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Wade, your retarded.

At 7/10/07 02:11 PM, WadeFulp wrote: Maybe instead of havin the musicians preach to us, when they themselves don't practice what they preach, they should have invited people on that do practice conservation and they could have spoke between acts.

Hahaha, but see, then no one would show up. The whole idea, at least in MY opinion, is to get Americans with really short attention spans to listen about conserving the Earth, through playing music they like and movies in between the acts or w/e. I'll be honest, I'm not totally familiar with Live Earth, but I really don't think anyone would show up if it was just a bunch of musicians lecturing.

They did play those short movies between acts, but most of them were kinda strange and obscure.

Kinda like the whole Earth saving movement, amirite? :P

At 7/10/07 02:24 AM, positively-negative wrote: Bullshit it may have been. But it did give us THIS!!!!

I must go back on my previous post and declare this thread pathetic, just because of Spinal Tap's incredible performance.
In addition, because no one watched and commented on the incredible episode of Rocko that I posted the link to here, I feel that with the exception of those who did mention that mind-blowing band known as Spinal Tap in this thread, that all others who posted here failed. TEH EDN.

Live Earth was a waste of Time I wish I could drive on stage and run over that asshole Al Gore along with Tipper whore.

I converse energy but not my diginty. I hope the earth floods on the coastlines destorying world cities. I am safe unless it gets to the Great Lakes.

I conserve energy I don't need bands telling me to do so that's so fucking dumb they don't conserve at all I agree with all wade has to say on this topic and he is right about everything on this subject.

Oh come on, who takes this stuff seriously? People only encourage it for free concerts.

At 7/10/07 02:12 PM, WadeFulp wrote:

At 7/10/07 01:09 PM, BananaBreadMuffin wrote:

At 7/10/07 01:01 PM, WadeFulp wrote: Some people like to make it sound like these things will happen over night.

I loll'd

Haha, that was a fun movie, but based in fantasy. Although it would be cool to see the Earth do something like that, because it would mean the Earth has the ability to clean itself up. :)

Hahah, totally. The main point of that movie, what was it? Massive hurricanes bringing down sub-zero air from the upper atmosphere that can freeze shit in seconds? What a laugh. Good popcorn blockbuster though, and I liked the jabs at book burning and the americans fleeing to mexico etc.

At 7/9/07 09:16 PM, WadeFulp wrote: Again, you and others are missing the point. I"m not preaching for other websites to stop running pop ups, showing porn, etc.

You seemed to be adding that they shouldn't have conserts at all, which I don't agree with. I still get that feeling from reading your first post.

At 7/10/07 03:30 PM, WadeFulp wrote:

Basically ice melts, sea levels rise a bit, the oceans warm and then we have more and more snow. The snow reflects away the sun's rays, and the Earth cools, we have an ice age.

Yes, thats a theory related to Global Warming.

Much like the Shutdown of the thermohaline circulation and the freezing of Europe and North America.

All the bands played shitty anyway.

the concert wasn't free to get into, but they were widely available all over the internet, and more people tuned in than people went to the actual concert - i think that was planned

these people are musicians, they know they have alot of fans that would listen to them, they're using what they do best to help spread what they believe in, i'm sure plenty of people actually will be following the 'pledge' they were teaching at the shindig - which will far over ride the 'damage' done to the enviroment by all the people getting there

what do you do for the enviroment?

you're just one person, so it actually doesn't even matter

these people helped make a difference however

The fact is there is no scientific proof of anything these pompas assholes say. Global warming is a natural accurance. You have warming periods and cooling periods. Its a cycle that happens over and over again. Do we pollute and screw things up? Absolutaly. But Al Gore can kiss my ass. He drives around in a SUV and tells us to conserve. Well FU Al Gore. Its been proven that his gay ass movie was all bullshit. But what do you expect from someone who claimed to have invented the internet.

At 7/9/07 05:09 PM, EcilaSrennah wrote: I know, I'm probably wrong about mostly everything, I don't know much about politics and science, but those are my two cents, for what they're worth.

Two cents?

Your ignorance regarding LEDs is staggering! You present your views with no scientific or engineering data to back it up. You've provided no links to any articles or research papers to back up your conclusions. You've presented your opinions, based on nothing but your own fear, as if it were established truth.

I collect flashlights. I stopped counting how many LED lights I have, when my collection of those lights grew to over 2 dozen. And believe me, flashlight collecting is more common than most folks think it is. My collection is okay..... But it pales in comparison to what other collectors have. Some of whom are electrical engineers! I seriously doubt that they would use LEDs, if your baseless claims were true.

On a more personal level, I patrol darkened office floors for a living. (If everyone slept when it was dark out, crooks would burglarize office buildings at night). What do I use 5 nights out of the week, every week? A black 2-C cell Maglite with their LED upgrade. This isn't some tiny LED key-chain model. My full-size LED flashlight is what I've used for nearly a year! ....... With zero negative effects to my eyes.

I don't know why you have such an irrational fear of LEDs. I don't know who told you they are dangerous. (Basically, I don't know who lied to you). But whoever it was, I know it sure as Hell wasn't an electrical engineer! This whole thing reminds me of when tomatoes first became plentiful in America. A couple of centuries ago, some idiot said they were poisonous..... And for a long time, otherwise intelligent people believed it.

But LEDs have already gotten into your home. You obviously have a computer. See that tiny light on your Hard drive? Wave hello to the LED on your comp. Don't worry, he's not going to get you.

At 7/10/07 10:55 PM, AndersonCouncil wrote: All the bands played shitty anyway.

Kanye West does not approve...

Evidence suggests that an Ice Age could be starting.

Glaciers such as Greenland are melting but these only account for 6% of the Global Ice Mass. The Antarctic however is thickening, this is worrying because it has been melting for the past 6,000 years.

Theres also the whole Water Salinity in the Gulf stream spewl that the Day After Tommorow went on about. If the Greenland Glacier melts it will cause a rush of freshwater into the Atlantic, this will damage the circulation of the Gulf Stream essentially closing it down and possibly other warming currents will seise to be as a result, causing frozen testicles the world over.

Live Earth was a nice idea, but really was a bit fucking stupid. All these rich cunts who live unbelievable jetsetting lifestyles telling the common man he is damaging the environment. It sticks in my throat like when Bono (a cunt who wears $100,000 sunglasses and sued his ex workers for stealing a pair of his trousers) preaching to the common man that he needs to stop being selfish and give to the poor.

Then theres the Kyoto push. If every nation in the world signed it it was have a staggering affect on global temperature rise. This effect is predicted to be about 0.004degrees celsius decrease in Global Temperature by around 2015.

On the other hand C02 content in the atmosphere is calculated to be higher than its ever been in the past 600,000 years. I'd imagine we would have something to do with that.

Come on people, just take a step back for one moment and take in the glory of the Live Earth PR machine for just one moment. This is all about power flow here. How did George Bush almost single handedly push the Executive branch into the most powerful position in America. The trend was moving that way anyways, but Bush accelerated the process by light years.

How did he do this? Through effective control of information to control popular majority. Selling the Iraq War? With the information provided by Bush and those he had surrounded himself (remember, by this time dissenters like Powell were silenced or cut out of the loop of Wolfowitz and Rumsfield) In just a few months he had gotten nearly 100% of congress to agree with his plans to gain control of the Middle East. All this was possible through maintaining his personal image, and giving the sense that everyone agreed with it. Congress and America handed the reigns of power to George Bush and gave him free range for 8 years to do practically whatever he wants.

Live Earth? No difference. The fine people at powerful lobbying organization such as the Sierra Club, know that to gain political power they need to spread limited information that can be easily condensed into internet, tv, and paper formats. By gaining the upper ground of having the sense of the majority on their side, they can then control the political process and have free range to pass whatever legislation they wish. This isn't about saving the planet, it's about controlling population. By setting up world wide events like this they can easily gain access to political process through backdoor and then eventually open methods.

There will be money involved in vast sums, but like Bush who mainly wanted to create American friendly stabalizing forces in the middle to off set the Iran's and OPEC controlled nations, the Environmental Movement merely wants to dictate the policies relating to the environment. Dissenting voices will be cut out of the loops or pushed aside.

Dissenting voices like Wade Fulp. The tiny...tiny voice of Wade Fulp. Fulp your Fucked.

As for me, i reckon it would be cool to live in the period of climate change, rather then before it started or after it ended.

New age hippies i say.

Oh snap, Live Earth just got owned.

At 7/9/07 03:58 PM, Craven-Dick wrote: Jesus there just trying to help the planet they live in.

Yeah, and causing the waste of resources while they're at it.

hey there wade -

nice site you got here..

back to the point , it's essential to realise that no man can change the world - unless he is influential enough..

if the different national governments allocate more spending to conserving the environment and research on eco - friendly substitutes...we have very much of a fighting chance.

no one - not you , me or anyone in NG has that kinda power for now..

revving up the masses for something like that is hard - and i guess that's what live earth tried to propogate..

i saw the concerts on tv..and i saw those short movies too..they made me think a little.maybe i will do something about it.

but for now let's try to consider every step in conserving the environment as a good one..

hopefully something good has come out of it..

At 7/9/07 05:15 PM, WadeFulp wrote:

At 7/9/07 05:09 PM, EcilaSrennah wrote: I think it's a brilliant idea to use them for street lights, but I mean that I'll never use them in my headlights or household. So many people think "Oh, replace all lights with LED!" and that makes me scared. :[ I like my vision, I don't want to slowly lose it because offices and stuff use LEDs. :'[

I'd really like to see you back up these claims. Do you have any credible articals you could link to about LED's damaging vision? Where have you heard this? Yes, green and blue LED's can be bad, but the new LED's are white, and they keep getting whiter. Also you're not considering the improvements made in LED's, and the future improvements that maybe made. Hopefully they will be able to develope LED's that put out full spectrum lighting, minus harmful UV, etc. At that point they should be fine for indoor use.

umm, aren't LEDs like flourescents in how they work? don't they "flash" on and off several times a second? i think flourescents go around 40 - 60 fps but im not sure about LEDs. mebbe they don't, but if they do, then they are bad for your eyesight -_-

They just want to seem nice by 'trying' to save our planet, therebuy making more money.