Why india will never become a power

[Cheekyvincent]

Why india will never become a world power
(soz the title never works)

Some people i know think india is going to be next world power. What i think think of them is their view is complete rubbish. Why do i think this? Heres why

- India is poor. Face it, there might be one or two rich people, but the rest are poor and prbably live less than 3 dollars a day.

- India has nuclear power, why have i put this? isnt this a good thing? well, inida NEVER got nuclear power itself without the US giving it some. countries like China actually did some research.

- India has got a shit climate- every year, you get floods, cyclones, typhoons, landslides or its bloody hot. How is some place gonna get far if no one likes the weather?

- They aren't experienced- they don't know how to deal with accidents

- They dont make anything- how many goods have you seen with a "Made in India" sign? They don't export much do they?

- The only country that really likes them is the US. otherwise, no one really likes them. They're also surrounded by enemies. COUGH Pakistan

[Asswipe3210]

Why India will be a world power.

Their enemies hate the U.S

The U.S supports India.

[Cheekyvincent]

At 7/5/07 03:59 PM, Asswipe3210 wrote: Why India will be a world power.

Their enemies hate the U.S

The U.S supports India.

and everyone is their enemy EXCEPT the U.S. so its a 2 man team versus the world

[TheBasics]

I agree on the part that India is poor in terms of the main population, and on the part that they have a bad climate. You forgot to put overpopulation, people say having an extrodinarily large population is good. And in some points it is, larger labor force, more people to sell/make products, more tax money(lol). But having such a large population has its problems also, disease, poverty, crime to name a few. Also population=/=strong army which is another thing a world power needs, a powerful military. India does have a chance at becoming a world power, but they need to sort a lot of problems out first.

[Buffalow]

Your retarded, of course they know how to deal with problems, they have been fighting Pakistan for over 10 years! They also, like you said, have to deal with floods, monsoons, and heavy rains every year, don't you think they've built up some kind of relief agency?

[ScytheCutter]

At 7/5/07 12:57 PM, Cheekyvincent wrote:

- India is poor. Face it, there might be one or two rich people, but the rest are poor and prbably live less than 3 dollars a day.

The United States was once poor, China, Russia (still is relatively poor), Canada, the list goes on.

- India has nuclear power, why have i put this? isnt this a good thing? well, inida NEVER got nuclear power itself without the US giving it some. countries like China actually did some research.

The Arabs didn't get guns by themselves, the US gave them to them, know look at the hell they're causing even with out 'some research'

- India has got a shit climate- every year, you get floods, cyclones, typhoons, landslides or its bloody hot. How is some place gonna get far if no one likes the weather?

The Monsoon (however thats spelt) is a time that is looked forward to all year round.

- They aren't experienced- they don't know how to deal with accidents

PROOF!

- They dont make anything- how many goods have you seen with a "Made in India" sign? They don't export much do they?

I've seen plenty exported from India

- The only country that really likes them is the US. otherwise, no one really likes them. They're also surrounded by enemies. COUGH Pakistan

You want a hals for that cough?

[Der-Lowe]

Why India will become a power:

-Capitalist country
-1 billion people.

[cellardoor6]

At 7/5/07 12:57 PM, Cheekyvincent wrote: - India is poor. Face it, there might be one or two rich people, but the rest are poor and prbably live less than 3 dollars a day.

Doesn't matter. India is developing, rapidly. If their growth remains at the current rate, it will lift most of their population out of poverty. You're talking about problems that India has always had due to a host of factors, however you're disregarding the fact that their quality of life is getting better, and their society as a whole is doing pretty damn well considering their history and their problems.

- India has nuclear power, why have i put this? isnt this a good thing? well, inida NEVER got nuclear power itself without the US giving it some. countries like China actually did some research.

Actually, India developed nuclear technology and nuclear weapons independent of any other country.

You're thinking about how they just recently got more advanced technology for power generation from the US. The US did this to help India out, to make it easier for India to produce electricity for their gigantic population more safely and efficiently, but that doesn't mean India couldn't have done it without the US. They could have, but just with more difficulty.

- India has got a shit climate- every year, you get floods, cyclones, typhoons, landslides or its bloody hot. How is some place gonna get far if no one likes the weather?

The US has shit climate, every year floods, tornadoes, and sometimes hurricanes kill hundreds (sometimes thousands) of people. Besides, natural disasters in India take place usually in very rural areas, that's not going to impact their economy or population much at all.

- They aren't experienced- they don't know how to deal with accidents

Um... what are you basing this on?

- They dont make anything- how many goods have you seen with a "Made in India" sign? They don't export much do they?

That doesn't matter. India is producing a large amount of skilled, educated workers. It is becoming a center of business and services, which today is the economic foundation of a modern country. If they make money regardless, it doesn't matter how much of that money is made from exporting things they make.

- The only country that really likes them is the US. otherwise, no one really likes them. They're also surrounded by enemies. COUGH Pakistan

Actually loads of countries like India. India has good relations with NATO, the EU, South America, and Russia.

Now, you're ignoring all kinds of things that show a very promising future for India:

- Highly educated population. They emphasize education much more than basically any other society, they are producing a HUGE amount of highly-sought after workers in basically every field.

- High economic growth rate. India's GDP grows by 8.5% every year. If they maintain this rate, they will have no trouble improving quality of life and industrializing their entire country's infrastructure to lift people out of poverty.

- India is developing a consumer-oriented economy. Imports will flood their markets. This will even further stimulate economic growth and make basic products more affordable for the people who currently live in poverty.

- Most importantly, India is a democracy. India is the world's most populous democracy by many times. They have the ability to self-correct due to their free elections, they're not controlled by a brutal authoritarian government, or a tyrant, or a religious cleric like many other countries are.

[LiveBreatheTom]

India will probably become a power, seeing as the people "living on $3 a day" are qualified and are become a good source for consumer and consulting call-lines. That and a lot of computer jobs such as programming and development are being sent to India. It's a distinct possibility.

[yankeefan22]

At 7/5/07 12:57 PM, Cheekyvincent wrote: Why india will never become a world power
(soz the title never works)

It works

Some people i know think india is going to be next world power. What i think think of them is their view is complete rubbish. Why do i think this? Heres why

Gimmie sleeping PILLS NOW!

- India is poor. Face it, there might be one or two rich people, but the rest are poor and prbably live less than 3 dollars a day.

True, but most countries were poor atleast ONCE!

- India has nuclear power, why have i put this? isnt this a good thing? well, inida NEVER got nuclear power itself without the US giving it some. countries like China actually did some research.

This matters WHY?

- India has got a shit climate- every year, you get floods, cyclones, typhoons, landslides or its bloody hot. How is some place gonna get far if no one likes the weather?

Sooooooooo????????????

- They aren't experienced- they don't know how to deal with accidents

If the weather is shit, should they have EXPERINCE with that?

- They dont make anything- how many goods have you seen with a "Made in India" sign? They don't export much do they?

Guns, a lot of shit

- The only country that really likes them is the US. otherwise, no one really likes them. They're also surrounded by enemies. COUGH Pakistan

PROVE IT!

TAKE THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Cheekyvincent]

At 7/5/07 07:21 PM, cellardoor6 wrote: Doesn't matter. India is developing, rapidly. If their growth remains at the current rate, it will lift most of their population out of poverty. You're talking about problems that India has always had due to a host of factors, however you're disregarding the fact that their quality of life is getting better, and their society as a whole is doing pretty damn well considering their history and their problems.

Actually, India developed nuclear technology and nuclear weapons independent of any other country.

nope the US did it see- Other countries never wanted it but somehow, pakistan was there so they wanted to scar them

You're thinking about how they just recently got more advanced technology for power generation from the US. The US did this to help India out, to make it easier for India to produce electricity for their gigantic population more safely and efficiently, but that doesn't mean India couldn't have done it without the US. They could have, but just with more difficulty.

then it werent themselves

The US has shit climate, every year floods, tornadoes, and sometimes hurricanes kill hundreds (sometimes thousands) of people. Besides, natural disasters in India take place usually in very rural areas, that's not going to impact their economy or population much at all.

yh but people still wanna go there coz some places are nice

- They aren't experienced- they don't know how to deal with accidents

Um... what are you basing this on?

Bhopal

That doesn't matter. India is producing a large amount of skilled, educated workers. It is becoming a center of business and services, which today is the economic foundation of a modern country. If they make money regardless, it doesn't matter how much of that money is made from exporting things they make.

dont take me as a racist the only preffesions they are involved in are- doctors, indian restaurants and theres 1 terrorist doctor

Actually loads of countries like India. India has good relations with NATO, the EU, South America, and Russia.

Russia? they also helped Pakistan to go nuclear, why would they like them?

- Highly educated population. They emphasize education much more than basically any other society, they are producing a HUGE amount of highly-sought after workers in basically every field.

and therefore our doctors get outsourced

- High economic growth rate. India's GDP grows by 8.5% every year. If they maintain this rate, they will have no trouble improving quality of life and industrializing their entire country's infrastructure to lift people out of poverty.

have you heard of a thing called inflation

[cellardoor6]

At 7/6/07 01:15 AM, Cheekyvincent wrote:

At 7/5/07 07:21 PM, cellardoor6 wrote: Actually, India developed nuclear technology and nuclear weapons independent of any other country.

nope the US did it see- Other countries never wanted it but somehow, pakistan was there so they wanted to scar them

Are you THAT dumb? You linked to a Google search page, in which the results mentioned the recent US- India nuclear deal that took place last year.

But India has been a nuclear power for much longer than that. As of 2000 (6 years before the US-India nuke deal you speak of) India had 17 nuclear power plants, and India first successfully tested nuclear bombs in 1998.

All the US did recently was give India more advanced technology in order to make power-generation (for civilian use) more efficient and safe. The US didn't give India nuclear power, they already had it, the US just helped them out so that India could produce electricity for their gigantic population more easily.

So yeah, you don't know wtf you're talking about.

The US has shit climate.

yh but people still wanna go there coz some places are nice

Places in India are nice. India gets a lot of tourism. Climate doesn't really mean anything as you suggest it does. India's climate isn't much worse than ours, and the fact you make such a thing as a determination of whether or not India will become a world power shows how incredibly weak your argument is.

India WILL become a world power, and is well on its way. Its climate isn't going to prevent that.

- They aren't experienced- they don't know how to deal with accidents

Um... what are you basing this on?

Bhopal

And you think any other country would have handled it better?

You think that the death of 20,000 people occurring VERY rarely (only once, ever in such a circumstance) is going to prevent a country of over 1 billion people from becoming a world power?

That doesn't matter. India is producing a large amount of skilled, educated workers. It is becoming a center of business and services, which today is the economic foundation of a modern country. If they make money regardless, it doesn't matter how much of that money is made from exporting things they make.

dont take me as a racist the only preffesions they are involved in are- doctors, indian restaurants and theres 1 terrorist doctor

You seriously don't know WHAT IN THE HELL you're talking about. The education rate in India is incredibly high, and the jobs range in everything from telecommunications, doctors, lawyers, engineers, computer designers, software designers, aeronautical engineers, to the lower yet equally important jobs of professors, law enforcement etc..

Indians are incredibly educated and talented and theres a whole lot of them. That is large reason why they ARE going to become world power. The fact that they don't export much of their own Indian-made products means absolutely nothing, because they will still make just as much money and contribute just as much to the global economy.

Actually loads of countries like India. India has good relations with NATO, the EU, South America, and Russia.

Russia? they also helped Pakistan to go nuclear, why would they like them?

Russia and India have military ties and economic ties. They are friendly. Other than that, you didn't include the fact that you said "nobody likes India" you entire left out the fact that ACTUALLY, many countries like India and have extensive ties with them.

- Highly educated population. They emphasize education much more than basically any other society, they are producing a HUGE amount of highly-sought after workers in basically every field.

and therefore our doctors get outsourced

HAHAHAHA What? Our doctors don't get outsourced you silly fool. How is a person in India going to act as a doctor in the US? Are they going to perform medicine; do checkups and perform surgery in the US via the phone when they are in India?

- High economic growth rate. India's GDP grows by 8.5% every year. If they maintain this rate, they will have no trouble improving quality of life and industrializing their entire country's infrastructure to lift people out of poverty.

have you heard of a thing called inflation

Have you heard of a thing called... GROWTH? Growth SLOWS inflation, it doesn't create it, not unless there is an abrupt break or reverse of growth, which India is not likely to experience.

Dude, seriously... you really have no clue what you're talking about. This whole thread you created here is based purely on your own misconceptions and lack of understanding of economics. Or maybe you have some ridiculous bias against India where it entirely clouds your judgment. Are you Pakistani or something?

Either way, yeah... you're WRONG. India can and will become a world power, everything you said to suggest otherwise has been entirely wrong.

kthxbai

[SadisticMonkey]

At 7/5/07 04:40 PM, Cheekyvincent wrote:

At 7/5/07 03:59 PM, Asswipe3210 wrote: Why India will be a world power.

Their enemies hate the U.S

The U.S supports India.

and everyone is their enemy EXCEPT the U.S. so its a 2 man team versus the world

Well it appears you forgot the fact the US has fucking heaps of allies. So no.

[Dash-Underscore-Dash]

Their still calling it India? I thought they renamed it Dell Customer Service Headquarters.

[deslona]

At 7/5/07 12:57 PM, Cheekyvincent wrote: Why india will never become a world power
(soz the title never works)

Some people i know think india is going to be next world power. What i think think of them is their view is complete rubbish. Why do i think this? Heres why

I agree. It isn't.

- India is poor. Face it, there might be one or two rich people, but the rest are poor and prbably live less than 3 dollars a day.

Hardly conclusive. China has similar rates and a growing wage gap.

- India has nuclear power, why have i put this? isnt this a good thing? well, inida NEVER got nuclear power itself without the US giving it some. countries like China actually did some research.

This is one of the major problems. India has no government support for development.

- India has got a shit climate- every year, you get floods, cyclones, typhoons, landslides or its bloody hot. How is some place gonna get far if no one likes the weather?

Other countries have that too. It isn't a real reason. But a small one.

- They aren't experienced- they don't know how to deal with accidents

They have no real organisational ability. They don't have the 'proper' education or equipment to keep and MAINTAIN a properly sized division of rescue workers/vehicles.

- They dont make anything- how many goods have you seen with a "Made in India" sign? They don't export much do they?

Maybe they don't export to you. But they export some. ANd besides, their main international industry is service related, not physical products.

- The only country that really likes them is the US. otherwise, no one really likes them. They're also surrounded by enemies. COUGH Pakistan

China isn't so keen on India either. On the grounds that they have very little to offer China. It isn't on any priority list.

You miss the real reasons on why;
1st India has NO infrastructure
2nd no major resources
3rd no proper organisation that is fast and efficient
4th Requires support from other countries whenever there is an accident
5th It isn't a power, and by the time it is, China will be in the spotlight. And China won't want a big guy next door....

[The-Hydra-of-Spore]

None of those problems are India's main concern. No the main concern of India is agriculture, agriculture is the main economical activity of India yes less and less government funding is going into it what India needs to do is fund agriculture. Butt the massive work force of India will soon rise to make it a world power. The low economical value of the money will rise as it is already rising and become bigger and bigger. Such is the positive point of being a capitalist country with a large workforce so long as the government does not screw it up. And what you call "shit climate" (although I have been there and it's quite nice.) India has adapted to and grows plenty of food which is exported to the world. Go outside and have a look at the rice in your store I guarantee you one brand will be made in India. India is also part of the common wealth so I think you will find it has ally there and UK shows some support and the USA is a pretty damn big ally and India knows how to deal with Pakistan.

[Tri-Nitro-Toluene]

At 7/5/07 12:57 PM, Cheekyvincent wrote: - India is poor. Face it, there might be one or two rich people, but the rest are poor and prbably live less than 3 dollars a day.

The same can be sad of CHina, and can also be said of every nation that is now a power, as everywhere started off poor at some point.

- India has nuclear power, why have i put this? isnt this a good thing? well, inida NEVER got nuclear power itself without the US giving it some. countries like China actually did some research.

This is relevant how?

Most technology is just taken/ given from/ by somewhere else. US does it, UK did it, and the UK was a world power for the better part of a century, and, arguably, could still be consdiered a world power.

- India has got a shit climate- every year, you get floods, cyclones, typhoons, landslides or its bloody hot. How is some place gonna get far if no one likes the weather?

Yes because living with said natural hazards they have no idea of how to deal with them...

<eye roll>

- They aren't experienced- they don't know how to deal with accidents

I'm jsut pretend you didn't say that until you can offer some proof.

- They dont make anything- how many goods have you seen with a "Made in India" sign? They don't export much do they?

Yes, yes they do make stuff. But ost of India's rise comes in the form of things like telecommunications ( is that the right term?).

Ever phoned up a help line to have an Indian bloke answer you? Guess where they live. Go on, take a wild guess.

- The only country that really likes them is the US.

And the UK seeing as they are apart of the commonwealth, the rest oft he Commonwealth, in fact most of the western world.

otherwise, no one really likes them. They're also surrounded by enemies. COUGH Pakistan

One nation, is not surrounded by enemies.

[Cheekyvincent]

At 7/5/07 07:05 PM, Der-Lowe wrote: Why India will become a power:

-Capitalist country
-1 billion people.

and did you know that capitalist countries have a very slow rate of growth and unemployment. just look at germany

At 7/6/07 03:30 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote: Well it appears you forgot the fact the US has fucking heaps of allies. So no.

name 10 that are actually recognisable to the world whos PEOPLE like the US rather than the government that gets 100000000 dollars a year in bribes.

At 7/6/07 03:59 AM, Dash-Underscore-Dash wrote: Their still calling it India? I thought they renamed it Dell Customer Service Headquarters.

lol i hate call centers over there- u need bloody subtitles to understand what they're saying and THEY ALSO NEED TO STFU ABOUT SHILPA SHITTY coz they were trying to talk about it when my computer decided to die.

[Der-Lowe]

At 7/6/07 03:37 PM, Cheekyvincent wrote:

At 7/5/07 07:05 PM, Der-Lowe wrote: Why India will become a power:

-Capitalist country
-1 billion people.

and did you know that capitalist countries have a very slow rate of growth and unemployment. just look at germany

You know that all Americans are billionaires, just look at Bill Gates.

[Cuppa-LettuceNog]

At 7/5/07 12:57 PM, Cheekyvincent wrote: Why india will never become a world power
(soz the title never works)

Nice job making a political claim without doing a bit of research, may I begin.

Some people i know think india is going to be next world power. What i think think of them is their view is complete rubbish. Why do i think this? Heres why

As well as anyone with a clue, since in 2007 India was projected to have a future GNP placing them as the 3rd highest nation in the world. In other words, they would be the richest people besides the U.S and Japan.

- India is poor. Face it, there might be one or two rich people, but the rest are poor and prbably live less than 3 dollars a day.

What? The IMF places India's GNP at 13th in the world, and the world bank (usually more accurate) places them at 10th. Fail.

- India has nuclear power, why have i put this? isnt this a good thing? well, inida NEVER got nuclear power itself without the US giving it some. countries like China actually did some research.

Almost everyone in the known world got the plans for nuclear power by a friendly nation. The only people who developed their own plans were those few who had such a bad international foothold that they HAD to. Fail.

- India has got a shit climate- every year, you get floods, cyclones, typhoons, landslides or its bloody hot. How is some place gonna get far if no one likes the weather?

Yes, because it's not like the USSR was ever powerful. Again, fail.

- They aren't experienced- they don't know how to deal with accidents

What "accidents"? There have been people in India for thousands of years, just like anywhere else, why would they be the only people on earth left who don't know how to deal with accidents in their homeland? Fail.

- They dont make anything- how many goods have you seen with a "Made in India" sign? They don't export much do they?

India exports roughly 112 billion USD annually, and is one of the worlds leader in exporting both software and human resources. Fail.

- The only country that really likes them is the US. otherwise, no one really likes them. They're also surrounded by enemies. COUGH Pakistan

India can claim friendly, lucritive relationships with China, America, the European Union, the U.A.E, as well as a host of other countries who offered signs of friendship since India switched from a socialist nation to a capitalist one.

[Cuppa-LettuceNog]

At 7/6/07 03:37 PM, Cheekyvincent wrote:

and did you know that capitalist countries have a very slow rate of growth and unemployment. just look at germany

The fuck? India is consistently estimated to have the largest rise in the next half century in terms of GNP then any other nation, and since switching from a socialist nation in 1991 the economy has changed from roughly 50 Billion USD to roughly 210 Billion USD.

name 10 that are actually recognisable to the world whos PEOPLE like the US rather than the government that gets 100000000 dollars a year in bribes.

Name any nation that can name 10 nations were all the citizens like them. You can't. Thats impossible. Theres at least one fucking citizen in every nation of the world that hates any said nation.

lol i hate call centers over there- u need bloody subtitles to understand what they're saying and THEY ALSO NEED TO STFU ABOUT SHILPA SHITTY coz they were trying to talk about it when my computer decided to die.

Actually, if you actually knew what you were talking about and hadn't just assumed you knew how that worked because that's how you saw it on T.V one time, you would know that in reality firms train the people they outsource to not only the language, but the accent and dialect of their country, meaning that the conversations tend to be easy to understand.