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The KKK is anti-everyone who is not white and christian.

They hate some more than others, and it depends on who and what you are, and to what degree.

At 6/13/03 09:37 AM, TheShrike wrote:

The part ebout genetics and all is probably true, but it's funny how black people have this feeling of "brotherhood" and stuff, which you see in all the movies ( well, most) depicting black people. They seem to have mucho solidarity and all, which might actually get in the way of truth when one person who's too "brotherly" takes it one step further and tries to abuse it.
I mean, it's a good principle, but since black people are much like white people, someone will have to abuse it and give the rest a bad name.

To support this, I think rap wouldn't be nearly so popular if it didn't suit a dual service to white youths. What dual service? Young white kids can help alliviate the guilt from 300 years by imersing themselves in 'black culture'. Teens also need rebelion. it helps them assert their personality. So they listen to and buy rap music, which their parents probably don't like.

I just don't think rap would be so popular if it were invented 300 years in the future. But what do I know about the future? I'm basing all this off of the past, anyway.

Ah, you brought up rap music. Rap is kinda not even music, just some words.. it's weird. And I don't think white kids loving rap has any thing to do with the past because, I think it has to do with the fact that they don't feel guilty at all and that they can simply do what thery want with who they want, regardless of color.
And I think rap music might have been invented earlier than we think. Maybe in africa or something. But I'm not a music expert or anything, so I have no idea at all.

But all of this still doesn't explain why black people are the only ones to make such a big deal about racism even though they are only making it worst by doing so and they are keeping us in a context of racial hate. I mean, if they would simply stop bringing it up, we'd never talk about racism, and then we'd all get along. As I've said, I think they are mostly using the past to justify the present.

At 6/12/03 11:04 PM, poxpower wrote: Stop talking about 300 of slavery bullshit, it has NOTHING to do with how black people should act/be treated today in america. Live in the present and stop founding your arguments on the wrongs of people who are all long dead.

Hey first off its complete and total bullshit to tell someone to forget and expereience like that. And have you ever thought that the reason black people are so out spoken against racism is because were afraid of this happening again. And those people arre not long dead as long as we have groups of people that lash out and hate other groups because there skin is another fucking color were always gonna be playing the race card and you and I may not like that but its the ttuth.

Also, I did NEVER say that all blacks, notr even that majority, are loud and everything. It's once again an immature reaction, and I'm tired to have to say "but of course I'm not generalizing" in every post I make. You guys should know better dammit.

No bodies saying that but its people like you that make me hate being black i swear.

Now, I uses one example from a movie to show how black people seem to react towards white people who don't agree with them. There are TONS of examples liek that on tv and in some b movies and crap like that, and ONLY black people do that, never ASIANS.
Sorry, but I think that means something. And don't reply "no" cause that's not an argument and I'll put my ignore cap on.

First off Never and Only are two words that should never be used when describing something because there ALWAYS wrong. And don't you realize that the hollywood sterotypes of blacks are wrong I mean, your seeing those people for whats there paid to do. Martin Lawerence is paid to be a loud black guy i mean hes a fucking comedian. Would you rather he got up on stage and wisper his jokes out to you?

Now, about the genetic part, I think that if it has some role to play, it's extremely minor, so let that go, that's not my main argument dammit.

Fine

Now, it seems to me that the black community had a tendency to stick out against racism or something, they overdo it sometimes, and play the "racism" card whenever they are threatened by white people.

Would you rather us just sit down and take it like we did in the 60 would that really make you feel better to see hordes of black beaten by cops hung by racist biggots. And i have not seen ther person yet that when there threatened don't push back.

So anyways, let's go at it again.

FACT: Polpular belief seems to suggest that the black people are the only ones who white people are being racist too. I never heard the Asian community whine or constantly stand up to implement "asian" right.

Well seeing as have not read every single claim of racism that comes out it the media as you have i cannot make any statement against this.

So, the question is, why? Are white people really always mean to black people like that? Is it that Asian are as victimized but don't talk about it? Is it that the american black culture is actually more annoying than the asian minority?

No and it would be foolish to believe that white people are out to get us. And yes i do believe its because the asians are victimised and don't talk about it. i think you said it best "Is it that the american black culture is actually more annoying than the asian minority?" So a race of people is annoying in your humble opinion now do you see why some people feel that racism will never die.

My guess: Black people seem to be associated with higer crime rate. These same people are also racist ( like in Die Hard) and try to get away with it by playing the racism card. ANd this is combined with some black "patriots" who stand up for black right when the need is not there, thus creating more racism ( like that america accpepts black judges thing).

Ugh you really have no clue do you? Yes it is true that a very small group of blacks are dumb enough to get so caught up in racism that they become racist themselves. So your saying that blacks just scream racism to get there way actually........ i fully agree with that. Anyway so standing up for your rights and being a "patriot" as you put it is wrong i would hate to live in your world my friend.

Now, UNDERSTAND THAT: I'm not saying a majority contrubute to this, in fact it's probably much less that 10%, I'm not sayin the asian people are less involved in criminal activities, or white people for that matter, I'm just sayin that only the black people seem to talk about racism.

Ahh the paragraph were he discredits everything he says so he does'nt worry people will call him a racist i was wondering when this was coming. And i believe the Asian are less outspoken because theres is a culture that accepted more amount society i mean there the only group of people with positive sterotypes the "Good at Math asian" "the Karate/judisu/Taekdo Asian" I'm serious all the positive sterotypes with blacks have to do with entertainment.

Damn, too tired I'll continue this later.

Looking forward to it

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At 6/9/03 12:09 AM, Jlop985 wrote: I think it is because stereotypically Asians are regarded as the "model minority."

yes sterotyping is the problem - but year by year the races continue mixing in the great meltingpot called Human Life.

..we need to reduce religeous and economic imbalance while promoting ethnic mixing.

** gets off soapbox **

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heheheh Booya!

At 6/13/03 11:42 AM, DarkBlueFlame wrote:

The past should not be forgotten but should not determine present acts, that is why the KKK are a bunch of morons and that is also why black people who use the "we was persecuted" thing are also morons who can't deal with the fact that they did something wrong.

No bodies saying that but its people like you that make me hate being black i swear.

Really. is it. The reason why I'm upset sometimes, is because on the news, I hear some black people, ALWAYS black people claim they were victimized because of their color, as other minorities either don't make a big deal about it or know when they are wrong.
I'm not racist dammit, and if I see a black person in the street I'm not going to act differently, but when I see some black guy on the news claimed racist actions where taken towards him by some cops who arrested him because he was doing some petty crime on te street, I'll know he's just whining and unsing the past to get away with whatever crime he did.

And don't you realize that the hollywood sterotypes of blacks are wrong I mean, your seeing those people for whats there paid to do. Martin Lawerence is paid to be a loud black guy i mean hes a fucking comedian.

Are they. Just because you are not one of those people, it doesn't mean they don't exist and that there aren't plenty of them. I don't know Martin Lawrence in person, so I can't tell you how he really is, but I'm a 100% sure there are a lot of REAL loud black guys who use racism as an excuse.

Would you rather us just sit down and take it like we did in the 60 would that really make you feel better to see hordes of black beaten by cops hung by racist biggots. And i have not seen ther person yet that when there threatened don't push back.

So you say the black people still feel threatened?? I think not, and the fact that they continue to "stick together against the evil white power" will only contribute to make them feel threatened and alienated, regardless of the past. BTW, they also act like that in canada, and we never had anything to do with the whole Martin Luther King Jr. kind of thing. Some people are just cashing in on that.

Well seeing as have not read every single claim of racism that comes out it the media as you have i cannot make any statement against this.

Not the point. The point is, I only hear about the black being persecuted, and that "black man killed by white cops" is pure gold and most likely, pure bullshit. The media know that the black community ( again, not tha majority, just those few people who feel like they have to make a ruckus every time a black person is arrested by white people and shit like that).

"Is it that the american black culture is actually more annoying than the asian minority?" So a race of people is annoying in your humble opinion now do you see why some people feel that racism will never die.

Alright, is my opinion, or it is the truth. Obviously, you don't think it is the truth, but I think that ( again, a MINORITY) of black people are louder and more prone to pointless whining and use of racism.

Ugh you really have no clue do you? Yes it is true that a very small group of blacks are dumb enough to get so caught up in racism that they become racist themselves. So your saying that blacks just scream racism to get there way actually........ i fully agree with that. Anyway so standing up for your rights and being a "patriot" as you put it is wrong i would hate to live in your world my friend.

That's what I said ><. Probably much less than 10%. And those people don't stand up for their right, they just whine to get their way dammit. In some cases, yes, there is racism, and they have to stand up against it, but other times, there is no racism, and it's just a coïcidence that a black man was attacked by a white guy. I mean, did you ever hear " white guy beaten by black gang". No. But I'm sure it happens.

And i believe the Asian are less outspoken because theres is a culture that accepted more amount society i mean there the only group of people with positive sterotypes the "Good at Math asian" "the Karate/judisu/Taekdo Asian" I'm serious all the positive sterotypes with blacks have to do with entertainment.

That is true. And I think that this positive stereotipe contribute to the image that they are winners, because who says comedian says "loud" and modern comedy also has a lot to do with whining ( both black AND white, in case you were ready to jump at me because I didn't specify ever sentence I made).

*sigh*
First off, is it true or not that the black community has a reputation of being loud and whine about how they are persecuted? I think they do, and I think it applies to a very small percentage.

When we agree or disagree on that, which is the whole issue of the debate, then we can continue, of you don't agree that they do have this reputation, then we must agree to disagree.

BTW, I hope you're not having any hard feelings towards me about that, and I would be extremely pissed that you think I'm a racist because of that debate.

At 6/13/03 11:24 AM, poxpower wrote:

At 6/13/03 03:19 AM, nitroxide wrote:

stuff some random nutcases did to black people either by accident or by racism

Those things probably happen to every race, but see how big a deal it's become because of skin color? ( well, I don't know all about what's your reporting here, but I'm assuming the perpetrators were white and the victims were black or something).

Four years later a white man named Ken Tillery, hitched a ride in Jasper, Texas. He was given a lift by four black men who then murdered him. Like Byrd.
It does happen but most are in direct retaliation to incidents that have occured.

There's probably much worse things that happen, but because news crew know that when a black person is involved it will get them publicity and fame and whatnot they don't report it as frontpage news.That's sad.

The KKK is really an embarassing thing really, but depsite their many evil plans and whatnot, do they actually cause that much of a ruckus? Enough to justify that habbit of using the word "racist" all the time. Maybe that's another reason black people talk about racism; the KKK's existence.

Yes they do cause ruckus...

Among the reported acts of intimidation was the threat to blow up a housing unit to prevent its integration; residents of the project additionally alleged that the White Camellia Knights carried automatic weapons on a bus they drove through the housing complex and that one Klan member offered white children $50 to beat up African-American children.

The Christian Knights of the Ku Klux Klan: Formed in 1985 by Virgil Griffin and based in Mount Holly, North Carolina. The Christian Knights are active in North and South Carolina, Kentucky and Tennessee. A suspect in two June 1995 arsons of predominately Black South Carolina churches-part of an apparent epidemic of church arsons occurring throughout the country since January 1995-carried a card identifying him as a member of the Christian Knights.

Click on the ruckus for more Ruckus.

And why the hell isn't there some kind of KKK to hate the Asian people anyways? Why do they hate black people so much? Maybe there is some sort of anti-asian crew somewhere. who knows.

They dont only hate blacks,its about white supremacy and that goes agains all...blacks,jews,asian, hispanic.

It is a sad fact that a much higher number of black children than white grow up at a social disadvantage and are more tempted to break society's rules.That is why most,actually 64% make up the prison system although they are only 12% of the american population.

ooops i meant 46% of the prison system.

That's the second half of my theory, or maybe the other reason we hear about black "persecussion". I live in Canada, and I know that in Montreal, which is a mini NYC, we have a pletora of black immigrants, and they cause a lot of trouble, and it has nothing to do with their color, but with their social background. And again, they love to play the racism card to try and get away with it.

No they do that because they can play the "neglegent government" card.Blacks are only 12% of the American population, in a recent year they comprised 56% of the arrests for murder, 42% of the arrests for rape, 61% of the arrests for robbery, 39% of the arrests for aggravated assault, 31% of the arrests for burglary, 33% of the arrests for larceny and 40% of the arrests for motor-vehicle theft. Also 46% of state prison inmates—i.e., those actually convicted of crimes—were black (another 17% were Hispanic).

But they cant say its because there born into a lifestyle that wont take them nowhere...do you wonder why the youth shows no interest in school.This government is to busy dealing with problems across the sea when we have many right here.

At 6/13/03 12:58 PM, nitroxide wrote:

Yeah, KKK are a bunch of nutjobs. I guess they feel alone and need a club or something. But I don't think they are the main reason black have a bad image ( again, it's only some black who give them that image and even if I think that the black people have that bad image, I will never jugde a stranger by that ever and I wish I knew more black people so I could be friends with. In real life, I go to class with one black person and I have a very good relation with her)

And why the hell isn't there some kind of KKK to hate the Asian people anyways? Why do they hate black people so much? Maybe there is some sort of anti-asian crew somewhere. who knows.

They dont only hate blacks,its about white supremacy and that goes agains all...blacks,jews,asian, hispanic.

Really.. then if that is so, why do they mostly carry out acts agains the black people and if not, why don't we hear about the other stuff they do to jews and spanish and non-christian..
In any case, they're nuts and their actions don't have to be rational i guess.

No they do that because they can play the "neglegent government" card.Blacks are only 12% of the American population, in a recent year they comprised 56% of the arrests for murder, 42% of the arrests for rape, 61% of the arrests for robbery, 39% of the arrests for aggravated assault, 31% of the arrests for burglary, 33% of the arrests for larceny and 40% of the arrests for motor-vehicle theft. Also 46% of state prison inmates—i.e., those actually convicted of crimes—were black (another 17% were Hispanic).

But they cant say its because there born into a lifestyle that wont take them nowhere...do you wonder why the youth shows no interest in school.This government is to busy dealing with problems across the sea when we have many right here.

Trus, the governement doesn't put money in the right places, and that probably plays a big part in "forcing" black people to go ghetto. But I think they both play the "governement doesn't care about us" and the racism card in that case. I mean, some are trying to say that since more black people are in prison that the percentage, there is racism involved. Like you, I think it had to do with the lifestyle to which they are almost forced.
( again not majority don't generalize blablabla)

At 6/13/03 12:52 PM, poxpower wrote:

At 6/13/03 11:42 AM, DarkBlueFlame wrote:

The past should not be forgotten but should not determine present acts, that is why the KKK are a bunch of morons and that is also why black people who use the "we was persecuted" thing are also morons who can't deal with the fact that they did something wrong.

But the fact is today that were still persecuted to a much less extent mind you but its still very much there. And calling people morons because they can't come to terms with something that happened is going to help anyone.

Really. is it. The reason why I'm upset sometimes, is because on the news, I hear some black people, ALWAYS black people claim they were victimized because of their color, as other minorities either don't make a big deal about it or know when they are wrong.

Man were do you live because here is all ways the Arabic people that are shouting about how people are mistreating them. Other minorites make a big deal out of being victimised its just the black communitiy has a stronger voice and for some reason people are more willing to listen if a black guy scream about racism other than a PuertoRican guy.

I'm not racist dammit, and if I see a black person in the street I'm not going to act differently, but when I see some black guy on the news claimed racist actions where taken towards him by some cops who arrested him because he was doing some petty crime on te street, I'll know he's just whining and unsing the past to get away with whatever crime he did.

Man you need to ride with me in a car if i gett pulled over by the cops for speeding its awhole other situation theres no "let me see your license and registration" its get out of the car and puts your hands on the hood" the he goes even further by saying shit like "you have any marijuana or any other illegal drugs in your car sir any weapons or anything i should know about?"

So what your saying is anytime a black person says anything about racism they have to prove to you first that it was racism and then you will not consider them as whinners. If it really bothers you that much then then don't watch the new move some were the minority population is like 2%.

Are they. Just because you are not one of those people, it doesn't mean they don't exist and that there aren't plenty of them. I don't know Martin Lawrence in person, so I can't tell you how he really is, but I'm a 100% sure there are a lot of REAL loud black guys who use racism as an excuse.

Ok and some white people are Drunken Ignorant hicks that can't accept that the worlds changing but do i get pissd every time someone claims "Reverse Racism" against a white person? No. Do i see them as Whinners and complainers? No.

So you say the black people still feel threatened?? I think not, and the fact that they continue to "stick together against the evil white power" will only contribute to make them feel threatened and alienated, regardless of the past. BTW, they also act like that in canada, and we never had anything to do with the whole Martin Luther King Jr. kind of thing. Some people are just cashing in on that.

I think so Blacks feel that most people think like you do that were just lazy good for nothings that just scream racism and steal. And as long as there are people that think that way were always gonna be scared.

So your saying that anyone that is a racist has nothing to do with Canada that there are nooo racist in Canada that you all except blacks as fucntioning members of society? Damn i need to move to Canada if thats the case.

Not the point. The point is, I only hear about the black being persecuted, and that "black man killed by white cops" is pure gold and most likely, pure bullshit. The media know that the black community ( again, not tha majority, just those few people who feel like they have to make a ruckus every time a black person is arrested by white people and shit like that).

You only hear about the black being persicuted against because thats were the news is see really your problem is'nt with blacks screaming racism its the media running to cover a story every time racism is declared from a black person.

Alright, is my opinion, or it is the truth. Obviously, you don't think it is the truth, but I think that ( again, a MINORITY) of black people are louder and more prone to pointless whining and use of racism.

Again like i said you need to meet more black people my freind.

I mean, did you ever hear " white guy beaten by black gang". No. But I'm sure it happens.

Yes i heard of that of that many time and i never dismissed the claim as the guy whinning or complaining.

That is true. And I think that this positive stereotipe contribute to the image that they are winners, because who says comedian says "loud" and modern comedy also has a lot to do with whining ( both black AND white, in case you were ready to jump at me because I didn't specify ever sentence I made).

True

*sigh*
First off, is it true or not that the black community has a reputation of being loud and whine about how they are persecuted? I think they do, and I think it applies to a very small percentage.

Ok but why are you complain about that small percentage that like if i had a problem with all KK ahh *touche*

When we agree or disagree on that, which is the whole issue of the debate, then we can continue, of you don't agree that they do have this reputation, then we must agree to disagree.

I disagree the blacks have no right to be still holding on to the ppast thats something you can never forget man. I Agree that so blacks present a negative image out to the public I.e your "loud black" issue.

BTW, I hope you're not having any hard feelings towards me about that, and I would be extremely pissed that you think I'm a racist because of that debate.

Not really i like that you can spark an intellegent conversation without belittling the person your arguing against. And no i don't think your a racist i just think you need more experience around black people.

poxpower you are basing all your assertions on assumptions. you are the ultimate media child. you get fed everything the media is telling you and digesting it as truth.

i've said it before and i will say it again. to understand racism is to become a victim of it yourself. quite frankly you are taking your truth against the experience of a black man and an asian man, namely DarkBlueFlame and myself. i am more than willing to share my experiences with you but you keep playing your media trump card time and time again. perhaps a different approach into the matter. perhaps asking a black and an asian man what they feel to paint a better picture for yourself and for the real world.

At 6/13/03 01:43 PM, mysecondstar wrote: poxpower you are basing all your assertions on assumptions. you are the ultimate media child. you get fed everything the media is telling you and digesting it as truth.

i've said it before and i will say it again. to understand racism is to become a victim of it yourself. quite frankly you are taking your truth against the experience of a black man and an asian man, namely DarkBlueFlame and myself. i am more than willing to share my experiences with you but you keep playing your media trump card time and time again. perhaps a different approach into the matter. perhaps asking a black and an asian man what they feel to paint a better picture for yourself and for the real world.

AMEN!!, there you got a black man and a Asian man you want to here about our experience about racism just ask. Maybe you will understand if you hear about our brushes with igonorance.

Ultimate media child...
That one is going down in the books!

At 6/13/03 02:05 PM, TheShrike wrote: Ultimate media child...
That one is going down in the books!

another memorable moment made possible by mysecondstar.

BOOYA

At 6/13/03 01:42 PM, DarkBlueFlame wrote:

*sigh*
First off, is it true or not that the black community has a reputation of being loud and whine about how they are persecuted? I think they do, and I think it applies to a very small percentage.

Ok but why are you complain about that small percentage that like if i had a problem with all KK ahh *touche*

I don't care that much, and they don't bother me, it's just a remark that I was making so we'd have some think to talk about. If anything, I'm the oposite of a media child, or more, I tend to try and convince myself of the contrary of what they say. Ii I was really a media child, I'd say "black people are persecuted all the time for ne reson at all".

I disagree the blacks have no right to be still holding on to the ppast thats something you can never forget man. I Agree that so blacks present a negative image out to the public I.e your "loud black" issue.

Good. then now that we agree on that, we must find the cause of that image. And also, see what is the difference between that image and the image of the Asian people.
Now, let's agree on the image these two cultures project.

Black: It seems to me that ( a minority) they tend to constantly bring racism and persecution up to get away with things.

Asian: They a hard working people who take very little place in society, regardless of the past. If they cause trouble, we don't hear often about it, and if there is racism toward them, we almost never hear about it.

People accusing others of media child = haha. The media often says every side of every story, you just have to look for it, and also, media is the only way to have some sort of unprejudiced image of a whole nation, as you cannot know everyone.

At 6/13/03 01:43 PM, mysecondstar wrote: poxpower you are basing all your assertions on assumptions. you are the ultimate media child. you get fed everything the media is telling you and digesting it as truth.

thank for that insult. you obviously know enough about me to make quick assumptions that are true like this one.

i've said it before and i will say it again. to understand racism is to become a victim of it yourself. quite frankly you are taking your truth against the experience of a black man and an asian man, namely DarkBlueFlame and myself. i am more than willing to share my experiences with you but you keep playing your media trump card time and time again. perhaps a different approach into the matter. perhaps asking a black and an asian man what they feel to paint a better picture for yourself and for the real world.

So, I understand that because of your skin color you know more about the matter of racism applied to a whole ethic group than I do? Or because someone was racist towards you at one point, you know it all and the opinion of all the others are pointless and unfounded? It seems to me like you are the one generalising here, not me. You are 2 people, and I would be an idiot to base my jugement of a whole race of people on the experience of two people.

No, I have not replied to the other arguments by DBF because we obviously are going in circles, so I am doing this step by step to see where we agree and where we disagree.
So far, we agree that the black people ( again not the majority blablabla) have a reputation for being "loud" or perhps, more outspoken that average. Now, onwards to the next step.

At 6/13/03 02:42 PM, poxpower wrote: thank for that insult. you obviously know enough about me to make quick assumptions that are true like this one.

i reply based on what you write. if you believe it is unjust then i suggest you take steps to prove me wrong. until then i will continue to reply based on what you write.

So, I understand that because of your skin color you know more about the matter of racism applied to a whole ethic group than I do? Or because someone was racist towards you at one point, you know it all and the opinion of all the others are pointless and unfounded? It seems to me like you are the one generalising here, not me. You are 2 people, and I would be an idiot to base my jugement of a whole race of people on the experience of two people.

two is better than the zero you know right now. every journey begins with the first step. it would be unwise not to pursue that first step into further enlightenment of human society.

At 6/13/03 03:28 PM, mysecondstar wrote:
i reply based on what you write. if you believe it is unjust then i suggest you take steps to prove me wrong. until then i will continue to reply based on what you write.

Really, then why don't you follow your words and prove ME wrong before insulting me. You haven't proven a thing so fart except that you're quick to make assumptions about people.

two is better than the zero you know right now. every journey begins with the first step. it would be unwise not to pursue that first step into further enlightenment of human society.

Haha whatever. You're not confusius you know, and maybe you should try to "enlighten" people instead of quoting yourself. Witty quotes prove nothin :p
So, ho ahead, enlighten me, because so far, you argument has been "I'm asian, and he's black, so we knoe better and you are wrong and a victim of prejudice". Which sounds pretty racist to me actually.

And I'm still talking about a minor part of the black and asian community here, and maybe you do fall in the asian catagory ( i.e. hard working quiet people) but I'm sure DBF doesn't fall into the black minority ( i.e. loud and/or prone ro crime because of economic BG).

Anyway you two when are we gonna get back to the discussion? Because i liked the discussion we were having before you too decided to start taking things personally.

At 6/13/03 08:58 PM, DarkBlueFlame wrote: Anyway you two when are we gonna get back to the discussion? Because i liked the discussion we were having before you too decided to start taking things personally.

Hehe don't worry, that last "personnal" post of mine is the last I'll ever adress to someone who makes it personal. For the rest, I shall put the ignore cap on :)

So, read the post above my last one (...) and let's continue on from there, and leave everything that doesn't come from you out of you reply :)

*cough* hum.. carry on...

At 6/13/03 11:47 AM, Judge_Dredd wrote: yes sterotyping is the problem - but year by year the races continue mixing in the great meltingpot called Human Life.

..we need to reduce religeous and economic imbalance while promoting ethnic mixing.

** gets off soapbox **

That used to be how it was in America, the so-called "melting pot" where many different ethnicities and nationalities merged, but now "multiculturalism" is the official buzz-word of the left and they're pressing it into every area they can. However, it doesn't create diversity as advertised, it just divides people by making them be categorized as members of a particular group.

i am reminded of the time my cousin, his father, and my other uncle, who is white. my cousin and his father were discussing growing up in America as Koreans. my uncle came into the conversation and putting in his two cents about being made fun of for being fat as a child. it started getting a little heated as he likened his weight to being different from everybody around you. he just couldn't understand that you can do something about weird albeit not very easily where as you can't change smaller almond shaped eyes, dark hair, and a slight yellow tint to the skin. the man was so stuck on his idea of discrimination that my cousin left from his father's house, in Garden Grove, Ca., which is in SoCal, to San Francisco because of my uncle's stubbornness. i can't blame the man though. he never knew and never will.

At 6/15/03 07:29 PM, mysecondstar wrote: he never knew and never will.

At least until he moves to Korea.

At 6/15/03 08:03 PM, TheShrike wrote:

At 6/15/03 07:29 PM, mysecondstar wrote: he never knew and never will.

At least until he moves to Korea.

absolutely. although i would imagine him getting a little better treatment than most people anyway. he's just your average 6'3" 250 lbs. white man. heh heh.

then again, thousands of people tried to storm the US embassy yesterday in Seoul. it was very anti-American and pro-North Korean. i'm not to certain about the pro-North Korean, but i know i'm still pissed that those service men killed two middle school girls and got off with a slap on the wrist.

9/10/09 Wrote by dabomb1945:

Dabomb says that what makes a person uglier than what he looks, it is what a person says. Even worse you can't even understand what the hell they are saying. Personally, even though black people looks bad i have beef with them cuz they are defiantly strong. Asian attitudes are passive and farely weak, making them incompetent to fight. My suggestions" If u know kung fu, why not use it"?

At 6/8/03 09:17 PM, poxpower wrote: Am I just a victim of tv stereotypes here,

Yes.

At 6/11/03 01:08 AM, poxpower wrote: I'm not talking about "that asian guy you know" or "ww2 nutjobs". I mean, for 100's of year, we hear mostly of racism towards black people. I mean, there where some chinese slaves who built some railroads and stuff ( right...) Never heard once about them complaining white people where "racist". Just abusive.

Well, most racists that I know don't have any problem with Asians, because they see them as being productive and not whiny about racism. But I think that black people whining about racism is just a stereotype. I've never met a black person that whines obnoxiously about how much racism there is, and I've never met an Asian person that does that.

But I'm really more talking about the context in the last 40-50 years, you know, ever since Mr. Luther King Jr changed the black communitie's lives. But I still hear a lot about racism, and black being treated badly and blabla, and I'M really starting to wonder if:

I don't hear that very much, to be honest.

1. It's because black people whine louder
2. It's because black people ARE more prone to criminal acts and violences and loudness and taking up space

Not too long ago, blacks were treated quite poorly, and they're still poorer on average than the rest of the population.

as opposed to asians who:
1. Are quit and don't cause a ruckus whenever they are contraried
2. don't often play the "racism" card

A lot of Asians enter the United States to study, and are treated quite well. Also the racist stereotypes related to Asians are generally positive (smart, studious, cooperative).

Outside of Affirmative Action, I don't think that Asians have too much worth complaining about.

The reason asians are "quieter" as you say, (they aren't all btw there are asian gangsters and whatnot out there and they def talk about being descriminated against to people who know them) is because they have a continuous transition from their hame countries to this one. In the specail case of blacks, they were taken here and cut off forcefully from their native culture, so if some blacks seem like jerks it's because they learned it from whites.

just finishing my thought. As far as I've encountered asian families and culture it has seemed by and large to be more controlled than western society, which accounts for more ease of coexistance.

I know more Asians who hate black people than white people. A few of those Asians won't even vote for Obama because he's black. Asians like the Chinese, North Korean, Japanese and Indian are the most arrogant, racist people. Just visit these countries to find out what I mean.

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ok so I live in nova scotia and we have a significant black community, and at my school we have a african guidence counciler. Which I think is preety fuckin ridiculous , now dont get me wrong the african guidence consuler is probaly the niceist person in the whole school, however im thinking that this is the kinda thing we should be avoiding, all were doing is encouraging segrigation in our school .

those are my thoughts anyways anyone else?'