Circumcision in chilidren...

[Quamp]

As many of you know the USA are more commonly known for foreskin removal, which in terms means, removing the foreskin from the penis showing only the head of the penis.

Now, I wanted to see what NewGrounders though of this and getting it done as a child; beetween the age of birth in 6 weeks of being born, do you think it's right for a child to have circumcision done to a child?

Now, I'm British, and I've never had my foreskin removed; or anything like that happen to it, and I'm fine with it, and I've never though of getting it removed.

Now many people get this done for either, religious beliefs; as common in the Jewish or Hindu community, and I've also heard some baby's in the USA get it done at birth, sometimes it's done for medical reasons.

Eight weeks after fertilization, the foreskin begins to grow over the head of the penis, covering it completely by 16 weeks. At this stage the foreskin and glans share an epithilium (mucous layer) that fuses the two together. It remains this way until the foreskin separates from the glans. So would you agree to get it done at an early age?

So NewGrounds, whats your views to Circumcision?

[KingRugger]

I'm cool with it, though i've not had it done. It doesn't do any damage, and like you said sometimes its for medical reasons.
Correct me if i'm wrong, but i believe Jewish people started doing for hygiene reasons.

[Quamp]

At 7/4/07 12:54 PM, KingRugger wrote: I'm cool with it, though i've not had it done. It doesn't do any damage, and like you said sometimes its for medical reasons.

Yeah, I had a cousin who had a foreskin removal, because his foreskin was to tight to pullback, so he went with the removal; he said it feels alot different, but I'd prefer to keep my foreskin, I think it's safer to keep it; plus I'm really attached to it :)
I'm really not sure on the religous reasons, All I've been told is that some religious community's; mostly found in the Jewish and Hindu get it done.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but i believe Jewish people started doing for hygiene reasons.

[Quamp]

At 7/4/07 01:04 PM, SevenSeize wrote: There really are not any drawbacks to it, besides the fact that the procedure has to be done in the first place.

I'd like to know if it would be THAT bad, I mean do you think it hurts?

I know it's stupid to ask, but I mean you don't know :)

Even tho I don't think I would go 'ahead' with the procedure.

[Nopidam]

Well, if you're gonna get it, get it while you're baby. This way you don't remember the pain or anything. I don't have a view on circumsision, however, I will circumsise my child (if I have a boy). To alot of people, it's a normal way of growing up.

[Quamp]

At 7/4/07 01:17 PM, SevenSeize wrote:

At 7/4/07 01:10 PM, Quamp wrote: I'd like to know if it would be THAT bad, I mean do you think it hurts?

I know it's stupid to ask, but I mean you don't know :)

Welllll.....Let's add a little bit more controversy to the fire, shall we? :-)

Why not? 8D

Most physicians (obgyns, which is who does it usually, not the pediatrician), say that if done within the first few weeks, preferably first few days, that the nerve endings in the penis have not yet finished developing, and the baby only feels mild discomfort.

Yeah, as I said somewhere in my first post, something similar, the penis isn't fully developed at the start and has atleast 6 - 8 weeks for full development

Child activists say, Bullshit, it hurts and it's inhumane and if you circumzise your baby, it will be traumatized and grow up to be an ax murderer.
We really cannot be 100% sure.

Of course not, well I doubt that. The baby will feel of course 'some pain' but not as much as a man would as if he would be going through the same procedure.

One thing I am happy about, is that more recently, doctors have started numbing the area or giving the baby low does of other pain medicine

That's nice to know, gives the parents some assurance while the baby is going through it.

It is not a procdure to enter into blindly. Expecting parents should research it thouroughly to decide if they degree.

Yes, I heard that it's completely up to parents if they think there child should go through a circumcision, as if it were my own child; I would completely research everything before letting my child go into such action.

Thanks, you've given me something to talk about. <3 you :)

[morefngdbs]

At 7/4/07 01:17 PM, SevenSeize wrote: Child activists say, Bullshit, it hurts and it's inhumane and if you circumzise your baby, it will be traumatized and grow up to be an ax murderer.

;
I had my hoodie cut off befor I was 1 years old.
So far I have not been inclined to become an axe murderer, actually I don't want to kill anyone with anything.

My uncle had to have his removed in his thirties, It fucked him up for more than a week.
So far he hasn't bothered to become an axe murderer either.

Stay tuned if one of us has that urge ,I'll let everyone know.

I know that I will have it done if I have a son. I presently have 2 daughters, I'm not the type who believes that female circumcission is ok.
There is no comparison between them.

[animehater]

At 7/4/07 01:17 PM, SevenSeize wrote: Child activists say, Bullshit, it hurts and it's inhumane and if you circumzise your baby, it will be traumatized and grow up to be an ax murderer.

Never heard aboutt hat before in my entire life. And doesn't your memory start developing at roughly the age of 3? I mean if you got it not long after your birth that's like saying the fact that you remember actually coming out of the womb and that expirience got you to become an axe murderer.

[SmilezRoyale]

If the parents can abort the baby they can circumsize it; it's really that simple.

I'm not for or against the idea of it, i'm in total favor of it being the choice of the parent; the pain it causes is a weak argument, considering the benefits it brings outweigh the negatives, just like taking a shot hurts your arm [or where-ever it is injected] but i dont hear people complaining about the pain it causes.

[Tomsan]

I am still convinced that uncircumcised people have a way more sensitive head. This makes us come faster but enjoy it much more... I mean one of my roommates is circumsized and he can do whatever he wants with is dickhead, I would cry like a sissy if I did that to myself, so I think I experience a intenser feeling then him

[animehater]

At 7/4/07 03:29 PM, SevenSeize wrote: I was just presenting the two sides of the argument that I have heard.

Wow. Where did you hear about that?

[Proteas]

At 7/4/07 03:05 PM, morefngdbs wrote: I had my hoodie cut off befor I was 1 years old.
So far I have not been inclined to become an axe murderer, actually I don't want to kill anyone with anything.

She wasn't saying that you would, just that some circumcision opponents say that it will adversely effect the psychological well being of the child, which I don't really buy for one instant.... if the pain from cutting off a bit of flesh is that harmful to a child's mental development, we should forego any other medical procedures that cause infants pain (shots, heel stick, etc etc).

My uncle had to have his removed in his thirties, It fucked him up for more than a week.

My mom told a similar story of a guy in his 20's who had it done back when she was a Nurse's technician... the guy was sick as a dog after the procedure. That's the only case I can think of for circumcision being inhumane.

Stay tuned if one of us has that urge ,I'll let everyone know.

I get that urge often, but usually for different reasons.

I presently have 2 daughters, I'm not the type who believes that female circumcission is ok.

The way it's done in 3rd world countries, no. But there is an elective procedure called a "Clitoral Hood Apendectomy" where they can remove the actual hooded sheath around the clitoris, but the only time I've ever heard of this being done was on a woman in her 40's who was having some issues with her husband satisfying her.

[Proteas]

At 7/4/07 03:33 PM, animehater wrote:

At 7/4/07 03:29 PM, SevenSeize wrote: I was just presenting the two sides of the argument that I have heard.

Wow. Where did you hear about that?

I don't know about Seven, but we've had circumcision debates on here in the past where that kind of opinion was rampant among the users.

Cool for posting the different views. I don't usually see anything wrong with the process personally (though, I've not had it done) and I respect the religious aspect of it, and the medical benefits.

I understand the child activist view. Circumcision has caused some mild discomfort to some people in know (when they were young children I think) but I think it's pros outmatch it's cons.

[morefngdbs]

At 7/4/07 03:33 PM, Proteas wrote:

At 7/4/07 03:05 PM, morefngdbs wrote: My uncle had to have his removed in his thirties, It fucked him up for more than a week.

My mom told a similar story of a guy in his 20's who had it done back when she was a Nurse's technician... the guy was sick as a dog after the procedure. That's the only case I can think of for circumcision being inhumane.

My uncle was having some problem with it cutting off circulation to the head of his penis, or some problem like that. its not a subject that is discussed much/ever. I just remember it ,when I was a teenager & my uncle came to have the proceedure done in Halifax.

[HighlyIllogical]

Circumcision is hygenic and so forth, but it's not a big deal (male circumcision, that is): "The National Health and Social Life Survey evidence indicates a slight benefit of circumcision but a negligible association with most outcomes." Journal of the American Medical Ass'n

[Tibyrius]

I have nothing against it, I myself am Circumcised and I can say I wouldn't have it any other
way. I'd probably have my son circumcised as well mainly for hygenic reasons because from what I hear its rather a hassel to keep it clean.

[JakeHero]

A thread like this begs the question is a circumcized penis like the Phantom of the Masked Opera? In his sketch, Richard Jenni drew he comparison, and I think he may be on to something. That's why they cause so much problems during puperty......for revenge!

[Fremen]

It's a religious choice, so the government shouldn't ban it.

[Bolo]

At 7/4/07 04:58 PM, Fremen wrote: It's a religious choice, so the government shouldn't ban it.

Not necessarily. I'm not Jewish, but I've had the procedure done.

[stafffighter]

At 7/4/07 12:54 PM, KingRugger wrote:
Correct me if i'm wrong, but i believe Jewish people started doing for hygiene reasons.

Cue Robin Williams "We're a traveling people. You don't wanna get sand in there."

It's both funny and possible.

[dodo-man-1]

Who cares?

[Faille]

At 7/4/07 01:04 PM, SevenSeize wrote: Well, the jury is still out on the benefits of it....

But I support it.

It has been shown to reduce risks of UTI in men, reduce the risk of contracting STDs in men, and reduce the risks of the woman in the relationship developing cervical cancer.

There really are not any drawbacks to it, besides the fact that the procedure has to be done in the first place.

Dont some believe that it reduces pleasure having it removed?

Mine has been removed, and I am happy. To be perfectly honest it just looks a lot better without it...

[troubles1]

I was having a conversation about this earlier and the girls who were involved all were in agreement that they would have a problem sleeping with a man that was NOT circumcised, granted We all live in America and most of us have it done at child birth, I had my son circumcised they do it on day 2 of life at the hospital .. but as the girls were saying they think that a uncircumcised Dick looks weird, and made a lot of jokes referring to it as a stinky dick, and that no way would they put it in any part of there body.

SO if for no other reason then to get the girl, and not have her scream from shock at the sight of it, get it done Boys, because there are places we want to go and for many girls they wont let you if you have a ugly stinky dick.. at least in America.

And as a Good father you should look into the future of your Boys life you don't want him not getting that perfect Spring break girl because she thought he was deformed or just has a ugly dick.

[DrBrainTrust]

I've heard mention of the idea that uncut penises are more sensitive because they're not exposed. I've also heard that uncircumcised men have trouble cleaning thoroughly and applying condoms. Personally I feel that the hygienic reasons are enough to support circumcision, and I doubt highly that there are many people wishing they hadn't been snipped as children.

[Squirrel-General]

Circumcision MUST be done! I especialy hate it when I'm whatching a porno and there's a guy with an uncircumcised dick pounding a mildly attractive female. I have to burn it before I go blind, otherwise I might set the house on fire.

Hopefully we'll evolve to where we're born without the foreskin.

[The-JefFlet]

well even if you not circumcised its not hard to stay clean but it is still more work than if you were circumcised.

funny story:
my sister had heard someone talk about foreskin in the bible about moses or something, and she thought foreskin was skin from a forehead!! and she was 15 at the time!

[ProBo]

I live in the US, and my brother dident have his removed due to medical reasons 9doctors dident recomend it) and now he says he wishes that they did remove it.