rascism towards the asian people

[poxpower]

Seriously, why is it that when you think about the word "racist" you never think about a chinese person being discriminated by a white guy. Could it POSSIBLY be that black people might do something that asian people don't? Or vice-versa?
I think the reason why asian people never got discriminated as much as black people, and even today, is because they are quiet and don't take more space than they should. Like, never heard of an Asian raper, and only people like Eddy Murphy and Martin Lawrence are incredibely loud-mouthed and annoying. It's just a feeling I get from some black people, you know that you see in some movies and on tv and on the streets, always shouting away at something.
Asian don't do that. They're much quieter.

Am I even slightly right here? Asian people never speak of rasism to defend themselves, as in "you damn racist blablalbla" while black people seem to always say that.

Am I just a victim of tv stereotypes here, or are black people truly louder than asians, thus contributing to more hate towards them than towards the asian, and that hate of course not being related to color.

[mrpopenfresh]

I dont know about the loud factor, but what you just said is something you dislike about a certain race. I could say that I dislike(I am NOT a racist) asians because they are small and are a nuisance.(please do not label me as a racist, its just an example)

Basically, you can hate a race for pretty much anything.

[poxpower]

At 6/8/03 09:34 PM, mrpopenfresh wrote:
Basically, you can hate a race for pretty much anything.

Not what I personaly dislike, but my theory on why most racist people seem to be racist toward black people. Never heard about someone being racist to a white or Asian person.
And another thing, does anyone else see that whenever there's a movie with a blacl and white guy as heroes, the black one ALWAYS has to make the other one look racist, and the white guy is like "what? what are yo talking about liar!".

[Jlop985]

I think it is because stereotypically Asians are regarded as the "model minority."

[dudeitsallama]

At 6/8/03 09:42 PM, poxpower wrote:
Not what I personaly dislike, but my theory on why most racist people seem to be racist toward black people. Never heard about someone being racist to a white or Asian person.
And another thing, does anyone else see that whenever there's a movie with a blacl and white guy as heroes, the black one ALWAYS has to make the other one look racist, and the white guy is like "what? what are yo talking about liar!".

What do you mean you never heard about someone being racist to a white person? Lots (NOT ALL) of minorities are racist against white people because they think we're all racists.

The reason that there isn't a lot of racism towards Asians is because there aren't any stupid, unfounded asian stereotypes that are all that negative like those for other races. Let's look at these stereotypes. White people are greedy bigots with no rythm. Black people are stupid crack dealers. Mexicans are lazy car jackers. Arabs are terrorists. And Asians are...what?...bad drivers who are really good at math. Even the biggest racists can't find anything bad to say about Asians so what's there to be racist about?

But there's still hope. If the US goes to war against North Korea, the crazy racists might get something to work with. Then Asian Americans will be descriminated against just as much as anyone else.

[BWS]

At 6/8/03 09:17 PM, poxpower wrote:

Am I even slightly right here? Asian people never speak of rasism to defend themselves, as in "you damn racist blablalbla" while black people seem to always say that.

I agree with you 100%. I go to UofM and there are a good number of asian's there. They are the type of people, for the most part, that generally will not draw attention to themselves by loud-mouthing, or other behavior that is similar. They tend to withdraw from matters like that.

Am I just a victim of tv stereotypes here, or are black people truly louder than asians, thus contributing to more hate towards them than towards the asian, and that hate of course not being related to color.

I think that your right about this one too. It seems that blacks generate "unwanted"(racist) comments to themseves willingly. They want to play the "racist card" all to often, and I feel that they need to stop and consider what they say before saying it; this isnt an overall statement, but it holds true for a lot of them.

[poxpower]

At 6/9/03 12:10 AM, dudeitsallama wrote:
The reason that there isn't a lot of racism towards Asians is because there aren't any stupid, unfounded asian stereotypes that are all that negative like those for other races.

How come every stereotype abot everything is untrue and unfounded? All those stereotypes have a founding base, it's just that some people are generalizing, but let me tell you that I WOULD feel cautions around 2 black guys in an alley of New York at night, more than I would be of a white person, simply cause, the crimes rate seems to suggest black NYers commit more criminal acts. And I wouldn't let some 30 years-old arab guy go trough an aiport without searching hi first, because I KNOW that most terrorist look like that. That's why I would search, not because he's arab, bt because he might be a terrorist. And mexican people have a harsh life, so they often resort to a crime life, so I guess I would be cautious in some slums around México.

But there's still hope. If the US goes to war against North Korea, the crazy racists might get something to work with. Then Asian Americans will be descriminated against just as much as anyone else.

Yeah, that's likely. Liek during WW2. But see how quickly those faded after the war, and how black people still whine about racism all the time, even today.

[Lyddiechu]

even tho i am usually not ms. politically correct, this post made me cringe. saying asians are the model minority is just as bad as calling all black people filthy poor robbers. its all just the same (equally bad) stereotyping when you get down to the nitty gritty.

there are asian rappers, there are in your face asians. im assuming the majority of people here on newgrounds are white males in their 20s, so you guys really dont know from discrimination. maybe people hate blacks more because their skin is darker, or they like to loudly stand up for their culture, or maybe just because since they arent (in general, this is a stereotype guys) as "submissive" as asians white people are scared shitless of them. you never hear anyone being scared of walking through an asian ghetto, do you. whites are still scared of blacks.. hell if i were black id be freaking pissed. my relatives may be discriminated against as jews but we freakin came to this country willingly unlike the ancestors of black americans. no one is scared of me tho since im as white as the rest of you. if i were black and did the exact same things i do now it would be a different story.

[RoboTripper]

I'm against Asians because they always hog the DDR machine.

[bumcheekcity]

You know, possibly you're right. In Britain, Black children do the worst in school, white children come about average and Asians do the best. This is in a predominately White country.

Also, there are large groups of Black Teenagers (this is in my little community, not England) that give blacks a bad name. They hyave formed gangs and go around mugging old ladies and doing nothing else for a living.

Mind you, asian people are discriminatd against, although not as much as blacks.

[poxpower]

At 6/9/03 01:24 AM, bumcheekycity wrote:
Mind you, asian people are discriminatd against, although not as much as blacks.

Yeah. I think we can almost make it a fact now. Asian people are generally less loud and better workers than black people. I don't know if this also aplies in their country of origin though. Well, it just seems to me that an "asian" thug is waaaaaaay rarer (...) than a black thug. And that's anywhere on Earth where both are a minority.
And I also think that tha black people are louder than asian, and that has nothing to do with being submissive or not, they just whine and shout more.

Of course, don't take that as an absolute rule that applies to the majority of both, but I thin that's the reason why black people get more "racism" aimed towards them, not because they're black. But that's probably a minority that gives the majority a bad name....
like Martin Lawrence..... I saw National security 2 days ago, and he speaks OF NOTHING else than how people are being racist towards him, and you clearly see that when he's on the street, he ABNOXIOUX and loud and ill-manered. I don't think that's too far from the truth in many case, probably more in the US than in Canada, as our black community (at least outside of major citie, like montreal, where they cause lots of trouble with their gangs) are pretty nice.

[mysecondstar]

i am a Korean-American. i was born and raised in Korea and came to America in 1988. i went to a fairly affluent grammar school in Chicago for first and second grade. my family was not affluent by any means but we lived comfortably. by affluent i mean people that lived on the Gold Coast of Chicago right off the lake and all the resources necessary to send their child to an expensive school. my parents lived with my aunt and had nothing to worry about except my schooling. so by any strectch of the imagination these are very well rounded kids.

but i was still laughed at and made fun of for how i looked. the more interesting thing was i wasn't the only Asian person in my first or second grade class. there was a Chinese and a Japanese girl in my class. but they got nothing. perhaps it's because they were able to speak English flawlessly.

i grew up as a recluse for years until i was in middle school. then i finally started to talk and warm up to people. i had my first girlfriend. she was white. but i was still treated a little differently. it didn't feel right. i affirmed my feelings when my girlfriend broke up with me saying that i was too different.

i went through highschool and finally met people just like me. i related to other people. i understood them. they had the same experiences that i had. black, white, it didn't matter. we were different.

everyone is discriminated against one way or another if you aren't a part of the majority. a white person woudn't get treated as nicely in an Asian neighborhood. a black person wouldn't be treated as nicely in a white neighborhood. and Asian person wouldn't be treated as nicely in a white neighborhood. and the problem is no one can really know unless they've been in that situation. it is almost impossible to gauge prejudice without first being used as that gauge. that is the world we live in: a world or experience. and until everyone can live through that experience we can never really understand each other.

[Miles]

At 6/9/03 01:24 AM, bumcheekycity wrote:
Mind you, asian people are discriminatd against, although not as much as blacks.

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view.php?id=5641 i've seen plenty of raseicsm towards asians. but around here its mostly from the black community. they realy don't like each other. watch the movie and that might be why

[misterx2000]

Reminds of "Romeo Must Die".

Can't we all just get along?

Trust me, I know some Asians that like to make fun of white people and vice-versa. You don't have to be Black or White to be a racist.

[TheShrike]

Asians are discriminated against. I have several friends who will not give you a second chance if you call them chinese.

But that's a bad example. Take for instance the movement of asians of every nationality and background into concentration camps in the states during WW2.

[Commander-K25]

At 6/10/03 08:46 PM, TheShrike wrote: But that's a bad example. Take for instance the movement of asians of every nationality and background into concentration camps in the states during WW2.

A brief wartime measure only. There was no lingering resentment after the war.

[bumcheekcity]

At 6/10/03 10:18 AM, misterx2000 wrote: Reminds of "Romeo Must Die".

Can't we all just get along?

If we could then this thread wouldn't exist.

[poxpower]

I'm not talking about "that asian guy you know" or "ww2 nutjobs". I mean, for 100's of year, we hear mostly of racism towards black people. I mean, there where some chinese slaves who built some railroads and stuff ( right...) Never heard once about them complaining white people where "racist". Just abusive.

But I'm really more talking about the context in the last 40-50 years, you know, ever since Mr. Luther King Jr changed the black communitie's lives. But I still hear a lot about racism, and black being treated badly and blabla, and I'M really starting to wonder if:

1. It's because black people whine louder
2. It's because black people ARE more prone to criminal acts and violences and loudness and taking up space
as opposed to asians who:
1. Are quit and don't cause a ruckus whenever they are contraried
2. don't often play the "racism" card

of course, don't fall in the trap of thinking that because I said that, I'm thikin EVERY black person is like that and blablabla. But this is politics, so I shouldn't have to say it... just making sure.

[mysecondstar]

if someone speaks ill of you live as though no one will believe it.

that's the basic philosophy most Asian families follow.

i can't speak for African-Americans, however.

[poxpower]

At 6/11/03 01:11 AM, mysecondstar wrote: if someone speaks ill of you live as though no one will believe it.

that's the basic philosophy most Asian families follow.

"thou shall not kill" that's the basic philosophy of most religions.
I don't know about non-religios people, but I'm pretty sure they're as righteous.

[mysecondstar]

At 6/11/03 01:11 AM, mysecondstar wrote: i can't speak for African-Americans, however.

actually now that i think about it that was the African-Americans lived their lives after the Civil War. most of them still follow that premise, but there just happens to be people that are so full of self pity and are more verbose than they have to.

[BWS]

At 6/11/03 01:08 AM, poxpower wrote:

I'M really starting to wonder if:

1. It's because black people whine louder
2. It's because black people ARE more prone to criminal acts and violences and loudness and taking up space
as opposed to asians who:
1. Are quit and don't cause a ruckus whenever they are contraried
2. don't often play the "racism" card

of course, don't fall in the trap of thinking that because I said that, I'm thikin EVERY black person is like that and blablabla. But this is politics, so I shouldn't have to say it... just making sure.

This is how I see it. People have instincts and behaviours that are engrained within them, and the same thing goes for race. When someone of a certain race is found sharing similar traits with the majority of the rest of thier race worldwide, it seems that the generalization cant hold true. Im not say that all blacks are like this, so dont see it that way. Its just that when qualitys are shared amongst a majority, and it is seen all over the world, it a bit more than coincidence.

[poxpower]

At 6/11/03 01:18 AM, BWS wrote: This is how I see it. People have instincts and behaviours that are engrained within them, and the same thing goes for race. When someone of a certain race is found sharing similar traits with the majority of the rest of thier race worldwide, it seems that the generalization cant hold true. Im not say that all blacks are like this, so dont see it that way. Its just that when qualitys are shared amongst a majority, and it is seen all over the world, it a bit more than coincidence.

Exactly what I'm talking about :)
So, what ARE those cultural/racial traits that black people seem to have that asians don't and that make them the "target" of racism...

[mysecondstar]

At 6/11/03 01:36 AM, poxpower wrote: Exactly what I'm talking about :)
So, what ARE those cultural/racial traits that black people seem to have that asians don't and that make them the "target" of racism...

how about 300 years of slavery? i guess that would make me pretty bitter.

[BWS]

At 6/11/03 01:44 AM, mysecondstar wrote:

how about 300 years of slavery? i guess that would make me pretty bitter.

Id be mad as hell too. Thing is, slavery of blacks wasnt worldwide. Also, it was 300 years ago, come on! But I do agree with you, Id be pissed as well; I think I would, Im not sure.

[mysecondstar]

At 6/11/03 01:57 AM, BWS wrote: Id be pissed as well; I think I would, Im not sure.

well, unless you're black you'll never know. same goes for racism against any kind of people.

[poxpower]

At 6/11/03 01:44 AM, mysecondstar wrote:

At 6/11/03 01:36 AM, poxpower wrote:

how about 300 years of slavery? i guess that would make me pretty bitter.

All those people are loooooooooong dead. What's done is done, and there's nothing you can change, and making the "white" people pay for it now if unfair and will cause more problems and more racism. Hey, I'm Canadian of french ancestry, I guess I'll have to start hating the englo-canadians then, since they won a war against us 300 years ago! Hey, I might even have some greek blood that would make me have to hate some other random people and so on and so on.

I'm talking GENETICS here. Like, are black people generally more prone to whining than Asian people. Just answer that.

[TheShrike]

At 6/11/03 01:11 AM, mysecondstar wrote: if someone speaks ill of you live as though no one will believe it.

That's gotta be the smartest damn thing I've heard all day.

mysecondstar gets a cookie.

I guess this is why I admire asian culture so much. That and the fact that they had a very civilized culture back when my ancestors were trying to figure out how to make fire.

[TheShrike]

At 6/11/03 01:16 AM, poxpower wrote: "thou shall not kill" that's the basic philosophy of most religions.

Hmph... and so what do the religous do? They kill each other over such a simple concept as god.