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At 7/9/07 09:26 PM, Memorize wrote:

At 7/9/07 08:48 PM, Zantief wrote:

thermite found in the building, pockets of 2000 debris found when jet fuel only burns 500, the perfectly diagonally cut i-beam, and others.

Talk to the experts

500 what?

The fire caused by the plane (though not hot enough to melt the steel) was hot enough to cause the steal to lose over 50% of their structural integrity.

WHICH WAS COVERED IN THE MOVIE.

HI, I LIKE TO FORGET PARTS OF THE MOVIE AND PRETEND LIKE I KNOW WHAT THE FUCK I'M TALKINA BOUT.

Eat shit.

This is why we should kill every human being on the face of the earth.

kill everyone, and the problems solved.

The whole entire chip thing just scares the shit outta me. And honestly I don't really care if someone calls me stupid for beliving in some theorys like this.

The way I see it, the odds are against people that don't even take time to consider things like this.

If none of this stuff is real, then good for you! Were idiots, your the ones that knew this was BS, the world goes on.

On the other hand, if there really are powerful people plotting like this, then just maybe we can preserve our freedom. If not, then we are fucked.

Its just a movie, i doubt anything that they say has the equivalent of being even in the same definition of common sense.

At 7/9/07 09:40 PM, Dante-Son-Of-Sparda wrote: ditto but who cares there wasting thier lives since they "know" theres a shadow goverment that will control EVERY ONE

and the world is ruled by dead 1920s bankers

At 7/9/07 11:19 PM, btriangle wrote: Its just a movie, i doubt anything that they say has the equivalent of being even in the same definition of common sense.

It's an informative movie, there are informative movies on dinosaurs, history, space, black holes, plants, instruments. Are you implying that just because they are movies they are definetly fake and should be ignored?

At 7/9/07 11:30 PM, the-salmon-of-doubt wrote:

At 7/9/07 09:40 PM, Dante-Son-Of-Sparda wrote: ditto but who cares there wasting thier lives since they "know" theres a shadow goverment that will control EVERY ONE

and the world is ruled by dead 1920s bankers

Since when in your brain did it click that people can't have children?

At 7/9/07 11:34 PM, CHRlST wrote: It's an informative movie, there are informative movies on dinosaurs, history, space, black holes, plants, instruments. Are you implying that just because they are movies they are definetly fake and should be ignored?

That's only if you believe it. And the income tax part of the movie is already discredited. I don't trust it anymore.

A lot of those points were very correct, and every idiotic post left on this thread reinforces the correctness of it.

Also I think the author mean Verge of non ..whatever,,, Shut up richard

At 7/9/07 10:56 PM, g0t wrote:

WHICH WAS COVERED IN THE MOVIE.

Which was also covered in the link, which was backed by an architect.

HI, I LIKE TO FORGET PARTS OF THE MOVIE AND PRETEND LIKE I KNOW WHAT THE FUCK I'M TALKINA BOUT.

Ask yourself this about 9/11 conspiracy theories. If the government set up bombs, then how did they by-pass thousands of people and cameras to set them up while keeping the other thousands of people who knew about it, quiet?

Another myth is that the government knew that 9/11 was going to happen, but did nothing. WATCH THE HISTORY CHANNEL. They had a special on it about the hi-jackers AND what warning Bush was given.

Bush was given this warning: "Terror attack in imminent. Likely by plane (or other method)". That's right. They did not detail how the attack was going to happen. Bush was not given a date for when it would happen. Nor was a target given to Bush.

The world trade centers were 30 year old buildings meant to be able to withstand a normal plane at that time. Not a Boeing 747 with a full tank of fuel to slam in to the center of the towers causing a massive explosion forcing the heat to rise over 1000 degree F causing the metal to lose more than half its structural integrity. You have several stories now blown to bits with a huge fire and another 30 or so stories forcing all of their weight on those, eventually causing a collapse and domino effect.

IF AN ENTIRE SECTION OF THIS MOVIE IS COMPLETELY FALSE THEN WHY THE HELL SHOULD ANYONE TAKE THE OTHERS AT THEIR WORD?

At 7/9/07 10:20 PM, Truth wrote:

thats why people want to replace the federal income tax with the fairtax plan

And yet, years later, here we are in a progressive tax system with a federal income tax as the progressive's plan to suck money out of the rich, which failed.

At 7/10/07 01:35 AM, Calamaino wrote: A lot of those points were very correct, and every idiotic post left on this thread reinforces the correctness of it.

like when they tried to pass off information about horus that isn't really accepted as fact as truth and said world leaders actually give a shit about the north american union and said there's no legal obligation to pay the income tax? if you don't pay the income tax, the IRS isn't going to be happy. a lot of people have gotten in a lot of trouble for believing that bullshit

you're buying into right wing libertarian propaganda, and making a stupid mistake by trying to pass off politicians and businessmen as people who look at the future. they work for the short term. if you worry about the long term, you stay low level

I just listened to the firefighter getting smashed...and i have to say usually i don't get emotional, but it brought a tear to my eye.

I love canada

Well, it seems as if you people are opposite towards me.
Believe me, I hate Bush as much as the next guy, but I'm all for a world government.
It would greatly revolutionize the human race, all our cultures blending and such. We could much better requisition our resources, and our race would flourish.
I don't think how to better myself as a person, or better my city or country. I think of how to better the human race. How are we going to learn anything if we're fighting with one another.
What people, and when I say people, I mean every person who hates another ones culture because of one or a group of individual, need to understand is that we're all the same deep down. We are sentient organisms who evolved on a terran planet and have a double helix genetic structure. It's what we are.
And the reason that Bush favors Hitler so much is because of the secret organization called the skull & bones that him AND his father were in. But hell, so were half of the USA's founding fathers.

At 7/10/07 04:26 AM, ApotheosisLost wrote: but I'm all for a world government.

I am too, oh wait, it is going to be run by the people who attack themselves to engage warfare on a different country, even though they are secretly friends with them while the hard working people and civilians suffer.

At 7/10/07 04:41 AM, He-Who-Never-Was wrote:

I am too, oh wait, it is going to be run by the people who attack themselves to engage warfare on a different country, even though they are secretly friends with them while the hard working people and civilians suffer.

In the US, the middle class makes up for around 70% of the economy. I don't really see them "suffering".

At 7/4/07 03:22 AM, deafeningsilence5 wrote: At around 45:00, they talk about how the pilot of the one plane was a "terrible pilot" and he couldn't have flown the plane into the pentagon. Earlier in the movie, they talk about how none of the terrorists appeared on the manifest of any of the flights. But then it goes on and says that "Hanni Hanour" (sp?) was a terrible pilot and couldn't have done it. Either he was a terrible pilot and they know his name, or he didn't appear on the manifest. But you can't have both; it just doesn't work.

Someone may have already said something, but i will do it anyway. He was at a place where you could rent planes and fly them (he wanted to get his pilot license) and the instructor he was with said he couldn't fly for shit.

Watch Loose Change.

At 7/10/07 04:56 AM, He-Who-Never-Was wrote:

Someone may have already said something, but i will do it anyway. He was at a place where you could rent planes and fly them (he wanted to get his pilot license) and the instructor he was with said he couldn't fly for shit.

They only went through enough training to learn how to fly and ram into something.

You don't need to be "good" for that.

Watch Loose Change.

Screw Loose Change

At 7/10/07 05:17 AM, Memorize wrote: Screw Loose Change

I only said that because that is where they got their information from.

In any case, Loose Change aside. This video has gotten me shaking, i do not like starting Myspace shit but....

Then again people would watch all of 50 seconds of it and say it is boring, i have no faith in human intelligence and i hope i live and die before 60% of the population is gone.

Humans truly are the worse animals. Our gift was intelligence.....our downfall was intelligence and ignorance.

At 7/10/07 05:17 AM, Memorize wrote:

At 7/10/07 04:56 AM, He-Who-Never-Was wrote:

Someone may have already said something, but i will do it anyway. He was at a place where you could rent planes and fly them (he wanted to get his pilot license) and the instructor he was with said he couldn't fly for shit.

They only went through enough training to learn how to fly and ram into something.

You don't need to be "good" for that.

Watch Loose Change.

Screw Loose Change

There are alot of sites that say the hijackers did it.
there are even more sites that say the government covered it.
Scholars for truth

if you think the microchip idea wont happen...
approved for medical records
FDA approved

At 7/10/07 02:46 AM, Memorize wrote:

At 7/9/07 10:56 PM, g0t wrote:

The world trade centers were 30 year old buildings meant to be able to withstand a normal plane at that time. Not a Boeing 747 with a full tank of fuel to slam in to the center of the towers causing a massive explosion forcin

In this movie they interviewed (or atleast showed the interviews) of a few people who built the WTC, they said that the WTC was build to be able to handle multiple plane crashes before being destroyed. Also how did the 3rd building go down?

It wasn't hit by a plane

At 7/10/07 10:37 AM, CHRlST wrote:

In this movie they interviewed (or atleast showed the interviews) of a few people who built the WTC, they said that the WTC was build to be able to handle multiple plane crashes before being destroyed. Also how did the 3rd building go down?

It wasn't hit by a plane

according to FEMA, it was taken down by fire

What exactly is this Zetigeist?

At 7/10/07 10:41 AM, Truth wrote:

At 7/10/07 10:37 AM, CHRlST wrote:

In this movie they interviewed (or atleast showed the interviews) of a few people who built the WTC, they said that the WTC was build to be able to handle multiple plane crashes before being destroyed. Also how did the 3rd building go down?

It wasn't hit by a plane

according to FEMA, it was taken down by fire

Well I couldn't view any of the movies but it did say that's just a suggestion, with of course the theory of controlled demolition.

I still think it was a controlled demoltion, plus they commented on a lot of the alleged fire theory proving most of the things said wrong and adding with an altered graph of the Figure 5-10 Cantilever transfer girder detail.

what i didnt like was that the film only takes into account a really obscure version of the myth of horus for convenience sake; most accounts say he is the son of the gods osiris and isis, not isis as a virgin. he was first killed by seth in battle, not crucified. the egyptians had more than one sun god at different times but the dominant one is ra, the creator god.

At 7/10/07 10:37 AM, CHRlST wrote:

In this movie they interviewed (or atleast showed the interviews) of a few people who built the WTC, they said that the WTC was build to be able to handle multiple plane crashes before being destroyed. Also how did the 3rd building go down?

I believe I already explained how it happend, link provided.

But the real question here is: Why do so many of you fuck ups seem to think you know more than the architects and engineers who've all backed that they were sent crashing down by planes?

At 7/10/07 11:53 AM, Memorize wrote:

At 7/10/07 10:37 AM, CHRlST wrote:

In this movie they interviewed (or atleast showed the interviews) of a few people who built the WTC, they said that the WTC was build to be able to handle multiple plane crashes before being destroyed. Also how did the 3rd building go down?

I believe I already explained how it happend, link provided.

But the real question here is: Why do so many of you fuck ups seem to think you know more than the architects and engineers who've all backed that they were sent crashing down by planes?

some architects and engineers believe differently, link provided above.
But the real question is: Why do you care so much about something you dont even believe in?