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At 7/10/07 11:42 PM, Unimportant wrote:

and the popular mechanic guys kept being dicks about it, and, instead of answering the questions, repeatedly made fun of the other guys, relating them to Holocaust denouncers and saying "This is how conspiracies start".

One line stuck into my head in that video.

9/11 mysteries Kid: "These people claim to have heared a second explosion. How can there be another if 1 plane hit".

Oh. My. God. How stupid can you get?

First, let me ask this question: These people were in the building when the plane hit. Why should they be credible in hearing a second explosion when they're in the building that got hit.

Secondly, not only was there an explosion from the impact of the plane, but the explosion also blew its way down the main elevator causing an explosion on the first floor.

At 7/10/07 11:51 PM, Memorize wrote:

At 7/10/07 11:42 PM, Unimportant wrote:

and the popular mechanic guys kept being dicks about it, and, instead of answering the questions, repeatedly made fun of the other guys, relating them to Holocaust denouncers and saying "This is how conspiracies start".

One line stuck into my head in that video.

9/11 mysteries Kid: "These people claim to have heared a second explosion. How can there be another if 1 plane hit".

Oh. My. God. How stupid can you get?

First, let me ask this question: These people were in the building when the plane hit. Why should they be credible in hearing a second explosion when they're in the building that got hit.

Secondly, not only was there an explosion from the impact of the plane, but the explosion also blew its way down the main elevator causing an explosion on the first floor.

That may or may not be the case. If you've noticed, I've actually leaned away from talking about the twin towers themselves as a lot of it is hearsay. You have a bunch of people who heard another explosion. That could've been anything. Hell, it could've been nothing, they could've just had a hallucination brought on from stress. Hearsay.

What I do focus on is the falling of the 7th tower. That's what gets to me. Not hit by anything but debris and it's the farthest one away and yet goes down in seconds. It's just suspicious. Seeing as I don't have both sides of the argument (not really anyway), I can't say.

Looking back at the movie, however, there's another thing that got to me. Some of the "hijackers" are alive. Has anyone confirmed/denounced this? I haven't looked through this yet, and I honestly don't know; but if the government refuses to change their list and yet 6 (was it 6?) of the 19 hijackers "responsible" aren't dead...well that's really saying something. I know that they mentioned that the one headed at the Pentagon was (supposedly) a lousy pilot, but once more it's hearsay.

At 7/11/07 12:05 AM, Unimportant wrote:

At 7/10/07 11:51 PM, Memorize wrote:

At 7/10/07 11:42 PM, Unimportant wrote:

Looking back at the movie, however, there's another thing that got to me. Some of the "hijackers" are alive. Has anyone confirmed/denounced this? I haven't looked through this yet, and I honestly don't know; but if the government refuses to change their list and yet 6 (was it 6?) of the 19 hijackers "responsible" aren't dead...well that's really saying something. I know that they mentioned that the one headed at the Pentagon was (supposedly) a lousy pilot, but once more it's hearsay.

That got me aswell, I asked my father about this days ago and he had said that they had not been able to make it on the plane.

don't know why they didn't but still I don't believe that, he could've only heard that from the news so I'm pretty sure it's probably just another cover up of there own mistakes. Hell, but maybe they didn't make who knows.

aliens are the answer

At 7/11/07 12:05 AM, Unimportant wrote:

What I do focus on is the falling of the 7th tower. That's what gets to me. Not hit by anything but debris and it's the farthest one away and yet goes down in seconds. It's just suspicious. Seeing as I don't have both sides of the argument (not really anyway), I can't say.

We still have people getting killed for being blasted by the smoke from the falling towers.

Suspicious?

No. But saying it is makes about as much sense as saying the 7th tower couldn't have fallen.

There's this thing called physics. When the plane went crashing through the towers, do you think it just disappeared? The 7th tower might be furthest away, but it's not that far away. They're just exaggerating their point by saying, "OMG, HOW DID IT FALL, IT'S THE FURTHEST AWAY", while not even taking into account how far the debris went or how far the furthest tower was.

but if the government refuses to change their list and yet 6 (was it 6?) of the 19 hijackers "responsible" aren't dead...

Other Potential Hijackers: 27 attempted to enter, 19 participated.

19 are dead. But others were suppose to participate, but didn't.

well that's really saying something. I know that they mentioned that the one headed at the Pentagon was (supposedly) a lousy pilot, but once more it's hearsay.

Though he didn't necessarily "hit" the pentagon per se. He hit only some of the outer walls that surrounded the pentagon.

united states has got to be the most fucked up country in the world...

last post...

i dont kno wat to think right now...cuz i probably wouldnt give a shit about this if it were day time, iunno why...

gorge bush is a nazi...i knew that part

i always felt that 911 was a sorta staged thing

the chip thing seems impossible

poeple want so much power...for wat, wat is the point of it...to destroy lives? does killing tons of people making tons of people slaves, making people have no freedom in any way...does that make them happy?

At 7/11/07 01:26 AM, boobie246 wrote: last post...

i dont kno wat to think right now...cuz i probably wouldnt give a shit about this if it were day time, iunno why...

gorge bush is a nazi...i knew that part

i always felt that 911 was a sorta staged thing

the chip thing seems impossible

poeple want so much power...for wat, wat is the point of it...to destroy lives? does killing tons of people making tons of people slaves, making people have no freedom in any way...does that make them happy?

Well I don't want to make any absurd statements here but like the movie had a quote in it "With power comes corruption" or something along those lines. I mean, if someone has the ability to control the entire world, I doubt they wouldn't take that opportunity no matter their honest life style and beliefs.

THE END IS NIGH

At 7/10/07 11:42 PM, Unimportant wrote:

According to the video, there were absolutely no fire fighters in the building to pull...

congratulations. you're a dumbfuck who believes anything as long as it's pretty

At 7/10/07 11:42 PM, Unimportant wrote:

t's from is know to have injected their own material.

According to the video, there were absolutely no fire fighters in the building to pull...

Of course there would be firefighters in the building! Use common sense!

This is simply one source, but I think there should be more research on the subject of the 7th tower. I for one, had no idea it fell AT ALL until reading this thread and watching the movie. Seems suspicious that the farthest building from the tower sustained enough fire damage to knock it down in 7 seconds (especially considering it'd be the first steel skyscraper to fall under minor fires), and I was definitely alarmed after seeing the big crack down the middle which caused the building to implode on itself instead of fall over.

Neither you nor I know exactly how it collapsed, only what we're told. If most architects say that's their best guess, I'm gonna listen.

HOWEVER, I'm really only convinced because of the sources so far. I'd need to see the other side of the argument. So far I have only viewed the 9/11 mystery vs. popular mechanics debate (there was a link earlier in this thread), and the popular mechanic guys kept being dicks about it, and, instead of answering the questions, repeatedly made fun of the other guys, relating them to Holocaust denouncers and saying "This is how conspiracies start".

You should watch the "9/11 Mysteries Debunked" video. Search it on google. He shows you each lie that is told, and each sentence taken out of context.

It needs more investigation. I think you should at least agree that it's a bit fishy, no?

Well, that's the thing. If you look deeply enough into anything you're bound to find some "fishy" stuff, or at least things that appear fishy.

At 7/3/07 10:28 PM, CHRlST wrote:

At 7/3/07 10:23 PM, AshfordPride wrote: You trust a video made by an unknown person(s?) over elected officials?

I trust this one, it has a source page for everything it talks about, and a lot of news reporting footage, documentations, interviews etc.

Too all the non believers I say this, you didn't even watch the video so shut the fuck up.

I saw it. very interesting stuff...and I do believe most of the contents of part 3 will come to pass.

but hey, look at the bright side...eventually...an asteroid or some other cosmic disaster will wipe us all out in the blink of an eye.

I cant wait.

it'll take a bit longer than that

Is like the Loose Change video about how the government is fucking with us behind our backs
That shit was crazy.
Ill probably watch it when i get the time

I watched the entire damn thing.

I can honestly say that "Zeitgeist the Movie" is the most frightening, sickening, provoking, brilliant thing I have ever had the pleasure to watch. It almost makes me want to disappear from society and live apart from everything. However, I haven't completely decided which portions I believe are true, yet. I'm already biased that the "Chips" part, discussed throughout the ending of part three, is false. I have my own reasons for believing this. Although, I'm not positive if I believe that they're already placed in the new Passports, as stated in the movie, but I do know that they will not be installed into newborn infants, also stated in the movie. No sane man would even consider putting a "Chip," for tracking purposes or whatever, into an infant, or any regular human being, for that matter. The religion-ish part, part one, is very compelling, yet somewhat hard to believe. All religion and the bible being linked to the sun and the ages, definitely isn't a coincidence. Neither is the link between Christianity and the other religions mentioned in the movie. They're all so obvious now, but I find it all so hard to believe. Mostly because some of it supports the theory that Christianity, and some of my other beliefs, are false. Nonetheless, I believe it to a strict extent. I'd look into it further, but I probably wouldn't be able to find much more than they did, the creators or Zeitgeist. Call me crazy, but I may watch it again, to get a clearer understanding, regardless of the two-hour duration. Part two, was also extremely compelling. The 9/11 events make much more sense now. For the most part, I believe in this section. It's so hard to believe all this new information, though, it goes against much of what I've been taught and what the majority of the world was taught. But it makes almost perfect sense, in my eyes. I assume this is all information the supposed "Men Behind the Curtain" don't want the public to know about. Part three was where it was really very frightening. It's almost like the sad, vulgar realization of all life and afterlife, but there's really almost nothing we can do about it. According to the movie, the "Men Behind the Curtain" have given us the opportunity to create and use this very website. This, and all entertainment, such as movies, television broadcasts, music, computers, religion, etc. was allowed by them to keep us out of their way. Apparently, they plan to gradually unite the world as a single country under one ruler. Obviously, with knowing the information given in the movie, this will result in mass failure and destruction. I do believe this to a certain extent, also. This is a very vague description, though, so you will have to see it yourself. I'd have to learn more before I make my final decisions. I do think that if everyone believed the ENTIRE movie, 100%, we'd all be living in a state of sheer paranoia.

That's my extended opinion on this piece. I may be taking it to seriously, or just really gullible today. Regardless, this is only my insignificant opinion, you shouldn't have to flame me for this. Most of you probably won't even read it, considering this is the BBS. Not that it matters, though.

Moral is: if you have spare time, watch this movie. It could change your opinion of everything.

At 7/10/07 11:29 PM, deafeningsilence5 wrote:

At 7/10/07 10:23 PM, Truth wrote:

At 7/10/07 09:36 PM, Memorize wrote:

At 7/10/07 09:21 PM, Truth wrote:

planted on nearly every floor.

I didn't ask where the bombs were planted, so I'll ask again. Where are the explosions?

Don’t know what you mean.

and how come the owner of the building, Larry silverstein, said that the building was pulled.

Because 9/11 coincidences took his words out of context. He was talking about pulling the firefighters out. The video that's from is know to have injected their own material.

If you watched this video further, you would know that there would be no point in pulling out the firefighters. According to FEMA, they were out hours before it collapsed.

At 7/11/07 11:22 AM, Plastic-Phantom wrote: I watched the entire damn thing.

I'm not positive if I believe that they're already placed in the new Passports, as stated in the movie, but I do know that they will not be installed into newborn infants, also stated in the movie.

infants

I am not getting a shot at a doctors office, and if the government tries to force people to have the chip put in them i will go down a dead man.

At 7/11/07 11:54 AM, Truth wrote:

At 7/11/07 11:22 AM, Plastic-Phantom wrote: I watched the entire damn thing.

I'm not positive if I believe that they're already placed in the new Passports, as stated in the movie, but I do know that they will not be installed into newborn infants, also stated in the movie.

infants

I meant something like: "Forcibly installing into every living baby and enslave human race," sort of thing.

At 7/11/07 12:09 PM, Plastic-Phantom wrote:

At 7/11/07 11:54 AM, Truth wrote:

At 7/11/07 11:22 AM, Plastic-Phantom wrote: I watched the entire damn thing.

I'm not positive if I believe that they're already placed in the new Passports, as stated in the movie, but I do know that they will not be installed into newborn infants, also stated in the movie.

infants

I meant something like: "Forcibly installing into every living baby and enslave human race," sort of thing.

One step at a time, today, the majority hates the idea of having a microchip implanted in the human body. Your gonna have to wait until our society isn’t “secure” enough.

How RFID is being used today

lol i've seen this video before but i didn't know it had a name xD

the url was just a load of numbers

At 7/11/07 12:22 PM, Truth wrote: One step at a time, today, the majority hates the idea of having a microchip implanted in the human body. Your gonna have to wait until our society isn’t “secure” enough.

How RFID is being used today

That's just damn un-american.

Normally I would make a joke along the lines of "Ahh well, I'll be long dead before any of this totalitarian stuff comes into play" but I just can't.

I don't know how intelligent people in America can even sleep at night.

At 7/11/07 12:22 PM, Truth wrote:

At 7/11/07 12:09 PM, Plastic-Phantom wrote:

At 7/11/07 11:54 AM, Truth wrote:

At 7/11/07 11:22 AM, Plastic-Phantom wrote:

One step at a time, today, the majority hates the idea of having a microchip implanted in the human body. Your gonna have to wait until our society isn’t “secure” enough.

How RFID is being used today

I watched that and another video about the chips (Had O' Reily in it) and he was talking about how these chips can let you use a phone in your brain, surf the internet and all kinds of bullshit.

I am skeptical of that because the phone companies would lose a shit load of money, as with computers and internet service companies. I have a feeling to do that is just a load of shit and they want people to get the chips so they can be tracked and the like.

At 7/11/07 12:55 PM, TheAbominableMatt wrote:

I don't know how intelligent people in America can even sleep at night.

Because intelligent people are those who don't buy into this video's crap.

why are you idiots listening to o'reilly?

the chips relay medical information. technically someone could use it for identification purposes, but the government already has more information about you than you ever will. really the only danger that comes with implanting those chips is identity theft

ive pissed my pajamas, 4 nights in a row, and now my bed smells like piss cause of dis movie
it is that scary

At 7/11/07 01:15 PM, Memorize wrote: Because intelligent people are those who don't buy into this video's crap.

I can understand that you might be skeptical about the totalitarion dictatorship that it predicts at the end of the movie but Idon't see how you could deny the historical information presented to you.

... but then you do have your favourite president named in your signature so maybe you're just being blindly patriotic.

At 7/11/07 02:18 PM, TheAbominableMatt wrote:

I can understand that you might be skeptical about the totalitarion dictatorship that it predicts at the end of the movie but Idon't see how you could deny the historical information presented to you.

1/3 of the movie is rumor and speculation rather than factual.
1/3 of the movie is completely false.
1/3 of the movie is all based on speculation on something that we haven't yet the slightest clue how to control yet.

... but then you do have your favourite president named in your signature so maybe you're just being blindly patriotic.

Do you even know how Theodoore Roosevelt is?

Lincoln ran as a 3rd party candidate (republican) and become president. Theodore ran as a 3rd party candidate and got in 2nd place nearly beating the democratic candidate as well (he only lost because he was the President under a Republican ticket for 8 years (after the assassination of Mckinley).

Do you want to know who started the conservation movement? Theodore Roosevelt.
Do you want to know why we have warning labels? Theodore Roosevelt.
Do you want to know why unions can be formed and wages negotiated? Theodore Roosevelt.
Do you want to know why business can't monopolize? Theodore Roosevelt.

Yes! He surely wanted to screw over the American people between 1901-1909.

Don't open your mouth when you don't know what you're talking about.

I highly doubt the religion stuff is true. Unless someone has proof on all the dudes he was talking about.