London bomb plan failed

[Cheekyvincent]

In London 2day, there was a bomb in picadilly, which would have gone off if people never noticed smoke. They wanted it to go off at a nightclub.

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i bet they wanted to have it on the 2nd day of gordon brown as PM...

Who do you think did it?

It has all the signatures of a Muslim bomb, and I remember reading about Muslim extremists and their hatred of things like nightclubs (though I can't really remember where or when).

While this looks like a Muslim work, there are other options to consider and if it is Muslims, we must remember that not all Muslims are evil bombers.

[Cheekyvincent]

At 6/29/07 01:30 PM, Scarab-Stalk33r wrote: It has all the signatures of a Muslim bomb, and I remember reading about Muslim extremists and their hatred of things like nightclubs (though I can't really remember where or when).

it may be copied from israel but you cant say that but muslims dont like consumption of alcohol and partying- looking at a woman in a lustful manner can be considered as adultery

[Proteas]

Would it be to much of a coincedance to point out that this also happened on the new Prime Minister's first or second day on the job?

That's one hell of a welcome gift, I'm sure he would have appreciated a fruit basket instead.

[Draconias]

At 6/29/07 03:38 PM, Proteas wrote: That's one hell of a welcome gift, I'm sure he would have appreciated a fruit basket instead.

It was obviously an attempt to make him look weak and put him off on a bad footing in fighting against terrorism. It's exactly what they did to the Spanish-- an attempt to scare the politicians and people into backing down to "protect themselves" from terrorism by hiding. However, they were foiled and this will give the PM and others more justification and support for fighting against terrorism.

[LegendaryLukus]

It is likely that it was to welcome Brown as PM. If they wanted to mark the second anniversary of the London Bombings, they don't know much about parking a car in London, there's no way it'd last until 7th July.

Who knows, maybe the police have just disarmed somebody's DIY shopping.

[Sarai]

My offices are near Tiger Tiger which is the nightclub where the first bomb was found. The second one was near a training venue that I've used before and was at last week.

Three of my friends were in Tiger Tiger, but left about 1am. I am not sure when that car was left there, but maybe they even walked past it... They are very lucky, we are all very lucky as no damage has yet been caused.

It's possible that other devices exist however. In addition we are not sure whether it's Islamist extreme terrorirsts, the Irish, or other groups. However due to the nature of the weapon (a crude combination of gas tanks, petrol and nails) it is likely that the bombers are home-grown again.

Note that this wasn't a suicide attack, another indicator perhaps against extreme Islam in the form of Al-Q. It is more likely that perhaps some disaffected young Islamic men are involved, but I don't think we can draw conclusions of race or religion just yet. The different factors are confusing.

Still, I am glad I wasn't out last night. But more importantly, I am glad my friends are ok and London is undamaged.

[Cheekyvincent]

WOW they found a second one which was linked to it

[SuperDeagle]

Perhaps the bombs were not meant to go off?
Maybe it's nothing more than a distraction to make an opening for the true intentions of the plotter?

[Sarai]

At 6/29/07 06:23 PM, SuperDeagle wrote: Perhaps the bombs were not meant to go off?
Maybe it's nothing more than a distraction to make an opening for the true intentions of the plotter?

Risky. They will have left lots of forensic evidence and will be on CCTV as well. In addition the first device was already breached, IE the gas canisters were leaking to build pressure. IF they'd managed to remote detonate some of the petrol canisters the force of the explosion might have detonated the rest of the sealed gas canisters.

Scary stuff.

[2r0x0rs4you]

jesus CHRIST.

[DingoTheDog]

It would ne nice to see the media give the Metropolitan Police some credit for a change.

As for the bombers, if they are caught I think a nice painful death is justified. Planting it outside a nightclub and filling it with nails, they dont deserve the air they breath.

[SmilezRoyale]

give the police credit? are you insane?

[Demosthenez]

At 6/29/07 01:30 PM, Scarab-Stalk33r wrote: (though I can't really remember where or when).

Bali Bombing in like 04 hit a nightclub. Killed a bunch of Aussies. Just killed a bunch of people, actually.

[LiveBreatheTom]

the kind of interesting part was if i remember right, the bombs were rigged to go off when called with a cell phone but failed. And one of the cars was actually towed before they noticed a bomb was in it.

Its a bit of a releif to know they didnt work and go off, its always a horrible ordeal afterwards.

[TheSovereign]

Islamic extremists.

[Gopzap]

I'm a Muslim and I'm sick of people just jumping into conclusions like that. It's ignorant that people are just posting 'Muslim extremists', when they don't even know.

And to be honest, Al-Qaeda is gay. The most they accomplish is giving Muslims a bad reputation.

Just wait for the police to find some more information, then we'll see.

[Cheekyvincent]

At 6/29/07 08:31 PM, DingoTheDog wrote: It would ne nice to see the media give the Metropolitan Police some credit for a change.

wot the ones that shoot an innocent man and don't get charged except for health and safety precautions?

At 6/30/07 04:28 AM, Gopzap wrote: And to be honest, Al-Qaeda is gay.

isn't that against the Muslim religion?

[Tri-Nitro-Toluene]

At 6/30/07 06:35 AM, Cheekyvincent wrote: wot the ones that shoot an innocent man and don't get charged except for health and safety precautions?

The same ones who have a just saved God know show many lives in the past day or so, and have in fact dealt with other terrorist plots before they came to fruition.

The fact that people still refuse to get over Charles De Menzies death is rather sad. Yes he died when he shouldn't have. Yes the Met got mixed up soemwhere, but I think the hundreds of lives they have saved since then more than makes up for it as I can recall at least 2 other plots that have ended up with people in court for terrorist actions as a result of police action.

The shooting of Charles DeMenzies was sad and unfortunate. However, it wasn't like it was a wanton killing for the sake of it, the officers at the time were faced with a situation where they thought it was either kill, or be killed, with the be killed entailing the deaths of dozens of others as well. They did what they thought was best and what they were instructed to do. Why that is held against them is beyond me.

The fact that these people are willing to put their lives on the line to protect the people of Britain means they should have our thanks, not our scourn.

[D2Kvirus]

I don't believe it was aimed at Tiger Tiger in Picadilly: it crashed into a dustbin, then the driver ran for it. If anything, it was possibly aimed at today's Gay Pride march headed that way. Or towards Connaught Square. *ahem*

Still, there were two devices (i.e. another reason to believe it wasn't aimed at a nightclub), and another was discovered and diffused, and neither went off, you get the feeling Gordon Brown was feeling a bit smug - after all, Tony got bombed, Gordon didn't.

Lastly, out anti-terror unit are named COBRA? It sounds like Bond Villains are in charge there.

[Gopzap]

At 6/30/07 06:35 AM, Cheekyvincent wrote: isn't that against the Muslim religion?

No. Al-Qaeda themselves are against Muslim religion. They're doing exactly the opposite of what you're not allowed to do in Islam, killing people like that isn't allowed. They think they're doing a good thing, but they aren't.

[Tri-Nitro-Toluene]

At 6/30/07 08:42 AM, D2Kvirus wrote: Lastly, out anti-terror unit are named COBRA? It sounds like Bond Villains are in charge there.

It kind of epitomises almost everything that was wrong under Blair. Catchy name.. no content.

Mind you, I rather COBRA than ' civil contingencies committee'. At least COBRA makes it sound impressive and at least gives the appearance of being good at what they do. The other just makes them sound like a bunch of suits with briefcases and a large collection of stamps collected as a hobby that deals with planning permission.

[Sarai]

And now we have an attack at Glasgow airport.

But they failed again.

Good.

[D2Kvirus]

At 6/30/07 10:17 AM, Tri-Nitro-Toluene wrote:

At 6/30/07 08:42 AM, D2Kvirus wrote: Lastly, out anti-terror unit are named COBRA? It sounds like Bond Villains are in charge there.

It kind of epitomises almost everything that was wrong under Blair. Catchy name.. no content.

What does it stand for? Cabinet Office Briefing Room A. Almost as if they added the last letter to make it sound good, because COBR looks dumb. Still, it isn't as bad as renaming the environmental protection department DEFRA during a Foot & Mouth outbreak. Tactful!

Still, that's one up[ on Thatcherism: Windscale nuclear power plant leaking? Well, better rename it Sellafield and nobody will notice...

Mind you, I rather COBRA than ' civil contingencies committee'. At least COBRA makes it sound impressive and at least gives the appearance of being good at what they do. The other just makes them sound like a bunch of suits with briefcases and a large collection of stamps collected as a hobby that deals with planning permission.

I keep thinking of Captain Scarlet when I hear their name, though.

But the dumb thin is their name is COBR, but the "A" was added after a similar group was used in words of fiction (in Scorpia, one of the Alex Rider books, as well as episodes of Spooks and The Amazing Mrs. Pritchard), and it stuck.

What next, the Committee for the Liberation & Intergration of Terrifying Organisms & their Rehabilitation Into Society?

[Cheekyvincent]

At 6/30/07 01:20 PM, D2Kvirus wrote: But the dumb thin is their name is COBR, but the "A" was added after a similar group was used in words of fiction (in Scorpia, one of the Alex Rider books, as well as episodes of Spooks and The Amazing Mrs. Pritchard), and it stuck.

both very true

whats going on, are they trying to do terrorist attacks- just earlier this
happened resulting in this.
Terrorist attack or accident? i finally agree that it probably was a muslim attack

me jumping to conclusions again

[D2Kvirus]

The Glasgow thing may well be a coincidence - the car was on fire, which isn't as much a suicide bomb as a slight case of a car being on fire, and certainly doesn't match the MO of the earlier cars non-bombs in London. In fact, by being in another country, and at an airport rather than what would be a largely pedestrianised area, it doesn't add up.

If nothing else, if you were aiming for an airport in the UK, you aim for Gatwick or Heathrow first, or if you don't feel up to it Stanstead.

Something about it reminds me of the plane that crashed in Queens a couple of weeks after 9/11, where the news broadcasters went mad to cover the story in great detail, even when it was pretty bloody clear it was an accident from an early stage.

I've never seen BBC return to scheduled programming so apologetically - OK, maybe after Forest Gate...

[HighlyIllogical]

This plot certainly provides PM Brown with impetus to step up security, that's for sure.

[Sarai]

At 6/30/07 01:59 PM, D2Kvirus wrote: The Glasgow thing may well be a coincidence -

Well two asian guys aiming for the door of an airport and then throwing petrol around. Maybe they're jsut stupid, but they're still terrorists.

[Cheekyvincent]

At 6/30/07 01:59 PM, D2Kvirus wrote: The Glasgow thing may well be a coincidence - the car was on fire, which isn't as much a suicide bomb as a slight case of a car being on fire

and it just had to near an airport and coincedently crash into the terminal

and certainly doesn't match the MO of the earlier cars non-bombs in London

actually, they couldn't park it coz ithey couldn't possibly park outside an airport but thats a good point

In fact, by being in another country, and at an airport rather than what would be a largely pedestrianised area, it doesn't add up.

airport= packed and people will panic much more.

If nothing else, if you were aiming for an airport in the UK, you aim for Gatwick or Heathrow first, or if you don't feel up to it Stanstead.

maybe they didn't like the scottish coz they're publically nakid (quilts) and also, heathrow and gatwick have ultra ultra ultra tight security since yestarday. also, no one likes stanstead

i dont anyway

[D2Kvirus]

At 6/30/07 03:26 PM, Cheekyvincent wrote:

At 6/30/07 01:59 PM, D2Kvirus wrote: The Glasgow thing may well be a coincidence - the car was on fire, which isn't as much a suicide bomb as a slight case of a car being on fire

and it just had to near an airport and coincedently crash into the terminal

Cars crash every day. True, they don't catch fire beforehand...

and certainly doesn't match the MO of the earlier cars non-bombs in London

actually, they couldn't park it coz ithey couldn't possibly park outside an airport but thats a good point

It's also worth noting that there are bollards outside Gatwick and Heathrow so cars can't get that close...but anyone with a bomb strapped to them can get a good head of steam up and rush into departures and set it off.

In fact, by being in another country, and at an airport rather than what would be a largely pedestrianised area, it doesn't add up.

airport= packed and people will panic much more.

I personally would've taken a leaf out of the IRA's handbook: major railway stations are a better target.

If nothing else, if you were aiming for an airport in the UK, you aim for Gatwick or Heathrow first, or if you don't feel up to it Stanstead.

maybe they didn't like the scottish coz they're publically nakid (quilts) and also, heathrow and gatwick have ultra ultra ultra tight security since yestarday. also, no one likes stanstead

i dont anyway

I'm also now thinking that the Bl;airite quotas on pass rates has now been placed on Terror U: what self respecting terrorist would set fire to the car they were in while they were still driving it?!? That makes it quite hard to aim toward you target and, even if they were throwiung petrol around...it was outside the damn airport, so once the fire brigade had doused the flames and hauled the hulk out of the way, it was f'n pointless.

Similarly, surely it's iin the curriculum that, if you have a bomb in your car, for God's sake look where you're driving because if you lose control and hit some dustbins, you've wasted your device like a right pillock.

Still, it beats trying to make out hyrogen peroxide and ghepatti flour could make a crude fertilizer bomb. The point they showed footage of a fertilizer bomb blowing up in court in that trial and said the same could be done with those ingredients should've seen the case thrown out and the guy put in a psyche ward...