At 10/15/08 03:01 PM, Slippery-Nipple wrote:
:I never seem to have any pencils around so I'm left to drawing with ink and I can't draw structure lines/shapes with ink, for it doesnt' erase.
Well, you can still draw an underlying skeletal frame, even if you're drawing in ink (at least if you're using a ballpoint pen, which is what it looks like you're using). Just sketch the lines very lightly - by the time you cover them up with harder lines and shading, they won't be that noticeable.
Which is not to say that you can never freehand things - people obviously do, with varying success - but, it does help a lot if you're already sort of comfortable with certain underlying structures and proportions, because then it's not complete guesswork.
I can appreciate that you're not going for realism - but if that's the case, then, I think you probably need to try strive for something more stylized - right now, you're sort of in an uncomfortable middle ground between realism and cartooning. Take a look at the work of Egon Schiele and some of the later work of Gustav Klimt - Schiele in particular seemed to tend towards figures that were elongated, a bit distorted, and sometimes downright ugly, but's what people love about him, because it's so different from work by other artists. You might also look at Peter Chung's work, particularly on Aeon Flux, since it was influenced by Egon Schiele's work.
Not that I'm saying you should try and emulate those styles - they're just to give you an example of what I mean when I say "stylized."
Still, I really can't emphasize enough how important it is to break things down into rudimentary shapes and then build them up from there when you're drawing - if all you've got is a pen, then learn some basic proportions and practice drawing stick figures - do them fast - do several on one page - and put them in lots of different poses, both static and active - they're actually pretty fun and if nothing else, they'll loosen you up before you start an intense drawing session.
Anyway, I never went to art school or anything, so feel free to disregard anything I say. And, don't get discouraged - art is full of mistakes, the trick is just to recognize your mistakes and learn from them.
Personally, people tell me all the time that my figures are too stiff and that my proportions are off - someday I'll get it right though...