistle on everything and get points when you're right. If you flag an item that is found to not break our guidelines, this will adversely affect your whistle rating. Don't let this discourage you! If you do a good job, your whistle level will rise more than it falls.

Yes, I was going to email you with a suggestion about this but I thought you'd reply like this, there are going to be alot more errors loading movies 'marked for review'

do u get points for a calling an abusive review?
yes or no?